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Obviously it's true.The fact that all iPhones get slower over time with no option to roll back says it all
 
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Is that why these so called exclusive features are available to old devices through jailbreaks
Are jailbreaks supported? You can't do what the hardware won't let you or the hardware requirements has grown beyond the capacity of the old device to handle it. Or the processing power of the 32bit chips cannot handle apple's correct implementation of a feature in 64 bits.
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Obviously it's true.The fact that all iPhones get slower over time with no option to roll back says it all
Of course it's true. My old XT in a closet can handle a weather simulation just fine. The reason there isn't any software to do that function, is because of planned obsolescence. Right?
 
Obviously it's true.The fact that all iPhones get slower over time with no option to roll back says it all
You realize that thst doesn't prove a conspiracy of any sort, right? That would be a rhetorical question.
 
Seems your phone has this problem i still have my previous iPhone 5s and iPhone 6 plus both bought on launch day and they are working just fine till date
 
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my iPhone 6 Plus has been a great phone for the last 2 years. But for the last month it has started to become very Buggy and having forced restarts.

Is their any truth to apple and the planned obsolensce ?
Apple is far more clever than most of its cult like supporters. Convinced there's no such thing as planned obsolescence, they would not be able to identify it anyway.

Apple got to be big and uber wealthy precisely because of the implementation of Planned Obsolescence.
 
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Are jailbreaks supported? You can't do what the hardware won't let you or the hardware requirements has grown beyond the capacity of the old device to handle it. Or the processing power of the 32bit chips cannot handle apple's correct implementation of a feature in 64 bits.
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Of course it's true. My old XT in a closet can handle a weather simulation just fine. The reason there isn't any software to do that function, is because of planned obsolescence. Right?

Stop with all of Apple BS excuses.Hey Siri was successfully implemented through jailbreaks on iPhone 5s without any negative consequences.3D Touch via swipes is implemented on jailbreaks

The problem isnt the hardware.The fact is if these features made their way to older devices no one would buy the newer devices

You realize that thst doesn't prove a conspiracy of any sort, right? That would be a rhetorical question.

If there isnt a conspiracy why does Android on a Nexus not get slower through updates while iOS always does?

Apple is far more clever than most of its cult like supporters. Convinced there's no such thing as planned obsolescence, they would not be able to identify it anyway.

Apple got to be big and uber wealthy precisely because of the implementation of Planned Obsolescence.

Preach.Some fans have their head so deep buried in the sand,they wouldnt recognize planned obsolesence if it smacked them in the face
 
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Stop with all of Apple BS excuses.Hey Siri was successfully implemented through jailbreaks on iPhone 5s without any negative consequences.3D Touch via swipes is implemented on jailbreaks

The problem isnt the hardware.The fact is if these features made their way to older devices no one would buy the newer devices



If there isnt a conspiracy why does Android on a Nexus not get slower through updates while iOS always does?



Preach.Some fans have their head so deep buried in the sand,they wouldnt recognize planned obsolesence if it smacked them in the face
Android doesn't change as much? The Nexus has more powerful hardware? Perhaps there are various people who are seeing the Nexus get slower while others don't, like it's the case with iOS?

I mean once again, that's not how proofs work. Just saying something repeatedly and finding things that fit with that doesn't make things so. People also see bunnies in the clouds often enough, I guess therefore there must be bunnies in the sky.
 
By definition Obsolete is something no longer in use or no longer useful, and Apple (nor any company) cannot plan that, the fact that the system slows down has more to do with
1 hardware limitation
2 features that weren't possible when the "obsolete system" was released
And still the "slowiness" is sujbective (by that I mean someone feels it is bearable and other feels it is unbereable), and it would be hard to plan a : "let's make it slower but bearable to someone and not to others"

Hardware fail, code is surely optimized more for the newer devices, but that has little to do with something planned from the start!
 
Android doesn't change as much? The Nexus has more powerful hardware? Perhaps there are various people who are seeing the Nexus get slower while others don't, like it's the case with iOS?

I mean once again, that's not how proofs work. Just saying something repeatedly and finding things that fit with that doesn't make things so. People also see bunnies in the clouds often enough, I guess therefore there must be bunnies in the sky.


Samsung Galaxy S6 on Marshmallow is FASTER than on Android Lollipop.Wish the same could be said for iPhone
 
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I don't think it's a thing. I think iOS is still maturing and it makes sense to take advantage of whatever advancements there are in the mobile tech space each year, making the older phones work harder.

If you remember the 90s and early 2000s it was like this on PCs too.

What I don't appreciate is being alerted to update every single damn day, and if you do and it makes your phone run like thick molasses there's no way of going back. Apple's one way street of upgrades is the problem. Great for security, not so great for older model phone users.
 
3D Touch via swipes is implemented on jailbreaks

The problem isnt the hardware.The fact is if these features made their way to older devices no one would buy the newer devices
3D touch is a Hardware thing, the swipe is a walkaround, but it is NOT force touch.....it is like saying that with a ramp my car can jump.....when in reality it is not

The car that can really jump is the one with the suspension that are made for it.


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I dunno how / why I came up with this analogy..... still you can mimic it but without the proper hardware it is not functioning the same way, or are you saying that you and a couple of friends raising the front of the car it is the same thing?

I wouldn't buy / use a device with a half baked port of something that is supposed to work in a different way just to mimic it and pretend to have the latest tech !!!!! (also consistency has a part, you do a thing on one device in a way, but on another from the same company ina completely different way??' talking about userfriendliness!!! you'd have to re-learn how to use the device with each upgrade!!!)
 
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3D touch is a Hardware thing, the swipe is a walkaround, but it is NOT force touch.....it is like saying that with a ramp my car can jump.....when in reality it is not

The car that can really jump is the one with the suspension that are made for it.


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I dunno how / why I came up with this analogy..... still you can mimic it but without the proper hardware it is not functioning the same way, or are you saying that you and a couple of friends raising the front of the car it is the same thing?

I wouldn't buy / use a device with a half baked port of something that is supposed to work in a different way just to mimic it and pretend to have the latest tech !!!!! (also consistency has a part, you do a thing on one device in a way, but on another from the same company ina completely different way??' talking about userfriendliness!!! you'd have to re-learn how to use the device with each upgrade!!!)
Actually that limited form of 3D Touch is something Android has been using in that limited fashion for a long time.Long Press on Android brings up a 3D Touch menu in apps on budget phones for years . On Samsung Galaxy S7 long press on WiFi in NC brings up WiFi just like how 3DT would work

I would take a limited implementation over nothing as then what was the point of a version number change apart from bug and security fixes and app updates?

In fact I can prove this on iOS itself .In very early betas of iOS 9 on an iPhone 6 you could move the tracker around just like on iPad but Apple removed the feature as it made the 3DT keyboard tracker on 6s slightly less important
 
Actually that limited form of 3D Touch is something Android has been using in that limited fashion for a long time.Long Press on Android brings up a 3D Touch menu in apps on budget phones for years . On Samsung Galaxy S7 long press on WiFi in NC brings up WiFi just like how 3DT would work

I would take a limited implementation over nothing as then what was the point of a version number change apart from bug and security fixes and app updates?

In fact I can prove this on iOS itself .In very early betas of iOS 9 on an iPhone 6 you could move the tracker around just like on iPad but Apple removed the feature as it made the 3DT keyboard tracker on 6s slightly less important
This means they thinkered with the idea and removed because it was a poor implementation, making my point stronger.
1 Keeping how it works constant (and not "in iphone 6 it works like this and in 6S like that")
2 Implement something ONLY if it is a good decision and not because of complainers!

You keep compairing apples and oranges, long touch and 3d touch are 2 different implementation, one software and the other hardware, similar but not the same! And as you said yourself LIMITED, or to cite myself "half baked", and no I do not want that!

If you don't understand versions, I would kindly ask you to read the release info ;)

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I can long press all I want on my AppleWatch, but unless I put more pressure, it won't do anything, you need HW to do that...and for consistency i want my iPhone either to do the same or not at all, don't need to remember everytime how to use the same function see how it works?
 
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Yes, by using non-removable batteries and also lacking expandable storage for future proofing your storage space. Apple's "Sony timer" is simply a financial strategy for them and for more e-waste.

Too many here are gullible to think these companies actually care about us and they will do no wrong. They don't care and none of them are saints. We are all dollar signs to these false idol, capitalists.

The Sony timer or Sony kill switch is a rumored element of Sony electronic products which causes them to fail soon after their warranty expires.

While it is unknown whether Sony is explicitly adding expiration devices to their hardware, the "Sony Timer" has also been taken to mean that Sony manufactures devices to withstand just enough use for Sony to produce a new line of the device.

At the annual shareholders' meeting held on June 21, 2007 in Japan, Sony president Ryoji Chubachi said that he knew the word "Sony Timer".

Removable Battery Vs Non-Removable Battery

Planned obsolescence = non-removable battery
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-most-m...ch-are-not-replaceable-nowadays-as-of-2015–16

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Reduced pollution – Electronic devices include hazardous chemicals such as lead, nickel, cadmium, mercury and arsenic. Repairing your smart device keeps those toxic chemicals out of the waste stream for a longer period of time.

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Load of hyperbole. All batteries are replaceable, just not by the end user. Samsung seems to have fit right in there as well, though.

And how much of that e-junk listed in those graphics due to people "running out of storage"?
 
Proof of this?Last I checked they were about the same.Maybe iOS 9 was slightly faster
Take a look in various iOS 10 beta threads.

It's interesting how since those iOS 10 beta threads aren't bashing iOS/Apple (unlike iOS 9 threads were), it's probably not a place where various people have been going (again, unlike iOS 9 beta threads where those people were more than happy to participate in the bashing).
 
As for laptops, I can say that my 2012 Macbook still runs better than any Windows laptop from 2012
Maybe if one upgraded to Windows 8 or Windows 10 or if the laptop only had a measly Atom CPU or HDD, there might be issues. I've got computer builds from 2009 (Nehalem) and laptops from 2011 (Sandy Bridge) running Windows 7 that still work just as well as when I first got them (all have SSD).

x86 has had an excess of horsepower for typical daily tasks for a while now. It's why SSDs make for such a noticeable upgrade. Instead of the CPU, the storage has become the bottleneck for most normal tasks. It's only recently that ARM (A9X) could even compete in raw performance. Granted, x86 has much higher power consumption compared to ARM so the latter probably wins at performance/watt.
 
This means they thinkered with the idea and removed because it was a poor implementation, making my point stronger.
1 Keeping how it works constant (and not "in iphone 6 it works like this and in 6S like that")
2 Implement something ONLY if it is a good decision and not because of complainers!

You keep compairing apples and oranges, long touch and 3d touch are 2 different implementation, one software and the other hardware, similar but not the same! And as you said yourself LIMITED, or to cite myself "half baked", and no I do not want that!

If you don't understand versions, I would kindly ask you to read the release info ;)

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I can long press all I want on my AppleWatch, but unless I put more pressure, it won't do anything, you need HW to do that...and for consistency i want my iPhone either to do the same or not at all, don't need to remember everytime how to use the same function see how it works?
What do you mean poor implementation? It worked EXACTLY how it works under the current iPad.I can assure you if a 3D Touch iPad existed,this feature wouldn't have made its way to older devices either
 
Take a look in various iOS 10 beta threads.

It's interesting how since those iOS 10 beta threads aren't bashing iOS/Apple (unlike iOS 9 threads were), it's probably not a place where various people have been going (again, unlike iOS 9 beta threads where those people were more than happy to participate in the bashing).
There aren't many complaints because iOS 10 is a face saver compared to the pile of dog **** iOS 9 which I compare with Windows Vista.iOS 10 is Its Windows 10.iOS 8.4.1 is Windows 7 the best OS ever released in its respective family

However there is zero proof iOS 10 is faster than iOS 9.We are so used to iOS devices slowing down with every update that the fact that there was negligible performance degradation has us dancing for joy
 
iOS 8.4.1 is Windows 7 the best OS ever released in its respective family
I've used iOS 8 and 9 on my iPad 3, 4 and Air and to be honest, I found iOS 8 was much slower (particularly when it comes to Safari page rendering). Heck, there's significant lag on iOS 8 just typing on the iPad 3. iOS 9 on iPad 3 is still laggy but not as bad as iOS 8.

In fairness, the smoothest/fastest UI I've had on iOS is A6(X) + iOS 6. All the versions after that just seemed stuttery/laggy even on latest hardware.
 
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