It's be 5 months now... what drawbacks are there for the iPhone 6/6+

[sunking101]

Firstly, about me "growing thicker skin", now you're getting personal. I don't get personal with people here. Maybe you're the one with the flaw.



Short memory much? You called me a liar the other day and virtually anyone that says they aren't not experiencing the issues you're having such as screen freezing, lag and tabs reloading then you tell them right to their face that they are not using their iPhone nearly as much as you. You have no idea how people use their iPhone so you may want to remove yourself from that high horse.






No worries, he will. He's called me and others a liar here before. It's what he does when he fails at spreading the FUD he's attempting at doing.

Lol. I have never once called you or anyone else a liar. Show everyone the evidence. As for getting personal, you threatened to report me to a moderator earlier for criticising one aspect of the iPhone 6+. Anyway, whatever.

 

[HenryDJP]

Wow, I wish I'd got one from the same batch as yours.

More GPU and CPU beef for the scaling
iOS9
3GB of RAM
I expect that yours is also strengthened around the volume buttons?

Seriously, "zero problems" is pushing the boundaries of reality a little.

Lol. I have never once called you or anyone else a liar. Show everyone the evidence. As for getting personal, you threatened to report me to a moderator earlier for criticising one aspect of the iPhone 6+. Anyway, whatever.

Yeah, you forgot the above post you sent to me the other day questioning my honesty when I stated I wasn't experiencing your issues with my iPhone 6 Plus. Ah, how quickly the mind runs away from people.

 

[sunking101]

Yeah, you forgot the above post you sent to me the other day questioning my honesty when I stated I wasn't experiencing your issues with my iPhone 6 Plus. Ah, how quickly the mind runs away from people.

Where do I call you a liar there?
These are mobile phones we're discussing here, not our mothers. Come on now, there's no need to be so uptight.

 

[newellj]

Five months in and I still love the hell out of my 6, it's like it's still brand new. Perfect quality control, great feel and build quality, and KILLER battery life - I unplug at 8 AM and by 11 PM I'm often still north of 90%. In fact it's almost 2 PM and my phone still says 100% battery. My 5's battery was terrible, so this is a welcome change, hope it doesn't get worse with iOS updates.

I can go days without a charge, literally.

I've owned them all. The 5S had the worst battery life of any iPhone I've had.

 

[imagineadam]

No, I'm not trolling. Currently at 17 minutes usage with 9 hours standby and just dropped to 99% as I typed this. Full brightness, wifi and bluetooth on, 3 bars LTE. It may not be a lot of usage, but 17 minutes of the screen on full brightness, with push notifications, location services etc. all turned on isn't too bad. So no, I'm not trolling - that's my usage case. Sorry, I have a life and a job and use my phone as needed, I don't sit glued to my phone for 12+ hours a day like the average macrumors member playing some stupid trite game and then whining that the battery sucks.

My iPhone 5 - which wasn't part of the defective battery serial number range - would've been at 60-70% by this point. Sorry but great standby time still counts, because the majority of the time a normal person's phone is going to be in standby. My 5 could've never touched this. On a heavy, heavy day, the battery is still north of 60%, usually closer to 70% by 11 PM. So however you want to cut it, my battery life is insane. If yours isn't, I'm sorry to hear that.

Call me a liar or a troll all you want

Woah woah calm down. I do apologize. I jumped to conclusion. The way you wrote it just seemed like you were trolling to me. You must have got a good one. In my expierence the quality control hasn't been that great with the 6 from what I've had/have. I'm on my 5th. The display quality is really bad this time around. Every screen I've had had some sort of color temperature shift, dark corner, mura, yellowing, uneven backlighting and/or dead pixels. And 4 out of the 5 had the FaceTime camera shifting issue. I finally gave up and settled on my current device which has a better screen and it has the shifting FaceTime camera. I'm going to send it back at the end of warranty and hope they have the issues sorted out by then.

I'm very happy you are excited about the standby time. Mine is great as well. Everyone's usage patterns differ. I usually get about 7 hours on screen usage time with my 6 depending on what I do with it.

Sorry for calling you a troll.

 

[puma1552]

its all good no worries

 

[goobot]

Proof the iPhone 5 reloads tabs less than the 6Plus? Doubtful. And thanks for ignoring my request for you to prove your FACT as stated in regards to most people using their iPhone in a very basic manner. You're making up stuff as usual.

It's a FACT that 64 bit uses more ram. It's also a very common fact so it's a little humorous that you would call him a liar.

 

[the caveman]

It's a FACT that 64 bit uses more ram. It's also a very common fact so it's a little humorous that you would call him a liar.

I dont think 64 bit itself uses more ram, it allows the IOS to recognize more ram, at least thats how it works on personal computers

 

[bandofbrothers]

Interesting thread Guys.

I use the iPhone 6 Plus and the iPad Air.

My experience is that after dropping Safari and using alternatives such as Chrome and Dolphin and the Atomic browser (yes I like to taste what's out there # ) my open tabs re load have either reduced dramatically or even stopped - especially with the Atomic Browser.

So as I'm a layman I can only but think that Safari could be the issue here and not just the argument of Ram.

I typically have approx 6-10 open tabs.

 

[sunking101]

Interesting thread Guys.

I use the iPhone 6 Plus and the iPad Air.

My experience is that after dropping Safari and using alternatives such as Chrome and Dolphin and the Atomic browser (yes I like to taste what's out there # ) my open tabs re load have either reduced dramatically or even stopped - especially with the Atomic Browser.

So as I'm a layman I can only but think that Safari could be the issue here and not just the argument of Ram.

I typically have approx 6-10 open tabs.

My stock apps reload as well, along with other apps. It isn't just Safari or browsers in general, and the browser issue can be minimised if you don't actually leave the app itself - ie you quickly swap between a few tabs.
There just isn't enough RAM to multitask. I update one long note in the stock notes app several times a day. It is pages and pages long. Whenever I go to this minimised app after doing something else, it will reload. Go into an app which involves navigating menus and installing search parameters, such as Ebay or Amazon, spend 5-10 minutes in one of those apps browsing items and then pop into Safari (or any other browser) to search a company's website which again involves navigating menus and installing search parameters. Spend 5-10 minutes researching and getting some info on the item(s) you've seen on Amazon or Ebay, then go back to your app. It will reload and you'll have to type in all the data again to get back to where you were when you last left the app. Or you're typing data into a webform and the phone rings, you spend a few mins chatting and when you go back to your webform it reloads.
There is plenty enough RAM to do individual tasks but if you try to do several tasks at once the system cannot cope! Please don't tell me that this is an iPhone or iOS limitation because I could do all of these things on my old iPhone 5 and my even older iPhone 4, I just can't do them on my current range-topping iPhone 6 Plus.

I used to be able to have a couple of apps and 4-5 browser tabs open and not experience reloading when I swapped between them unless I left each one for a long time. Now if I spend 5-10 minutes elsewhere and come back to something it will reload. It's rubbish! I've had to completely alter my iPhone habits since getting the 6+. I now have one or two tabs open at most and avoid certain tasks I used to do routinely because the phone will just reload.

 

[HenryDJP]

It's a FACT that 64 bit uses more ram. It's also a very common fact so it's a little humorous that you would call him a liar.

I didn't question that 64 bit uses more ram, I questioned the tabs reloading faster on the 6 plus vs. the 5S. Got a video that shows that? Statistics don't always equal reality so maybe before you step into an argument you weren't invited into maybe you should gets YOUR FACTS straight.

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My stock apps reload as well, along with other apps. It isn't just Safari or browsers in general, and the browser issue can be minimised if you don't actually leave the app itself - ie you quickly swap between a few tabs.
There just isn't enough RAM to multitask. I update one long note in the stock notes app several times a day. It is pages and pages long. Whenever I go to this minimised app after doing something else, it will reload. Go into an app which involves navigating menus and installing search parameters, such as Ebay or Amazon, spend 5-10 minutes in one of those apps browsing items and then pop into Safari (or any other browser) to search a company's website which again involves navigating menus and installing search parameters. Spend 5-10 minutes researching and getting some info on the item(s) you've seen on Amazon or Ebay, then go back to your app. It will reload and you'll have to type in all the data again to get back to where you were when you last left the app. Or you're typing data into a webform and the phone rings, you spend a few mins chatting and when you go back to your webform it reloads.
There is plenty enough RAM to do individual tasks but if you try to do several tasks at once the system cannot cope! Please don't tell me that this is an iPhone or iOS limitation because I could do all of these things on my old iPhone 5 and my even older iPhone 4, I just can't do them on my current range-topping iPhone 6 Plus.

I used to be able to have a couple of apps and 4-5 browser tabs open and not experience reloading when I swapped between them unless I left each one for a long time. Now if I spend 5-10 minutes elsewhere and come back to something it will reload. It's rubbish! I've had to completely alter my iPhone habits since getting the 6+. I now have one or two tabs open at most and avoid certain tasks I used to do routinely because the phone will just reload.

Then get yourself an Android phone so you can stop endlessly complaining and move on. Problem solved.

 

[sunking101]

Then get yourself an Android phone so you can stop endlessly complaining and move on. Problem solved.

That neatly avoids the issue doesn't it. If I could do something on my iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 but not on my iPhone 6+, I should just shrug and buy an Android phone? I should write off my £200+ worth of purchased apps and all the years that I have become entrenched in the Apple ecosystem with no complaints?

Think about it this way. Safari in iOS6 allowed a maximum number of 8 browser tabs. Safari in iOS7 allowed a maximum number of 23 browser tabs, and Safari in iOS8 allows a maximum number of 36 browser tabs. Now then, if I could actually keep more open tabs in iOS7 and on older hardware than I can keep in iOS8 on my 6+ without them reloading, then why have Apple increased the amount of available tabs from 23 to 36? I cannot actually swap between two tabs and one app without all of them reloading! When I say that, I refer you to my earlier post as I don't just mean quickly swapping between them to test my point. You need to actually spend some time using each app/tab before switching or else it's a pointless exercise.

On my 6+ with iOS8 I cannot get anywhere near using the 8 browser tabs that Apple originally gave us with iOS6 without them all reloading, so why on earth have they upped the maximum number of tabs to 36?? Or even the 23 they gave us with iOS7? Why give us a feature that we can't use? For people who just check the weather or read front pages then this reloading issue isn't a problem (aside from unnecessary increased data usage), but for anyone who does anything more intense with their phone then they'll be living in Reload City....and it isn't a fun place to be in 2015 whilst using supposedly premium kit.

 

[HenryDJP]

That neatly avoids the issue doesn't it. If I could do something on my iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 but not on my iPhone 6+, I should just shrug and buy an Android phone? I should write off my £200+ worth of purchased apps and all the years that I have become entrenched in the Apple ecosystem with no complaints?

Yes, when a person has a problem with something and that can't deal with it, they get rid of it for something else, simple as that. They don't sit and just complain about it week after week.

When a man or woman can't deal with each other anymore they divorce themselves from the problem.

When a person's car constantly stays in the repair shop costing them money and time and they've had very little pleasure with it they finally get rid of the car and get something else that satisfies them.

Need anymore analogies? I can go on.

YOUR issues are YOUR issues. I do not deny the Tabs reloading. I don't use my iPhone 6 Plus for webSurfing (which I think it's ridiculous to use a screen that small for anything more than basic surfing anyway) but I do use my iPad Air and the Tabs reload. It CAN BE annoying, but my iPad does so much more for me in terms of running my business so I don't care about the Tabs reloading so I'm not going to constantly cry about it everyday and run to every online thread spreading my misery.

You also mentioned something earlier about apps reloading? Never experienced that with any of my iOS devices.

Who cares about your iPhone 5S running better? Does it really matter? You decided to buy a 6 Plus so obviously you decided to upgrade and I'm sure the larger screen was one of your reasons right? Well you can get that same large screen experience on a Samsung Note 4 or whichever Android offers more ram and no tab reloading.

You're not doing anything but complaining day after day on the forums. Who is that helping? Apple doesn't read this forum, they have their own way of getting info from their customers.

So once again, you should switch to an Android. Besides you've been singing some of the praises of how Android phones have more ram and less issues than the 6 Plus. Not just the Tab reloading but you've also complained often about screen freezing and lag.
Complaining and spreading FUD on forums is not going to fix YOUR problems with the iPhone 6 Plus so yes, switching to Android would be the best solution for YOU. Problem solved.

 

[sunking101]

Yes, when a person has a problem with something and that can't deal with it, they get rid of it for something else, simple as that. They don't sit and just complain about it week after week.

When a man or woman can't deal with each other anymore they divorce themselves from the problem.

When a person's car constantly stays in the repair shop costing them money and time and they've had very little pleasure with it they finally get rid of the car and get something else that satisfies them.

Need anymore analogies? I can go on.

YOUR issues are YOUR issues. I do not deny the Tabs reloading. I don't use my iPhone 6 Plus for webSurfing (which I think it's ridiculous to use a screen that small for anything more than basic surfing anyway) but I do use my iPad Air and the Tabs reload. It CAN BE annoying, but my iPad does so much more for me in terms of running my business so I don't care about the Tabs reloading so I'm not going to constantly cry about it everyday and run to every online thread spreading my misery.

You also mentioned something earlier about apps reloading? Never experienced that with any of my iOS devices.

Who cares about your iPhone 5S running better? Does it really matter? You decided to buy a 6 Plus so obviously you decided to upgrade and I'm sure the larger screen was one of your reasons right? Well you can get that same large screen experience on a Samsung Note 4 or whichever Android offers more ram and no tab reloading.

You're not doing anything but complaining day after day on the forums. Who is that helping? Apple doesn't read this forum, they have their own way of getting info from their customers.

So once again, you should switch to an Android. Besides you've been singing some of the praises of how Android phones have more ram and less issues than the 6 Plus. Not just the Tab reloading but you've also complained often about screen freezing and lag.
Complaining and spreading FUD on forums is not going to fix YOUR problems with the iPhone 6 Plus so yes, switching to Android would be the best solution for YOU. Problem solved.

I accept some of what you're saying but this is an iPhone forum. I comment where it is relevant within certain threads. If RAM or the negatives of the 6+ is brought up, then I will post in that specific thread. Consequently you don't have to join in because ultimately you're doing exactly what I'm doing, you're just coming at it from a different angle. Constantly defending Apple is no less of a waste of time than constantly attacking them.

 

[HenryDJP]

I accept some of what you're saying but this is an iPhone forum. I comment where it is relevant within certain threads. If RAM or the negatives of the 6+ is brought up, then I will post in that specific thread. Consequently you don't have to join in because ultimately you're doing exactly what I'm doing, you're just coming at it from a different angle. Constantly defending Apple is no less of a waste of time than constantly attacking them.

I'm constantly defending Apple? Please find multiple posts of me doing that. You won't. Don't make stuff up. And I guess you missed the part where I said the tabs reload on my iPad as well and it's annoying, so that's not exactly defending Apple. Did I say, "Apple can do what they want and they know what's best for us? NO. Please don't make stuff up.
And who cares if I or anyone else is defending Apple. This isn't about Apple. This about you hating your experience with your 6 Plus.

And let's be honest about it because I CAN find multiple posts where you joined the thread that didn't have anything to do with your contribution to it. One person started a thread saying they wanted to switch from the 6 to the 6 Plus. All the OP asked was how was the battery life and are there more apps that fit the screen properly. You contributed to his thread by spouting off about the tabs reloading, the screen freezing and the lag. None of which he even asked for. So once again, don't make stuff up sir.

You're right, this is an iPhone forum but your redundancy isn't helping anyone. It can only help when you have a solution. Do you? Otherwise it's just complaining over and over.
Yes, you should get rid of your 6 Plus because it's causing you unhappiness (which you have stated verbatim) and go for a Samsung Note 4. Does my recommending you to switch platforms sound like I'm defending Apple???

 

[imagineadam]

Wow is the 6+ really that much worse at holding safari tabs in memory?! Only 1 or 2 tabs then reloading?! I have the 6 and I can get it to hold up to 8 if they aren't super content loaded pages but it will close out all other apps that were suspended in memory. But the a8 is blazing fast and everything reloads up super fast so I'm not too bothered by it an neither are the masses. But If you are on cell data that could get expensive reloading all of that data over and over. Could be part of an evil scheme!

My iPhone 5 could keep all 8 tabs fully loaded (ios6) plus multiple apps fully loaded probably 5-8. It was the best expierence for apples multitasking imo. It was really nice to have everything right where you left it. Those days are gone until they up the ram though I think!

 

[sunking101]

Wow is the 6+ really that much worse at holding safari tabs in memory?! Only 1 or 2 tabs then reloading?! I have the 6 and I can get it to hold up to 8 if they aren't super content loaded pages but it will close out all other apps that were suspended in memory. But the a8 is blazing fast and everything reloads up super fast so I'm not too bothered by it an neither are the masses. But If you are on cell data that could get expensive reloading all of that data over and over. Could be part of an evil scheme!

My iPhone 5 could keep all 8 tabs fully loaded (ios6) plus multiple apps fully loaded probably 5-8. It was the best expierence for apples multitasking imo. It was really nice to have everything right where you left it. Those days are gone until they up the ram though I think!

It's the closing out of apps and browser tabs when leaving each app and spending a bit of time elsewhere that's the problem for me, not so much swapping between tabs whilst in Safari (and not leaving the app). Even if I stay in Safari, I still can't keep more than three content-heavy tabs open without at least one reloading though.

 

[spacemnspiff]

This was entertaining, but I guarantee that RAM rhetoric is not going die. Unless someone can prove it scientifically and not provide anecdotal evidence, I cannot agree.

From the posts since the 6 and 6+ plus released, RAM seems to be a pricey commodity that Apple seems to skimp on at the cost of user experience. But Apple's stance is to provide user experience.

So is RAM really that cost prohibitive? I doubt that, the answer to user experience issue might not lie in the RAM, but something else.

 

[Preed08]

What's this 20 tabs argument im hearing? Not true at all. If I switch between two or three active pages and go to an app, such as Facebook or even spotify, once I come back those pages usually have to be reloaded. This is a common occurrence. Those who don't see it must not use multiple applications within a short span of time, or don't recognize when the application has been dumped and is reloading when you return to it.
Put it this way, if I go to Facebook or a couple other apps, I don't want my pages dumped, period. This is the only problem I have with the phone. Other than that, it's fantastic.

Also to the guys above that state "just go get an android phone" ..that rhetoric is entirely played out. There should actually be a rule against posts such as that because simply telling someone to go get another product when they have valid concerns with the product they love is pretty foul

 

[LostMyiPhone]

I've owned them all. The 5S had the worst battery life of any iPhone I've had.

My wife's 5s dies SUPER quick. I feel bad for her for having to deal with it but what do you do? I'm getting her a 6s when they come out so hopefully she'll get to enjoy better battery life!

 

[HenryDJP]

My wife's 5s dies SUPER quick. I feel bad for her for having to deal with it but what do you do? I'm getting her a 6s when they come out so hopefully she'll get to enjoy better battery life!

Doubtful. Apple generally doesn't put out the best battery life or feature set unless it's their flagship product such as the 6 Plus.

On a different note, why do people keep assuming the next iPhone will be called the 6S? Lately Apple has not been repeating history.

 

[AAPLinc]

On a different note, why do people keep assuming the next iPhone will be called the 6S? Lately Apple has not been repeating history.

I think it's safe to assume the next iPhone would be the 6S, unless for some odd reason they jumped to 7 and have decided to axe the S model. Apple has changed up a lot of things they used to do, but I dont see why they would all of a sudden just skip the S model and label it the 7. They've had the S almost since the beginning, why would they stop now? Original iPhone --> 3G --> 3GS --> 4 --> 4S --> 5 --> 5S --> 6....

I mean besides the shift from the original to the 3G, there has been an "S" nearly since the beginning. I would think they would axe the C before the S. Think about the S model, it allows them to present a "new" iPhone with essentially the same form factor (just upgraded internals), it saves money rather than redesigning yearly.

 

[LostMyiPhone]

Doubtful. Apple generally doesn't put out the best battery life or feature set unless it's their flagship product such as the 6 Plus.

On a different note, why do people keep assuming the next iPhone will be called the 6S? Lately Apple has not been repeating history.

The person I was replying to stated that the 5s had the worst battery life of any iPhone they had owned. I echoed that sentiment by saying that my wife's iPhone 5s also has terrible battery life. It would, therefore, stand to reason that ANYTHING -- even if it's not the "flagship"would have better battery life than a 5s. For what it's worth, I don't consider the 6+ the flagship -- just a second offering.

I also find it much easier to type "6s" than to type "the next iPhone". Many others do too. Who really cares as long as others know what you're talking about.

 

[HenryDJP]

The person I was replying to stated that the 5s had the worst battery life of any iPhone they had owned. I echoed that sentiment by saying that my wife's iPhone 5s also has terrible battery life. It would, therefore, stand to reason that ANYTHING -- even if it's not the "flagship"would have better battery life than a 5s. For what it's worth, I don't consider the 6+ the flagship -- just a second offering.

I also find it much easier to type "6s" than to type "the next iPhone". Many others do too. Who really cares as long as others know what you're talking about.

I think you're taking my post a little too personal, and honestly I don't know why. I wasn't trying to offend you.

But, whether you prefer to ignore the 6 Plus as the flagship or not, it doesn't change the fact that it IS Apple's flagship phone. It has optical image stabilization, landscape modes for email, texting and the home screen, longer batter life and a higher resolution screen, not to mention larger. All of this trumps the iPhone 6 because it doesn't offer any of these features and it has shorter battery life and a lower resolution screen. End of story.

 

[AAPLinc]

I think you're taking my post a little too personal, and honestly I don't know why. I wasn't trying to offend you.

But, whether you prefer to ignore the 6 Plus as the flagship or not, it doesn't change the fact that it IS Apple's flagship phone. It has image stabilization, landscape modes for email, texting and the home screen, longer batter life and a higher resolution screen, not to mention larger. All of this trumps the iPhone 6 because it doesn't offer any of these features and it has shorter battery life and a lower resolution screen. End of story.

I wouldn't agree that the 6+ is necessarily the flagship. More people purchased the iPhone 6 because the 6+ is for a different kind of user (it is said that the 6 is 3x as popular as the 6+). The 6+ does have better battery life, screen resolution and digital image stability on the camera, however it's the same internals and pretty much the same experience, besides having a bigger screen and longer battery life. The 6 and 6+ are both flagships. The 6+ is for those who want a phablet type phone, the 6 is more the average user that want a super fast phone, with a more moderate screen size and $100 cheaper. The 6+ is simply the bigger flagship. It's like a 2 door Porsche vs a 4 door Porsche. They're both Porsche.

My friend with a 6+ now wants to sell and get rid of his iPad air because he says his 6+ is close enough to a tablet that he never really uses the air anymore. I have a 2g Nexus 7, so for me it's nice having that 7" tablet, and my 4.7" phone. I use them both equally. For those who want to consolidate devices and have one go-to device, they could get the 6+. Different strokes for different folks.