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5 months in and I still am not a fan of the overall design of the device. I loved form factor of the 5/5s. I wish they have brought it forward into the 6/6 plus. I'm not a fan of the roundedness of the device personally. Maybe I'm boring but I like the squared body and chamfered edges on the 5/5s design.
 
I bought the 6 and 6+ when they first came out. Went back and forth between the two and now only use the 6+. It is big but the screen is worth the trouble.

Both phones have worked well and am very happy. The 6 is what I had hoped the 5/5S would have been. RAM has not been an issue with me. The extra GB of RAM in my iPad Air 2 made no difference as far as I can tell.

Hope Apple increases to 2-4GB so the whiners will be happy!:p
 
5 months in and I still am not a fan of the overall design of the device. I loved form factor of the 5/5s. I wish they have brought it forward into the 6/6 plus. I'm not a fan of the roundedness of the device personally. Maybe I'm boring but I like the squared body and chamfered edges on the 5/5s design.

I agree I loved the slab look, and the squared edges however I believe Apple went more rounded because it makes the device appear EVEN more thin than it already is. Thin is in, apparently. Who knows what they'll do for the 7 in 2016. I have a water resistant case on my 6, so it squares off the edges anyway so the build doesn't even occur to me. Even though I loved the build on my 4S, the 6 takes the cake for me, in the design factor.
 
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It's been a couple months since the launch of the 6 and 6+. What drawbacks that were originally claimed for the phone actually present themselves?

For me, I'd definitely say it's the RAM amount. Far far too many times are apps such as safari reloaded from simply switching between two apps for a period of time. I have a problem of upgrading every year that I wanted to shake with this device..but if the next phone has 2GB, I'll def have to pick it up.
It will be a great day indeed when my apps are saved in state and are instantly available such as on a computer...
I was hoping you would know since you're the one that has had it for a few months.
 
5 months in and I still am not a fan of the overall design of the device. I loved form factor of the 5/5s. I wish they have brought it forward into the 6/6 plus. I'm not a fan of the roundedness of the device personally. Maybe I'm boring but I like the squared body and chamfered edges on the 5/5s design.

That might be the case. :D

On the flip side I hated the 5S design. Easy to scratch and seemed not properly symmetrical. I love the iPhone 6/6Plus design. Apple did this one right.
 
It's been a couple months since the launch of the 6 and 6+. What drawbacks that were originally claimed for the phone actually present themselves?

For me, I'd definitely say it's the RAM amount. Far far too many times are apps such as safari reloaded from simply switching between two apps for a period of time. I have a problem of upgrading every year that I wanted to shake with this device..but if the next phone has 2GB, I'll def have to pick it up.
It will be a great day indeed when my apps are saved in state and are instantly available such as on a computer...

Absolutely agree. The RAM issue is blindingly obvious and I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise at this point. It's not a show stopper, but it's incredibly annoying at times when you're trying to cut and paste between apps and the original restarts.
 
That neatly avoids the issue doesn't it. If I could do something on my iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 but not on my iPhone 6+, I should just shrug and buy an Android phone? I should write off my £200+ worth of purchased apps and all the years that I have become entrenched in the Apple ecosystem with no complaints?

Think about it this way. Safari in iOS6 allowed a maximum number of 8 browser tabs. Safari in iOS7 allowed a maximum number of 23 browser tabs, and Safari in iOS8 allows a maximum number of 36 browser tabs. Now then, if I could actually keep more open tabs in iOS7 and on older hardware than I can keep in iOS8 on my 6+ without them reloading, then why have Apple increased the amount of available tabs from 23 to 36? I cannot actually swap between two tabs and one app without all of them reloading! When I say that, I refer you to my earlier post as I don't just mean quickly swapping between them to test my point. You need to actually spend some time using each app/tab before switching or else it's a pointless exercise.

On my 6+ with iOS8 I cannot get anywhere near using the 8 browser tabs that Apple originally gave us with iOS6 without them all reloading, so why on earth have they upped the maximum number of tabs to 36?? Or even the 23 they gave us with iOS7? Why give us a feature that we can't use? For people who just check the weather or read front pages then this reloading issue isn't a problem (aside from unnecessary increased data usage), but for anyone who does anything more intense with their phone then they'll be living in Reload City....and it isn't a fun place to be in 2015 whilst using supposedly premium kit.
You could sell your 6 plus, buy an iPhone 5 and I'm sure some of your accessories would be compatible with 5.

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Absolutely agree. The RAM issue is blindingly obvious and I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise at this point. It's not a show stopper, but it's incredibly annoying at times when you're trying to cut and paste between apps and the original restarts.
The ram issue doesn't bother me because I don't have more than 1 tab open in safari. In fact I'm a bit OCD about closing tabs if I've accidentally left more than one open. I've also got an iPad air 2 which has 2GB of ram and I use it in the same way as my iPhone so I don't really benefit from the extra ram in terms of Safari usage.
 
You could sell your 6 plus, buy an iPhone 5 and I'm sure some of your accessories would be compatible with 5.

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The ram issue doesn't bother me because I don't have more than 1 tab open in safari. In fact I'm a bit OCD about closing tabs if I've accidentally left more than one open. I've also got an iPad air 2 which has 2GB of ram and I use it in the same way as my iPhone so I don't really benefit from the extra ram in terms of Safari usage.

It isn't just about the number of tabs you have open. It affects apps too, and switching between them. The fact is that if you use you iPhone in a certain manner, you will run into the lack of RAM on a daily basis. You don't and that's great.
 
Drawback to the 6 Plus: Needs 2GB of RAM, general stability improvements

Drawbacks to the 6: Needs landscape mode, a little longer battery life
 
Ram is adequate. Maybe it’s not for the iPhone user who operates the phone like the equivalent of a hummingbird.

I use mine to a full extent. I also take the time to periodically turn apps off and restart once in a while. I do the same with my Macbook Air.
 
Ram is adequate. Maybe it’s not for the iPhone user who operates the phone like the equivalent of a hummingbird.

I use mine to a full extent. I also take the time to periodically turn apps off and restart once in a while. I do the same with my Macbook Air.

I close apps and tabs several times per day, and I don't think wanting to switch between two browser tabs and one app without them reloading is too outlandish. Considering that the two generations older iPhone 5 could manage this with ease it says something about this latest batch of iPhones.

RAM is far from "adequate" if such a simple operation cannot be handled.
Seriously, nobody can defend it. Sure you might not use your phone in a manner which highlights the lack of RAM, but you should at least be disappointed to hear that the iPhone 6+ cannot accomplish things that the iPhone 5 could. That's not progress.
 
pros of owning my regular 6 since launch day: Display is excellent, camera is pretty nice, th finger print scanner is very useful coming from a 5, and the size is perfect for a phone. I have pretty good performance except for my cons....

cons of the 6 after 5 months: Although my phone is jailbroken, and i expect some battery drain, my battery is awful. way worse than my iP5. Also the phone is a bit too thin for my liking, although i have it in a case and i take care of it so it doesn't get bent ;)
Also another con is that sometimes touch id is a bit finicky, but usually only when i have moisture or oil on my fingers.

Otherwise, it's a great upgrade from the 5 and a great phone overall.
 
Its obvious then you don't know what to look for.

I know very well still I can't find any

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The proof is in the pudding I'm afraid. My 6+ reloads apps and tabs WAY more readily than my two generations older iPhone 5. In fact I couldn't imagine that ANY device on ANY o/s could reload more readily, it really is that disastrous. So if the older iPhone 5 which was 32Bit and thus uses less RAM than a 64Bit iPhone 5S performs better when it comes to reloading, then RAM is obviously the culprit. Fast forward to the 6+ which uses even more RAM than the 5S and iPhone 6, then it's obvious to all and sundry that more RAM is required.
The old argument that Android needs more RAM than iOS may very well be true, but three or four times as much? Not on your life! Again, the proof is in the pudding. My Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 has 1.5GB of RAM and it doesn't reload tabs or apps anywhere near as readily as my 6+. So if Android needs more than iOS, it isn't even half a gig more. More to the point, if they do need more RAM then manufacturers make sure that they get it! End of problem. Apple should take note and no amount of apologist forum behaviour can ever convince me that my own personal findings are 'wrong'. I live with my device daily and know only too well how badly it needs more RAM.

Anecdotal evidences.
My iPhone 6 doesn't reload pages more than my previous iPhone 5, so based on your logic, your iPhone is defective and there isn't any ram issue.....
Speaking about the galaxy tab 3, wow one of the worst tablet you can find on the market, I don't understand what it has to do with the matter.... Again only anecdotal evidences.
I'm not sharing the same experience. I'm posting from my iPhone 6 with 4 tabs opened, mail in background and it doesn't reload tabs.

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The 'truth' is that my 6+ reloads for fun and it ruins the device for me. I mainly web browse on my phone and the bigger screen was supposed to help...but they crippled the device with insufficient RAM and it so happens that my old iPhone 5 was actually better to browse on. My Android tablet has only 1.5GB of RAM and also performs much better, so the old argument about Android needing 3GB when iOS only needs 1GB is total BS. I've seen the results for myself. As for the Air 2 iPad, everyone states that tabs and apps reload much less frequently with the extra gig of RAM. Things still aren't perfect though, so maybe Apple should be throwing 3 or 4 gigs at the iPad! The truth is that they always skimp on RAM. Apologists bang on about how the reloading can be cured by software updates but this problem is only getting worse. Apparently it's uncouth to throw RAM at the problem like Android does, yet Android's solution works and Apple's doesn't! How many generations do we have to wait until this mystical 1GB non-reloading iPhone appears??
You lost any credibility the moment you said the Galaxy tab 3 performs much better than an iPhone 6+....

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Why on earth would I have 20-30 apps open?? My 6+ can't even swap between two browser tabs and one app without them all reloading. I would be happy if I could manage *that*, and extremely satisfied if I could have a few tabs open and a couple of apps without any reloading. That should be child's play for a £700 device in early 2015.

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I'm assuming that's a joke.☺️
If not, then you're more concerned with the weight of your phone whilst it is inactive in your pocket than any other consideration? In that case you should choose a small, plastic phone.
Your iPhone must be defective because with 4 tabs and two apps mine isn't reloading anything.
As usual every single time you raise up this argument you exaggerates.........

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Whatever the ins and outs, Android devices ship with the appropriate amount of RAM to get the job done and iPhones don't. I don't believe that Android needs three or four times the amount of RAM that iOS does and my own personal experience of Android & iOS devices back this up (*for me).
My iPhone, just like my iPad, is doing its job flawlessly.
Considerably better than my nexus 7 with lollipop and your beloved 2 Gb of ram.
 
I know very well still I can't find any

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Anecdotal evidences.
My iPhone 6 doesn't reload pages more than my previous iPhone 5, so based on your logic, your iPhone is defective and there isn't any ram issue.....
Speaking about the galaxy tab 3, wow one of the worst tablet you can find on the market, I don't understand what it has to do with the matter.... Again only anecdotal evidences.
I'm not sharing the same experience. I'm posting from my iPhone 6 with 4 tabs opened, mail in background and it doesn't reload tabs.

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You lost any credibility the moment you said the Galaxy tab 3 performs much better than an iPhone 6+....

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Your iPhone must be defective because with 4 tabs and two apps mine isn't reloading anything.
As usual every single time you raise up this argument you exaggerates.........

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My iPhone, just like my iPad, is doing its job flawlessly.
Considerably better than my nexus 7 with lollipop and your beloved 2 Gb of ram.

I lost all credibility because I said that an Android device with only 1.5GB of RAM reloads tabs way less than my 6+? How so?
As for your iPhone 6 not presenting the problem that my 6+ does, how does that in any way suggest that my 6+ is defective when they're different phones? My friend has a 6+ and I can get his to exhibit exactly the same behaviour. Plus I took it to the Apple store and the Genius showed me his 6+, which also does it.
 
The proof is that is does. Go and get yourself one if you need to see it for yourself.
Practically everyone I know who has iPhones doesn't use them for anything but the basics; and those who comment here that their 6+ performs flawlessly, is buttery smooth and never reloads tabs or apps can't use their phones for much at all either. Just my opinion.#

It's not just your opinion, since you are repeating that for months.
I told you a million times: in my organization we are using 1 Gb devices to manage gears worthing hundreds millions dollars. With zero ram issue.
You are not an heavy user just because you use Safari and Amazon app, according to my standard.
So please stop pretending the rest of the world are using their iPhone just to make calls and texts.

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Well the memory footprint is less, since the 5 is 32-bit while the 5S, 6 and 6 Plus are 64-bit. That's a pretty strong case. The 6 and 6 Plus require more bandwidth since they support higher resolutions, which will affect the amount of space that can be saved by the RAM.
And iPad air is 64 bit and has a much higher resolution than any iPhone ..... Still no ram issues.
 
It's not just your opinion, since you are repeating that for months.
I told you a million times: in my organization we are using 1 Gb devices to manage gears worthing hundreds millions dollars. With zero ram issue.
You are not an heavy user just because you use Safari and Amazon app, according to my standard.
So please stop pretending the rest of the world are using their iPhone just to make calls and texts.

Listen, your opinion is different to mine. Fair enough.
My old and cheap Android tablet can keep tabs in memory when it's switched off for 24hs! I switch my tablet on, open the browser and nothing reloads. I find myself reading yesterday's news and have to manually reload the page! I'm so used to my 6+ doing it automatically.#
Plenty of people have commented on the reloading issue and yet you (and your entire organisation) seem to have RAM in abundance. I find that really strange and can only deduce that you don't swap around browsers and apps very often, or you don't have a 6+. The latter we know is true anyway, so why constantly defend a product you don't even own?
 
Thank you for posting this, so others don't think it's just me that has a problem with his shenanigans.

I was even banned a couple of times because he literally drove me crazy about this argument.
My bad.
But I can't understand why he doesn't sell his iPhone if he's so unsatisfied.
There are plenty of alternatives....

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Interesting thread Guys.

I use the iPhone 6 Plus and the iPad Air.

My experience is that after dropping Safari and using alternatives such as Chrome and Dolphin and the Atomic browser (yes I like to taste what's out there # ) my open tabs re load have either reduced dramatically or even stopped - especially with the Atomic Browser.

So as I'm a layman I can only but think that Safari could be the issue here and not just the argument of Ram.

I typically have approx 6-10 open tabs.

Correct. Safari is by far the worst in memory management

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Yes, when a person has a problem with something and that can't deal with it, they get rid of it for something else, simple as that. They don't sit and just complain about it week after week.

When a man or woman can't deal with each other anymore they divorce themselves from the problem.

When a person's car constantly stays in the repair shop costing them money and time and they've had very little pleasure with it they finally get rid of the car and get something else that satisfies them.

Need anymore analogies? I can go on.

YOUR issues are YOUR issues. I do not deny the Tabs reloading. I don't use my iPhone 6 Plus for webSurfing (which I think it's ridiculous to use a screen that small for anything more than basic surfing anyway) but I do use my iPad Air and the Tabs reload. It CAN BE annoying, but my iPad does so much more for me in terms of running my business so I don't care about the Tabs reloading so I'm not going to constantly cry about it everyday and run to every online thread spreading my misery.

You also mentioned something earlier about apps reloading? Never experienced that with any of my iOS devices.

Who cares about your iPhone 5S running better? Does it really matter? You decided to buy a 6 Plus so obviously you decided to upgrade and I'm sure the larger screen was one of your reasons right? Well you can get that same large screen experience on a Samsung Note 4 or whichever Android offers more ram and no tab reloading.

You're not doing anything but complaining day after day on the forums. Who is that helping? Apple doesn't read this forum, they have their own way of getting info from their customers.

So once again, you should switch to an Android. Besides you've been singing some of the praises of how Android phones have more ram and less issues than the 6 Plus. Not just the Tab reloading but you've also complained often about screen freezing and lag.
Complaining and spreading FUD on forums is not going to fix YOUR problems with the iPhone 6 Plus so yes, switching to Android would be the best solution for YOU. Problem solved.

I repeated those concepts I don't remember how many times.....

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You could sell your 6 plus, buy an iPhone 5 and I'm sure some of your accessories would be compatible with 5.

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The ram issue doesn't bother me because I don't have more than 1 tab open in safari. In fact I'm a bit OCD about closing tabs if I've accidentally left more than one open. I've also got an iPad air 2 which has 2GB of ram and I use it in the same way as my iPhone so I don't really benefit from the extra ram in terms of Safari usage.

On a mobile device I usually keep no more than 3-4 tabs opened. And with that amount I can easily go to the mail, copy a text and paste it onto a webpage without any reloads.
That's actually what I'm doing a lot during a typical day of usage.
I'm always keeping safari, mail and itranslate opened and switching between them doesn't cause reloads in most of the cases.
And even if a sporadic reload happens, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH IT ??????

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Listen, your opinion is different to mine. Fair enough.
My old and cheap Android tablet can keep tabs in memory when it's switched off for 24hs! I switch my tablet on, open the browser and nothing reloads. I find myself reading yesterday's news and have to manually reload the page! I'm so used to my 6+ doing it automatically.#
Plenty of people have commented on the reloading issue and yet you (and your entire organisation) seem to have RAM in abundance. I find that really strange and can only deduce that you don't swap around browsers and apps very often, or you don't have a 6+. The latter we know is true anyway, so why constantly defend a product you don't even own?

BECAUSE my iPad and all the iPads we are using have 1 Gb of RAM and higher resolution than your iPhone 6+, and none of them are showing such a dramatic behavior you are describing here.
 
And even if a sporadic reload happens, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH IT ??????

FACEPALM.
We've been over this before.

Lost/wasted typing in webforms and on forums
Lost search parameters in certain apps, ie we need to start from the beginning again
Wasted cellular data

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BECAUSE my iPad and all the iPads we are using have 1 Gb of RAM and higher resolution than your iPhone 6+, and none of them are showing such a dramatic behavior you are describing here.

So anyone who runs into a lack of RAM on their 6+ has either a defective device, they're using it wrong, or they're talking BS?
Okies.
 
FACEPALM.
We've been over this before.

Lost/wasted typing in webforms and on forums
Lost search parameters in certain apps, ie we need to start from the beginning again
Wasted cellular data

90% of the times I don't lose any typing....
As usual you seem to describe a totally different device
 
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