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iPad Pro It is utterly ridiculous that the M5 iPad Pro ships with a 1 meter charging cable.

It's probably down to expected usage scenarios (and maybe Apple penny pinching)

iPhones and iPads are generally (expected to be) used on battery, laptops less so ... people don't want a 2m lead when the device is 20cm from the wall socket that's charging it and they unplug it to use it

those that do want to use it plugged in pay a tenner for a nice 3m braided cable so there's plenty of slack to lay on the sofa
 
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BruiserBear said:
I did not create this thread to express buyers remorse.

I created it to point out how illogical it is that Apple ships all their laptops with the longer cable, but still ships the expensive iPad Pro with the short cable.

Sometimes people complain about things they bought and like, but they still think it could be better.
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The $1200 Galaxy Tab Ultra comes with a 3ft cable too. The Galaxy Book5 comes with a 7ft cable. Almost as if there is some logic to how companies decide which length of cable they include with their devices based on the intended use cases. Good thing there is a massive selection of third party accessories so you can make your device work exactly how you want it too. If anything this just seems like a complaint about having to spend another $20 on a cable after spending $1200 on a tablet.
 
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eddie_ducking said:
It's probably down to expected usage scenarios (and maybe Apple penny pinching)

iPhones and iPads are generally (expected to be) used on battery, laptops less so ... people don't want a 2m lead when the device is 20cm from the wall socket that's charging it and they unplug it to use it

those that do want to use it plugged in pay a tenner for a nice 3m braided cable so there's plenty of slack to lay on the sofa
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I heard that you can buy these things called Velcro straps.

Some companies even include them with their $5 cables. How generous of them!

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BruiserBear said:
My attitude? Who are you kidding?

You replied to me sarcastically asking if 2 meters is universally known as the only correct iPad cable length, while ignoring the obvious point I made about the iPad Pro being sold and marketed as a device comparable to a MacBook, which DOES ship with a 2 meter cable.

You were not responding in good faith.
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I’ve never spoken to you before, you got me confused with someone else.
 
BruiserBear said:
Apple sells 2 meter braided cables exactly like the one I’m suggesting they ship with the iPad Pro, and they’re no thicker than the 1 meter cable……

This is my point here. It seems they intentionally ship the shortest possible cable with iPads and also iPhones in hopes that some people will buy a longer cable from them. With the iPhone you could argue it’s fine, it’s a phone, but an iPad Pro that you sell for more than some laptops, and that you market as a laptop esque device? No, you should be shipping a laptop length cable with that product.
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They don’t sell 2m braided cables, unless you mean the Thunderbolt ones, or MacBook MagSafe ones. Their 2m charging cable (I have one) is thicker and less flexible than the 1m one.
 
BruiserBear said:
Just bought the M5 Pro and I cannot believe they are shipping this thing with a 1 meter USB-C cable when the device costs $1,300. They ship far cheaper MacBook Air’s with a 2 meter charging cable.

If you want to charge this thing and still use it you must be extremely close to an outlet. I should not have to think about this with a device so expensive.
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Do you honesrt expect anyone to think you are a victim? Caveat Emptor. If you think a company has treated you badly, stop giving them your money. You close to buy, and you know exactly what was in the box before you paid for it.
 
I bought some 2m cables. I use their 1m variants, barring my 16 Plus’ 2m Belkin USB-C to USB-A cable (to use the 5w Power Adapter), just because Apple does not sell those.

I have 2m USB-C to USB-C for my USB-C iPads, and 2m Lightning cables for my lightning devices...

I use the 1m cables 99.9% of the time. I actually prefer it as it is now, Apple includes 1m cables and if I want a longer one, I’ll buy it.

But that’s me and I’m not the center of the world. If most people would rather have a longer cable in the box, I’d be fine with that, too.

There has barely been an instance of me using my 16 Plus while charging where I’d say “I appreciate the 2m Belkin cable”. I would’ve been fine with 1m. That said, I have one of each (one Lightning 2m, one USB-C to USB-C 2m, and one USB-C to USB-A 2m) and they’re nice to have for those occasions in which I need them.
 
CalMin said:
Well - you have to remember that corporations essentially exist to serve the shareholders. Now it should follow that if you serve the customers well, then that should also serve the shareholders well. But - let's be clear that in this hierarchy, the shareholder trumps the customer every time.

So - if they make more money packing in a short cable so you have to buy a long one, they will always do that. Unless... you refuse to buy the iPad because of the short cable, or you buy a longer cable from someone else. Vote with your dollars! You have the power!
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I suddenly wish there were a scenario where a company could survive comfortably with only shareholders doubled as customers. Dunno if Apple can make it happen.

About the cable length, the cost difference between 1m and 2m cables is probably negligible. But it does add up when multiplied by millions, which suddenly makes such cost saving worth every penny. Will customers vote with their wallet? Maybe. Enough to sway Apple’s decisions? I highly about it, especially on this cable length issue. I have a mixture of 1m and 2m cables and I use them both.
 
Happy_John said:
Do you honesrt expect anyone to think you are a victim? Caveat Emptor. If you think a company has treated you badly, stop giving them your money. You close to buy, and you know exactly what was in the box before you paid for it.
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To be brutally fair and honest, Apple did not specify the cable length at checkout, as you can see here. So OP does have a point complaining cable being too short when he receives iPad. Yes he definitely should just grab longer cables, but Apple not telling cable length is also misleading.
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Shirasaki said:
To be brutally fair and honest, Apple did not specify the cable length at checkout, as you can see here. So OP does have a point complaining cable being too short when he receives iPad. Yes he definitely should just grab longer cables, but Apple not telling cable length is also misleading. View attachment 2576561
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Um, both you and the op might want to check before postin. These things are started in the product description on the site.
 

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aevan said:
They don’t sell 2m braided cables, unless you mean the Thunderbolt ones, or MacBook MagSafe ones. Their 2m charging cable (I have one) is thicker and less flexible than the 1m one.
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240W USB-C Charge Cable (2 m)

This 2-meter charge cable is made with a woven design — with USB-C connectors on both ends — and is ideal for charging, syncing, and transferring data between USB-C devices. It supports charging of up to 240 watts and transfers data at USB 2 rates. Pair the USB-C Charge Cable with a compatible...
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Happy_John said:
Do you honesrt expect anyone to think you are a victim? Caveat Emptor. If you think a company has treated you badly, stop giving them your money. You close to buy, and you know exactly what was in the box before you paid for it.
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I don’t know where you got the impression I felt I was victim of something here. I said I think it’s ridiculous the iPad Pro ships with a 1 meter cable. I never said I was wronged, or Apple screwed me over, or I don’t like this product.

Are you familiar with the concept of people expressing displeasure with the way a company handles a specific thing or product in their lineup? I pointed out a specific example where Apple treats two products differently, and how it doesn’t make much sense. You could have just ignored this discussion but you just had to offer up this inane take.
 
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Shirasaki said:
To be brutally fair and honest, Apple did not specify the cable length at checkout, as you can see here. So OP does have a point complaining cable being too short when he receives iPad. Yes he definitely should just grab longer cables, but Apple not telling cable length is also misleading. View attachment 2576561
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Happy_John doesn't even make a valid retort against the OP's point. OP made a qualitative argument about user experience of a 1m cable.

Some of the counter arguments are ridiculous and clear deflections.

There's pedantic posts made about the specs and what's listed in the box. Those are obvious attempts to shift the goal posts and avoid engaging the real point. The one about cheap Indian food is even more ridiculous.
 
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BruiserBear said:
Apple sells all of their laptops with 2 meter cables. They sell the iPad Pro for a far higher price than some of those laptops, and yet they ship the iPad with a cable half the length, for no apparent reason.

Instead of asking why I’m asking this question, it seems more obvious to ask why is Apple doing it this way. It makes no sense.
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As a couple other users have said, the difference in cable lengths could be due to the difference in the way the devices are used as well as the difference in the devices themselves. In my opinion that would be the most logical conclusion if it's true that all MacBooks, even the cheapest ones, come with two meter cables, and all iPads and iPhones come with one meter. Remember, even though Apple advertises iPads as possible laptop replacements, they are tablets first. We know this because they don't come packaged with the Magic Keyboard. And I don't think Apple expects most people to use a tablet while plugged in. In contrast I think they do expect many people to use laptops plugged in because people often use them for longer periods and for more power hungry work, and more stationary than a tablet, and because laptops' larger batteries take more time to charge, so they need to be able to work while charging. So the difference in cable lengths makes sense to me.
 
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There is nothing wrong for anybody to desire for Apple to include a longer cable with an expensive item like the OP has mentioned. I have no idea why so many posters in this forum always take Apple's side. It just does not make sense at all. The primary reason for Apple to include the standard short cables is for keeping the item's production and distribution cost as low as possible, nothing else.

I have always purchased longer cables for the iPads, iPhones, and MacBook in my househod, and I bet that a lot of others in this forum do the same. Some of these non-Apple cables that I have purchased include USB-C/Thunderbolt ones that have one of the terminals at a 90-degree angle. I buy these to replace the one provided by Apple with the McBook, or iPad, and so on.
 
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eddie_ducking said:
It's probably down to expected usage scenarios (and maybe Apple penny pinching)

iPhones and iPads are generally (expected to be) used on battery, laptops less so ... people don't want a 2m lead when the device is 20cm from the wall socket that's charging it and they unplug it to use it

those that do want to use it plugged in pay a tenner for a nice 3m braided cable so there's plenty of slack to lay on the sofa
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That's it ;)
 
SalisburySam said:
Nothing snarky, regret you interpreted it that way. I wondered why you thought it should have a 6-meter cable. And I happened to graze by your thread/post at the time so I responded. Sheesh.
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🙄 Snarky and then dismissive 😉 and this is from a non native speaker. Sorry if I interpreted this wrong 😅

Edit to contribute to the conversation:
I would also prefer a longer 2m cable for some devices - or to the extreme - sell it separately and let people pick their favorite length themselves.
 
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