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agentkow said:
Couldn't Apple own the site already and redirect it anywhere they want?

Yes, but it doesn't. the site is owned by 3824110 Canada Inc.

I checked out who owns 3824110 - Its registered through a Canadian while the mailing address is in California (see link). Probably just a shell to protect people using these somewhat questionable tactics on domain names.

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/sc_mrksv/corpdir/dataOnline/corpns_re?company_select=3824110

Sooooo..... Its probably not apple.

cheers
m
 
Check out itunes.uk and .fr

Those are not redirecting to apple.com or apple.fr...

So i Would say it is not a deal braker for apple to hvae those domain names
 
mattroberts said:
I wish this were true - but i have no faith.

If apple was bringing itunes to us they might want to get their hands on the itunes.ca website. As of today the site is still pointing to musicdownload.ca. If they haven't already sent a cease a desist order there i doubt a launch is imminent.

just my 2 cents

Yes, but they don't have itunes.de or itunes.co.uk either.
 
Good news, and about time! Let's hope the rumor is right this time... ;)

It'll be interesting to see what the exact price will be for tracks, as well. $0.99 makes sense, and with the strengthening Canadian dollar and weakening American dollar, there isn't much difference, however if the CAD dollar begins to slide again, the Canadian iTMS might be quite the bargain for American music shoppers - just like prescription drugs.... :cool:
 
agentkow said:
Couldn't Apple own the site already and redirect it anywhere they want?

rodgerso@Daves-PowerBook:~$ whois itunes.ca
Status: EXIST
Registrar: MyID.ca (Creative Pixels Inc.)
Registrar-no: 25309
Registrant-no: 116185
Domaine-no: 638626
Subdomain: itunes.ca
Renewal-Date: 2005/05/01
Date-Approved: 2003/05/01
Date-Modified: 2004/05/01
Organization: 3824110 Canada INC.
Description:
Admin-Name: Nahed Majzoub
Admin-Title:
Admin-Postal: 3824110 Canada INC.

Irvine United States of America
Admin-Phone:
Admin-Fax:
Admin-Mailbox: 3824110@mailbox.ca
Tech-Name: Tina Hanbidge
Tech-Title:
Tech-Postal:
Irvine United States of America
Tech-Phone:
Tech-Fax:
Tech-Mailbox: tina@mailbox.ca
NS1-Hostname: ns.www1.ca
NS1-Netaddress: 216.127.92.99
NS2-Hostname: ns2.www1.ca
NS2-Netaddress: 216.127.92.99
NS3-Hostname:
NS3-Netaddress:
NS4-Hostname:
NS4-Netaddress:
NS5-Hostname:
NS5-Netaddress:
NS6-Hostname:
NS6-Netaddress:


Doesn't look like Apple. But who knows.

David :cool:
 
It's always been this way...

wordmunger said:
If this is true, then instead of Canada moaning about how everyone else has ITMS, everyone else will be moaning about how ITMS Canada charges only $.77 U.S. I guess turnabout is fair play...

This is not to gloat at all, but, it's always been this way -- CD's have been and are less expensive in Canada than in the United States.
 
The National Post has a story in its financial section where it claims "sources" say that iTunes is coming to Canada (a subscription, which I don't have, is necessary to access the complete story -- perhaps someon with a print edition can fill in the details?). The story is even promoted on the front page of the print edition. While I have serious misgivings about the journalistic quality of the National Post, they are generally respected for their business coverage, and I can't imagine them promoting a story on the front page if they weren't reasonably sure, and had independent sources.
 
Tulse said:
The National Post has a story in its financial section where it claims "sources" say that iTunes is coming to Canada (a subscription, which I don't have, is necessary to access the complete story -- perhaps someon with a print edition can fill in the details?). The story is even promoted on the front page of the print edition. While I have serious misgivings about the journalistic quality of the National Post, they are generally respected for their business coverage, and I can't imagine them promoting a story on the front page if they weren't reasonably sure, and had independent sources.

There probably is some truth to it then. And that's not really that hard to fathom either, as iTMS has been around for a while now, and iTMS Canada has been rumored since June or July. Enough time has probably gone by now for Apple to sort out what it needs to sort out in Canada and I could see a launch on the near future, or November as this latest rumor predicts. With other online music services already here (i.e. Napster) there are obvious no huge, insurmountable issues with doing the online music store thing in Canada, so hopefully Apple has done what it needs to do and I'll be ale to buy some tunes for Christmas. :cool:
 
~Shard~ said:
There probably is some truth to it then. And that's not really that hard to fathom either, as iTMS has been around for a while now, and iTMS Canada has been rumored since June or July. Enough time has probably gone by now for Apple to sort out what it needs to sort out in Canada and I could see a launch on the near future, or November as this latest rumor predicts. With other online music services already here (i.e. Napster) there are obvious no huge, insurmountable issues with doing the online music store thing in Canada, so hopefully Apple has done what it needs to do and I'll be ale to buy some tunes for Christmas. :cool:

Napster is here? Who knew?

David :cool:
 
MacinDoc said:
Traditionally, though, I agree, Canadians have frequently been hosed by Apple Canada with respect to prices and exchange rates.

Well if the prices in the iTMS are not as good as you would like to see, this time you can thank the record companies for screwing you over, not Apple Canada.

I'd imagine Apple is fighting hard for a $0.99 price point.
 
MacinDoc said:
<snip>Traditionally, though, I agree, Canadians have frequently been hosed by Apple Canada with respect to prices and exchange rates.

I don't know about other times, but I know the last 2 computers I bought were cheaper in Canada then they were in the US when the dollar was converted. I realize there are more factors involved, like figuring out work hours based on local minimum wages, average wages, etc. But I liked the deal.

David :cool:
 
I think this is merely a evil ploy by the staff to let the previous "iTMS Canada on June 15" thread die ;)

Seriously, I hope it's true this time. I need this!
 
National Post article

Music giant readies Canadian launch: Market braces for Apple's download division, iTunes

National Post
Wed 13 Oct 2004
Page: FP1 / Front
Section: Financial Post
Byline: Robert Thompson
Source: Financial Post

ITunes, Apple Computer Inc.'s hugely popular online music service, is gearing up for a Canadian launch that could come as early as next month, music industry sources say.

The launch of a Canadian iTunes store would dramatically alter the digital music landscape in Canada.

To date, only Puretracks.com, Archambault.ca and Napster.ca have operated in Canada.

ITunes, the world's most successful legal downloading service, with 125 million paid downloads in the U.S. since launching in April, 2003, skipped this country earlier this year over copyright issues. In June this year, Apple launched iTunes in Europe, selling 800,000 downloads in its first week.

Phil Leigh, an analyst with Inside Digital Media in the U.S., said Apple's iTunes, in conjunction with its iPod MP3 player, now defines legal downloading for many consumers.

"ITunes and the iPod have lived up to the hype," said Mr. Leigh, noting Apple controls more than 70% of the digital downloading market in the U.S.

An Apple representative has met with Canada's four major recording labels in order to secure songs for the service, sources say. The sources added the launch could be delayed until February if Apple can't get its promotional material prepared in time for next month.

Apple's Canadian officials said yesterday they do not comment on rumour.

Apple skipped Canada earlier because it could not reach an agreement on royalties with the Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency Ltd., an organization seeking a tariff on digital music sales.

But it is now believed Apple will go ahead with its Canadian plans despite the uncertainty over the copyright issue.

Mr. Leigh said Apple will likely unleash a marketing blitz to promote an iTunes launch in Canada.

"It makes sense for them to be really aggressive in promoting iTunes because it also promotes iPod sales," he said.

Alistair Mitchell, co-chief executive of Puretracks.com, the first legal downloading service in Canada (it launched last year) said he has heard rumours of an iTunes launch and has noted an increase in advertising in Canada for the iPod.

However, he believes increased interest in digital downloading should be beneficial for Puretracks, which already has partnership arrangements with Bell Canada and TELUS Corp.

"I think they'll have a great impact on the space because of the money and marketing they bring to the area," Mr. Mitchell said.

Mr. Mitchell would not disclose how many downloads Puretracks has had to date. Puretracks.com is owned by Moontaxi Media Inc., Records on Wheels, Key Publishers, Universal Music Canada and EMI Music Canada.

Mr. Mitchell said downloads on Puretracks.com are of a higher quality than what iTunes is offering in the United States, a factor he expects consumers will notice.

Mr. Mitchell would not say how Puretracks.com plans to respond to the launch of iTunes.

"I'll leave that as an element of surprise," he said. "But it'll all be about promoting our quality."
 
I went to Puretracks to check out that "quality" claim, but they wouldn't let me into their site, kind of like they won't comment on how "many" tracks they have sold.

Then I went and found it somewhere else, so my question is: is 192k WMA really higher quality than 128k AAC?
 
Protected WMA 192K vs. 128K AAC

agentkow said:
I went to Puretracks to check out that "quality" claim, but they wouldn't let me into their site...so my question is: is 192k WMA really higher quality than 128k AAC?

The simple answer is that 128K AAC is FAR SUPERIOR to a protected 192K WMA because I can actually listen to it at work, home, or on my iPod. I think all you get with the WMA files is an error unless you have something called a PC.
 
Inkmonkey said:
Music giant readies Canadian launch: Market braces for Apple's download division, iTunes

My skepticism is slowly evaporating - but February is along way off hope they can get it together before then.
 
Just something I noticed while putting the date of November 26 into my day planner...

Why do it on a Friday? The 23rd is the traditional "new realease" Tuesday, while Thursday is American Thanksgiving, so would they really release it on the day after Turkey day?

I seem to remember Panther coming out on a Friday, but otherwise is this likely?
 
agentkow said:
Just something I noticed while putting the date of November 26 into my day planner...

Why do it on a Friday? The 23rd is the traditional "new realease" Tuesday, while Thursday is American Thanksgiving, so would they really release it on the day after Turkey day?

I seem to remember Panther coming out on a Friday, but otherwise is this likely?

Who cares, I'll take an iTMS Canada announcement on a Sunday at 3:41 AM!!! ;)
 
IT'S TRUE. MAJOR MEDIA REPORTS ON IT

Please visit the canada.com article about this at

http://www.canada.com/components/printstory/printstory4.aspx?id=db69b6ed-dcec-4029-b3b8-425bbdc194aeMarket prepares for iTunes Canada Launch

Robert Thompson Financial Post October 13, 2004 ITunes, Apple Computer Inc.'s hugely popular online music service, is gearing up for a Canadian launch that could come as early as next month, music industry sources say. The launch of a Canadian iTunes store would dramatically alter the digital music landscape in Canada. To date, only Puretracks.com, Archambault.ca and Napster.ca have operated in Canada. ITunes, the world's most successful legal downloading service, with 125 million paid downloads in the U.S. since launching in April, 2003, skipped this country earlier this year over copyright issues. In June this year, Apple launched iTunes in Europe, selling 800,000 downloads in its first week. Phil Leigh, an analyst with Inside Digital Media in the U.S., said Apple's iTunes, in conjunction with its iPod MP3 player, now defines legal downloading for many consumers. "ITunes and the iPod have lived up to the hype," said Mr. Leigh, noting Apple controls more than 70% of the digital downloading market in the U.S. An Apple representative has met with Canada's four major recording labels in order to secure songs for the service, sources say. The sources added the launch could be delayed until February if Apple can't get its promotional material prepared in time for next month. Apple's Canadian officials said yesterday they do not comment on rumour. Apple skipped Canada earlier because it could not reach an agreement on royalties with the Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency Ltd., an organization seeking a tariff on digital music sales. But it is now believed Apple will go ahead with its Canadian plans despite the uncertainty over the copyright issue. Mr. Leigh said Apple will likely unleash a marketing blitz to promote an iTunes launch in Canada. "It makes sense for them to be really aggressive in promoting iTunes because it also promotes iPod sales," he said. Alistair Mitchell, co-chief executive of Puretracks.com, the first legal downloading service in Canada (it launched last year) said he has heard rumours of an iTunes launch and has noted an increase in advertising in Canada for the iPod. However, he believes increased interest in digital downloading should be beneficial for Puretracks, which already has partnership arrangements with Bell Canada and Telus Corp. "I think they'll have a great impact on the space because of the money and marketing they bring to the area," Mr. Mitchell said. Mr. Mitchell would not disclose how many downloads Puretracks has had to date. Puretracks.com is owned by Moontaxi Media Inc., Records on Wheels, Key Publishers, Universal Music Canada and EMI Music Canada. Mr. Mitchell said downloads on Puretracks.com are of a higher quality than what iTunes is offering in the United States, a factor he expects consumers will notice. Mr. Mitchell would not say how Puretracks.com plans to respond to the launch of iTunes. "I'll leave that as an element of surprise," he said. "But it'll all be about promoting our quality." © National Post 2004
 
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