Half of the people in the biophysics group I'm in uses Macs without any issues regarding app compatibility, so I think you can put your anecdotal evidence to rest.
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Half of the people in the biophysics group I'm in uses Macs without any issues regarding app compatibility, so I think you can put your anecdotal evidence to rest.
I think right now the new MacBooks Pros are the very first MacBook Air that was introduced. It was vastly different than what consumers were used to with a lot of compromises. However, that first generation eventually gave rise to the ever so popular MacBook Air everyone came to know and love. I think Apple is trying to do the same with the new Pros. I do agree that they did blend the prosumer and consumer markets together, but I think it was because people are willing to pay for Apple products so I think hey just simplified the line to increase profits. It's one less product they have to R&D for.
Then is it a fact that the laptop being thin is the SOLE REASON for the battery life? Remember, they can't put in a 100w battery, so even if they make the laptop a foot thick, it wouldn't help.
If it is a rumor that the current design supports a larger battery, and no fact has been made yet; then how can it be a fact that the thinness of the laptop is the reason for a smaller battery? You can't have it both ways. Either the design can support a bigger battery or it can't.
And i said that users are not demanding thinner laptops with less battery. Many users want apple products to stop getting thinner and improving battery life. I doubt i am alone wanting better battery life from idevices, laptops etc
A biophysics study group isn't even anecdotal- it is completely unrelated to the topic of EE workflow.
If the rumors are true, it is not a thinner laptop with less battery. It would be just a thinner laptop. Remember, we can't get better batteries than what we had before due to the 100w limit.
So this topic is actually about the workflow of electrical engineers, which apparently is incompatible with a small subset of niche tools? What are you getting at, exactly?
Again, if the rumors are true, a BETTER battery can work in this thickness of the 2016 Macbook Pro.
OP is asking about coming into mac as an EE. I know a lot about this. Maybe you could start another thread for using macs as a biotech person, or some other topic that you know about.
Then we will discuss the thinness of the laptop being an issue after that has been proven.
The OP mentioned in passing that they have an EE degree as a way of making a joke about stuff always working right. It has nothing to do with the thread topic, and it's pretty clear you were using it as just another opportunity to hate on the 2016 MBP. It's that your so disingenuous about your MO that elicits the replies you get.
Just admit it - you hate and you want everyone else to hate too. It validates your own reasoning for the choices you've made or felt forced by Apple into making.
What we have here is a failure to understand the difference between USB 1/2/3/etc and USB A/B/C/micro/mini/etc.
OP, this misinformed.. no, ignorant BS is the kind of crap that's sullied online forums. Unfortunately, it's normal now.
Totally normal.
With the exception that the new notebook has been changed in more ways than expected, so we're getting the extra backlash. It will be short lived. Keep this in mind:
1) Some critics don't have the machine.
2) Some critics make up stories and even lie about using or returning the machine.
3) Some critics simply repeat items from # 1 & 2.
4) Some critics have valid issues.
The "fans" of these machines have been fairly clear and specific in these discussions. The critics less so, attempting to define what "professional" means and showing obvious ignorance on a variety of tech topics, such as SD vs CF cards.
Sadly 1, 2 & 3 are very damaging to #4, which in turn makes things even harder for everyone else. Beyond that all I can say is that I have a tMBP and I have zero issues with battery or glitches.
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I'll quote one of your earlier posts:
You design USB gadgets for a living and you're mixing up USB-C with USB 2 and 3? What does USB 2 have to do with USB C? You sound like USB-C can't communicate via USB2. You know you're wrong, don't you? Who do you work for? I don't want to buy anything you designed.
Who uses external GPUs anyway?
The laptop I use at work can drop into this big-ass docking station thing that has two extra USB sockets, video out (VGA, maybe?), power, a headphone jack (that doesn't work), and maybe a couple other things that aren't used. The laptop's onboard ports, then, are redundant and become dead weight every time I take it home. WTF do I need a VGA port for at home? Never mind the HDMI and Ethernet and eSATA ports and the SD slot -- it has a phone jack, too, for cryin' out loud.
Know what would be sweet? Plugging in one USB-C cable with a dock/hub to connect everything else at the office. One measly little plug that can do it all. Hell, my work laptop could be replaced by a base-spec MacBook.
I know you can plug in old usb with a different passive cable. I still think it's absurd for all these people to plug in older usb stuff and take up and not use expensive pcie lanes. What I'm trying to say is where is all the fancy stuff that uses usb-c? There isn't any. Apple should have released a whole suite of usb-C stuff but I see nothing exciting.
Give it time. I'm using a USB-C external drive right now on my mid-2012 MBP. It came with two cables -- USB-A-to-C and USB-C-to-C, so it'll be ready for the day I get a new laptop that doesn't have any old ports.
Well living in the present the 2016 is thinner and has a worse battery. If we stick to facts and not rumours , not a good situation in my opinion
The "fact" is that we are still somewhat in the dark on the battery issues. My 13" is just as good as my 2015 15" and maybe a bit better. Given the better screen, that's a win. My friend has 4 of the 15" versions and he's not complaining about battery life, but I don't think he's really tested it much yet. So far he hasn't noticed any difference from his 2014 machines.
Let's wait and see. Right now I'm at 20.4 % with 1 hour & 37 minutes remaining. Pretty good since I've got the screen cranked with BT on and apps running.
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During the 2012 retina MBP people complained alot. I think people are just more in tune with Social media now and they will get on message boards and complain about products they've never even used for themselves. I would use the product for yourself then evaluate if the product is right for you. Apple has a generous return window if you are unhappy.
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If you want to do any kind of web development anything OSX is infinitely better than the alternatives on the market.
Exactly right. Folks don't recall 2012! It was a riot over that release. And yeah, we're in a whole new world of social media 4 years later.
But a big item here is that Apple never revamped a machine to such an extent in one swipe. They changed display, keyboard, sound, build, ports, trackpad and added a touchbar screen with Siri button and Touch ID.
It's just about crazy how much they changed when Apple usually eases into these changes. So we're seeing a LOT of push-back on so many changes, which I can understand.
You just have to wade through the haters and nonsense green-eyes to get to the reality, which is that these are pretty sweet machines for most users.
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