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Is the Iphone 6 really "2012 technology"?
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Lol..the iPhone fanboy's version just seems crude and immature compared to the Android fanboy's version of the comparison.
On the topic: It's 2012 + 2014 spec, but the iPhone utilizes its cards to the fullest potential. But honestly, it's not about it's inside. It's the total experience and the illusion of speed/peformance. That is where Apple excels.
You forgot the /s
The entire opening keynote for any iPhone/iPad/OS X announcement starts with numbers, they compare sales, percentages of people on the latest OS, etc. When they talk about the product, they talk about how many times faster the GPU and CPU performance is, they talk up their processor being 64 bit, they even tell you how many transistors are in their CPU for some reason (yet leave out way more important info like RAM and battery capacity).
Not really. Google Pay never took off back then and it is less secure. The jury is still out on Apple Pay, but it looks good so far in regard to execution, adoption, etc. Google Pay benefits from Apple Pay's success.
The point is that people were fine enough with what Apple offered in 2012 to buy iPhone instead of any Android device. And when Apple adds something new, they don't usually (though sometimes they flub up) add it until it's refined.
Slapping on features "just because" is a bad idea. Android OS and Android devices are both pretty fond of this. If it works for them, fine. It won't stop people from preferring the way Apple chooses to develop their products, though.
If you ignore Samsung, Android devices do not have features 'just because'. My point is that features such as double tap to wake and wireless charging, are features that are regarded, by iPhone users, as gimmicky and useless - they attempt to justify why they shouldn't have them, saying it increases the price and size of the phone. However, once Apple uses them, they become excellent features (as I said, similar to a big screen and high pixel density).
I am not arguing that iPhones are terrible however, as many others have said, they lack many features that smartphones are known for in 2014, performance not being one of them (despite the seemingly lacking processor).
The Note 4 is horrible, just like the S5/S4 and all other Samsung phones.
Only nerds will say the Note 4 is better just because of specs, yet nobody else cares about it. In real world usage the iphone 6 is much simpler and better.
It's hard to ignore Samsung when they're the key Android player.
I'm fine with Droid phones having whatever features they want. If Apple decides to add a feature similar to a Droid feature that was half baked last year and they do a better job executing it? I'll give Apple credit. I'd do the same for Droid.
Touch ID is superior on Apple devices. It just is. Adding it first isn't as important as adding it well.
I don't think specs is what makes the Note 4 better, I think having a dedicated user accessible filesystem, quick setting for location services, SwipePad, custom launchers, live wallpapers, as many icons as I want in the dock, as many icons or grid arrangements I want in the app drawer, back button, haptic feedback, native Google apps, manual quality selection on YouTube over cellular data, 4K video recording[/URL], SD expansion, replaceable battery, more RAM than I need, AMOLED screen, multitasking........
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They never speak about frequencies.....
If they say "GPU is 2X faster" they are giving an idea about real life experience, not a number to be compared with other products like many Android manufacturer do (to differentiate themself from otherwise identical meh products).
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No sarcasm intended
You just examplified my point, 90% of these features are not required by the average user, only geeks/nerds care about it.
Back button, haptic feedback, and UI modifications are also mostly personal taste. I've switched from Android and I don't miss that anymore, iOS's simplicity made me realize how a lot of gimmicks in Touchwiz are just pointless, felt like bloatware made by samsung.
Native Google Apps, well thats also matter of taste, but I think some google apps on iOS are much better than some on Android like the Gmail app for iOS which I think is more fluid than the android version.
SD expansion most people dont care, In my circle of friends most of them use Android phones and very few bothered to use an SD card. Unless you are data hungry you won't care about it.
4K video recording, thats not something great unless you rely heavily on Video recording. the majority of people wont care about it. Most people dont even know what 1080p is... This is just for geeks or people that has some knowledge on video editing IMO
Replaceabe battery, thats personal taste. Some people love it, others don't care. its very convenient for the heavy user. I dont miss that feature very much because i find my iphone 6 tremendously power efficient, 1800 mAh that can last for 5-6 hours on very heavy usage, or surpass more than 10 hours with light usage. My old Galaxy S4 had an 2600 mAh battery and it couldn't last as long as my 6.
RAM, other thing only geeks and nerds care about. The vast majority of users dont even know what RAM is... So its pretty pointless for common users... I dont see that much difference between 3GB of Ram on the note 4 versus 1GB on my 6. iOS does an fantastic job on memory optimization, everything is very fluid when I use this phone. You may say "oh but look at that constant safari tab refreshing" yeah it would be better If it didnt happen, but for me it only takes less than a second or so to reload, so it doesn't botter me that much.
AMOLED screen, again, only geeks and nerds will notice any difference. I dont care much about it, since my previous S4 sucked so bad at brightness levels, I find the 6's screen very useful on this aspect. And on the colors/contrast stuff I also dont care about it, I dont use my 6 for viewing movies and stuff, thats why I have an HDTV for.
You just examplified my point, 90% of these features are not required by the average user, only geeks/nerds care about it.
Back button, haptic feedback, and UI modifications are also mostly personal taste. I've switched from Android and I don't miss that anymore, iOS's simplicity made me realize how a lot of gimmicks in Touchwiz are just pointless, felt like bloatware made by samsung.
Native Google Apps, well thats also matter of taste, but I think some google apps on iOS are much better than some on Android like the Gmail app for iOS which I think is more fluid than the android version.
SD expansion most people dont care, In my circle of friends most of them use Android phones and very few bothered to use an SD card. Unless you are data hungry you won't care about it.
4K video recording, thats not something great unless you rely heavily on Video recording. the majority of people wont care about it. Most people dont even know what 1080p is... This is just for geeks or people that has some knowledge on video editing IMO
Replaceabe battery, thats personal taste. Some people love it, others don't care. its very convenient for the heavy user. I dont miss that feature very much because i find my iphone 6 tremendously power efficient, 1800 mAh that can last for 5-6 hours on very heavy usage, or surpass more than 10 hours with light usage. My old Galaxy S4 had an 2600 mAh battery and it couldn't last as long as my 6.
RAM, other thing only geeks and nerds care about. The vast majority of users dont even know what RAM is... So its pretty pointless for common users... I dont see that much difference between 3GB of Ram on the note 4 versus 1GB on my 6. iOS does an fantastic job on memory optimization, everything is very fluid when I use this phone. You may say "oh but look at that constant safari tab refreshing" yeah it would be better If it didnt happen, but for me it only takes less than a second or so to reload, so it doesn't botter me that much.
AMOLED screen, again, only geeks and nerds will notice any difference. I dont care much about it, since my previous S4 sucked so bad at brightness levels, I find the 6's screen very useful on this aspect. And on the colors/contrast stuff I also dont care about it, I dont use my 6 for viewing movies and stuff, thats why I have an HDTV for.
All good points, especially coming from someone with experience using it... I happen to like touchwiz and the Note 4. Peace!
Did you not read the rest of my post? They don't talk numbers where Android beats them, they don't talk RAM because 1GB is low, their processing speed is much lower than Android, and their batteries are smaller. No, I'm not saying android is better, but if they went out and said they have a 1.4GHz dual core, customers will think it's crap compared to the 2.5GHz quad core on Android.
Apple just gives out useless numbers, saying their processor has 3 billion transistors and is 64 bit. They also tell you the size micron in their cameras and the aperture. Things your average customer has no clue about.
Apple does give out number and specs.
Lol.... Since when "native Google apps" are an advantage, besides for Google lovers ?
Not to speak about amoled PENTILE matrix displays ......where Samsung is lying about real ppi and customers are eating that.
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Numbers for sure are part of the marketing game.
But numbers intended as an improved customer experience are quite different than saying "our phone has an eight core 3 GHz CPU with 64 Gb of ram".
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Anyone who can understand architecture knows that 3 billion transistors and 64 bit CPU are by far more important than a four core 2.5 GHz CPU.....
I'm not interested in most of those features. Maybe 2 or 3 pique my interest. If a phone had them, I may or may not use them.
This is why the Note 4 is better FOR YOU.
Make sense?
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Are you serious? You think the average consumer knows how cpu architecture works? What are they basing those 3 billion transistors against? No other company advertises that, it's pretty useless information for a consumer.
My whole point was that Apple does talk numbers and specs.
TLDR but the only thing I find inexcusable is the constant reloading of web pages, that just shouldn't happen to a phone in 2014/2015. No idea if it's the RAM or something else, but IMO it's something I'd expect out of the iPhone 2 or something.
I can't remember the last time I saw a webpage reload on my 1 Gb iDevices, since iOS 7.1 installation.
They focus on numbers that mean things to people and developers. Who cares what the clock speed is when Apple's CPU has a superior design that can process 6 instructions per cycle and thus outperform a quad-core running at a higher clock speed?
Samsung et al throw out spec sheets. Apple puts their specs in terms that people understand. If you say the processor is twice as fast as last year's or uses 25% less power, people can understand that. The significance about 3 billion transistors may be lost on a non-technical person, but it sounds like a lot and when you say it is triple the previous version it does make it sound like a lot more than a small revision.
There are of course, many responses...
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Besides its crude bias, that chart is also factually incorrect.
The Nexus 5 does have a low power coprocessor for handling motion, like the Apple M8.
Hmm, maybe I have mine configured incorrectly. Every time I go back to a different tab it reloads. Am I missing a setting somewhere?
There is no special settings....
The only "precautions" I'm taking are:
- Not keep many apps in background while web surfing (I chose all of them with the multitasking switch)
- Restart the device once in a while (usually every 2-3 charges)
Other than that, I prefer to use Mercury over Safari.
I can keep multiple tabs open without any refresh.
I see, I'm not used to babysitting like that, closing apps and such but it's good advice. I'll take a peek at that Mercury browser as well.