I'd like to use my original iPhone SE forever. It should be up to me upgrading, not to manufacturers.
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Italian Consumer Association Launches Lawsuit Against Apple for Planned Obsolescence
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Class action lawsuits against tobacco companies resulted in perpetual annual payouts to the states of around $9 billion per year, forever. Those lawsuits also played a big part in reducing the tobacco industry to a shell of its former self.
Or maybe.... just maybe... your new shiny operating system with more features is more resource intensive.
And attempts to use API's that are looking for certain hardware not likely to be there in older iPhones?
It may run. But for Apple to ”support” it, gives them legal liability. They have a burden in the Software License as well. At some point, being responsible for the software performance on a half-decade old phone is not something they desire to test or develop for, and risk. If they market that their software performs on your phone, and it instead bricks it - well, there’s another lawsuit.
Name a product that doesn’t get better over time. Even stuff like bedsheets change and improve.
Technology by definition evolves and improves. What are these people expecting?
Technology by definition evolves and improves. What are these people expecting?
If apple doesn't want to waste time in court, they shouldn't do those things.
I never defended Apple. The amount of people in here that have a reading comprehension level below 3rd grade is astounding.
I grabbed the old iPhone 6 that barely functions as a podcast player while lawnmowing & snowblowing and after several attempts have been able to have it register the correct taps within 3-5 seconds as the page shifts around registering them incorrectly, to load this page, reply to the correct post, and type this message. The only way to fix the iPhone 6 was to somehow avoid upgrading it to iOS10 and dodge the endless upgrade nags, because it was crippled by that, and with no way to downgrade back to a useable OS, essentially ruined by its maker.
I don’t know who got compensation in the US, other than the lawyers, but I’m glad Italy is still making a stink over it, even if tangential.
i don't know how is in US, but here in italy even if this altroconsumo wins the class action, that money will be not certainly splitted to the customers.... anyway, even if they want give that money to them, how people can prove they owned an iphone 6/6s in the past?? personally i had 2x 6 and 1x 6s, but of course i dont have their invoices... theres not even a history of old devices in icloud so how can i proof it?? i dont know what's worst, apple or these consumer associations. sincerely i dont care where that money will go...
Because of your stupidity apple does this kinds of practices...
My iPhone 7 was constantly going into battery management, and my daugHters iPhone 8 is permanently switched to power management. Little yellow battery symbol.
both have had heavy use, power management feature has extended the phones’ lives. I think it is great. Once the iPhone 7 got down to 70% it was replaced with an iPhone 12 mini. We will probably replace the iphone 8 battery and get another year or so out of it.
... but in truth the update was designed to protect Apple's reputation with its customers, by disguising how quickly the iPhone 6 series wore out its consumable (and at the time prohibitively expensive to replace) battery.
This has really been beaten to death. What Apple did was a good thing, the issue was communication. The users did not know the battery was causing their phone to slow.
Either way, it was rather shady of Apple to not be forthcoming.
Either way, it was rather shady of Apple to not be forthcoming.
On one hand: Appreciation, depreciation is built into pretty much every country economic laws. These are principles every economy is working with nowadays. By law its planned to make any kind product obsolete over time. (good or bad, you decide.)
On the other side:
It doesn't seem necessary to me personally to make products obsolete after 5 years since the majority is working like in the first day they were being bought.
In a way the quality of modern products is so good, they don't break as fast as they "need" to do or dont need to be replaced as quick as. Furthermore throttling processor to save power is not exactly making something obsolete. Its a common technology of how processors are being used these days.
Its unlikely they are going to win this case. There is maybe a settlement, so they can make some money and keep their face. I doubt their holy mission is to improve customers rights in general.
On the other side:
It doesn't seem necessary to me personally to make products obsolete after 5 years since the majority is working like in the first day they were being bought.
In a way the quality of modern products is so good, they don't break as fast as they "need" to do or dont need to be replaced as quick as. Furthermore throttling processor to save power is not exactly making something obsolete. Its a common technology of how processors are being used these days.
Its unlikely they are going to win this case. There is maybe a settlement, so they can make some money and keep their face. I doubt their holy mission is to improve customers rights in general.
They don't throttle the processor to save power, they throttle the processor to avoid revealing to the user that the phone has permanently worn down the battery faster than the user would consider reasonable, and thus avoid having to replace the battery under warranty.
It has nothing to do with Apple Vs. Google providing operating system software updates.
Back then android phones just shut down. So to me on my then 6s power management plus (free) battery replacement = customer satisfaction.
Its not a secret how batteries work, its a simple well known physical fact. The depletion is built in by design. If that consumer agency claims they are not aware of the basic principles of how a battery works, they should not take care of consumer rights at all. With that logic, you could sue all tyre companies, because a tyre is wearing off while being used.
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https://www.dummies.com/programming...ts/how-batteries-work-in-electronic-circuits/ :
A battery works by immersing two plates made of different metals into a special chemical solution called an electrolyte. The metals react with the electrolyte to produce a flow of charges that accumulate on the negative plate, called the anode. The positive plate, called the cathode, is sucked dry of charges.
And that is at least the truth: Customers want a free battery replacement. And sure, why not. Granted.
To the thread topic, what apple did was the polar opposite of planned obsolescence. And unlike android at the time batteries in a marginal capacity didnt shut down at inopportune times.