Apple is a business that needs people to buy devices more frequently than 6 years. It is unsurprising that they figured this out after people (like me) manually upgraded things like RAM in MacBooks to make them 6 year devices (2008 model still ticking!).
Why does the cheap MacBook PRO come with 4gb of ram? That won't last 2 years. Apple isn't stupid, they know that 4gb will be useless in 2015 yet they push out this laptop (you also can't upgrade it anymore - 4gb is 4gb).
Apple releases state of the art devices that work flawlessly for x time (my experience shows 2-3 years for OSX, 1-2 years for iOS) before they start to date themselves.
Giving 2gb of RAM would future-proof this too much. People with Airs wouldn't upgrade in 2014 or 2015.
If you return every Apple product because it is missing 1 component that you deem necessary, you won't own many. They all have their flaws. This iPad also doesn't have a finger scanner, flaw? The iPhone 5S still doesn't have NFC. Flaw? A piece will always be missing. That's Apple...
Next year's iPad will be missing another "essential" component to a few but is a non-issue for most. They will sell like hotcakes to most, with a few complaining. Ah Apple...
iPad with a fingerprint scanner? Seems worthless to me. The idea with the iPhone was to curb the unbelievably high theft rates. It'll come to all iOS devices in the future, but at this point, I really wouldn't consider it a deteiment. NFC is dead. Until Apple implements it, a universally accepted system is set up for international banking..and merchants see the value, it's dead in the water. More and more folks buy online. Credit and debit cards are extremely convenient. And NFC isn't 'safe' as it sits right now...nor is it set up as a ubiquitous standard across the different platforms
OSx lasting 2-3years? Wild. I've still got a PowerBook 15" we use for offloading P2 (Panasonic proprietary video storage) in the field. Runs FCP as well for quick edits. We've got a pair of 2008 MBPs we use for DMX lighting control, a 2009 Mac Pro...my wife still goes everywhere with her 2010 11" Air...my eight year old son....boogers and all, still enjoying the original iPad everyday! Just update my wife's launch day 4s to a 5s and sold the 4s for $380!
I think you're full of a LOT of misinformation. In fact, isn't the base model MBP 13 & 15" able to be upgraded for $200---to both double the RAM (4-8GB) and the SSD (128-SSD)? If these customers are in 'need' of more memory or storage, this is a decent deal. And they'll know they will benefit for the upgrade. For those that don't and are interested in the lowest price of admission, they'll be fine as well....when your swap files are working with PCIe SSD read/write rates of 750+/550+, it'll be tough to find someone using basic functionality on a basic laptop noticing any slow down over the next 2-3 years. As well, Applecare backs up your machine bumper to bumper for up to three years if you're concerned.
The only people 'worried' or 'missing out' or spec dorks. Waiting only delays the time you'll have using the latest, fastest, best tablet on the market. At the end of the year, you'll easily be able to recoup 70-85% of your purchase price and THEN, your mystical 2GB iPad will be here!
I've owned every iPad. Every iPhone. Several Android phones and tablets (currently a Note, 5s, iPad Air, three iPad 4s [we run a business that has literally been transformed over the past half decade with Apple's portable choices, the MBP, iPod, iPhone, and iPads]), my wife wife is still using her iPad 2 with NO complaints, we've got an original Mini the entire family enjoys...and as mentioned, an original iPad still good for 8-10 hours on the battery and purring along just fine for anything an 8 year old needs it for. He's also got the fourth and fifth gen iPod Touches. While the 4 is showing its age, but still works. I'll tell you what doesn't though. My Nexus 7 (2013) and it's complete lack of optimized tablet apps, and it's terrible portrait mode. I've also still got a Xoom. Doesn't get used any more
I've got three iMacs. Two 2010, one 2011. A 2011 Air and 2 2012 rMBPs. Again, mainly for business, but the rMBPs are my wife and I's daily drivers with our iPhone, iPad of choice and 11" Air
It's beyond my comprehension how someone could dismiss the Air because they just do NOT understand how iOS uses RAM. It's affect doubling would have on battery life....the unbelievable upgrade to the A7 SoC both computationally and graphically...there's also an on board 4mb memory cache built inside the SoC, a quadrupling from last year....read Anand.
Sorry..most of this wasn't directed at you MTL18. But the absolute misunderstanding on this thread....so very few folks complaining about safari crashing (I just bought a second Air on Monday and today I'm loading it up) when there are dozens of us owners since launch that have seen no such issue. I had a pair of crashes with 7.0.2..but since 7.0.3 nothing. No problems in Safari or any apps that have been optimized for iOS 7. These things flat fly. Anand has done a thorough review on both the Air and the Mini. Anyone having such extreme issues with crashing really ought to consider the fact they got a bad unit. It's bound to happen when a product is mass produced
Again....as an owner of each unit, you could've told me this one has 8GB, I'd have believed you. Apple should've never allowed the word 'memory crash' or lack of memory or memory shutdown in their logs. That's not what's happening at all. iOS takes extremely good care of the alloted memory and developers are developing for a single system...one with 1GB of RAM. Most are still aiming at A5/6 compatibility with 512mb or RAM. That's the population center of iOS.
Again....read Anand's review. Would it be nice to have 2GB? Maybe...I've no idea because I've yet to see these bugs being talked about....and we use ours hard. I certainly don't want double the RAM at the expense of form factor, battery life or heat/price/or the FTW over Android devices BS.
If anything, over the years Apple has proven time and time again their efficiency with RAM. Half the amount was comparable to double in a Windows machine (2 va 4GB for example). Same with iOS. Without a thick TouchWiz frosted layer of Java to cut through for usability, Apple doesn't need to pull samsung tricks to make their phone or tab work.
IOS efficiency has nothing to do with this. It's all about the size of the application data on which OS has no effect.
This isn't true. The OS has everything to do with both stability and efficiency. Without it, app developers wouldn't have filled our choices with more than ever in computer history....on a phone or tablet! Are there bad apps with bad finding and/or data? I'm sure. But since the releases of iOS 7 and XCode 5(.02), a developer need not be lazy to update their code to the 64bit and A8 instruction sets. Apple had made it seamless and relatively quick to pull off
The downside of this is Apple loses sales to more discriminating customers who will wait for better specs like myself, just bought a $119 Asus tab with 1GB ram. No way I'll pay $500+ for an underspec'd machine!
That's $119 wasted. To call the new iPad Air, rMini or iPhone 5s 'underspec'd machines' is ignorance at its finest. These are the first chips from an OEM built from ground up with their own instruction sets, optimized specifically to their OS/UI....with mind blowing, objective data measurements to back up these claims. These dual core 1.3/1.4GHz chips are faster than any and all of the current quad (& 8 core) chips Qualcomm is producing. Performing I parity with BayTrail...these are some bad ass little chips
That ASUS you bought....sorry, but other than surfing it's not going to provide a small percentage of the enjoyment an 'underspec'd' iPad will
Are these specific websites that are causing the problem? I have a new iPad Air and it seems fine both in Safari, and the many other apps that I use on a daily basis. And I'm not sure that you're sufficiently informed to be able to diagnose the problem as "due to constrained 1GB RAM".
I agree and I concur. Don't read to much into these comments. If indeed this was an issue with the stock browser on the newest iPad, the wold wide media would be up in arms. Every review site on the web wouldn't have come to the same conclusion. And you're right. Those that can speak intelligently about this diagnosis aren't hanging out at MR. They're designing the A8
Exactly. It's the lowest specs at the highest possible price that the market can bear. Since Apple pushes the CPU so much, it's compelled to upgrade the CPU. But other than that? It's lowest specs possible.
Again. Horse pucky! Read Anand's review. It's the fastest tablet on the market. With class leading display and double the performance do last year's iPad 4. It's a significantly bigger update than 'CPU'. BTW, these are SoCs. The CPU, GPU and it's IO to memory and storage are built to the system on a chip. It's a ground up redesign, sporting the first true 64bit architecture. Hardly the lowest specs possible. Maybe the highest specs possible would be significantly more accurate. As that's the actual truth
At the cost of poor user experience? because jittery interface, frequent website reloads and crashes are not exactly hallmarks of the Apple user experience, AFAIK. If limiting ram does indeed lead to an inferior overall experience for what happens to be their flagship product, at a time when competition is really heating up, then this is an example of incredibly poor and short sighted planning. This is very unlike Apple!
This is very unlike my (& about 10million other iPad Air owners) experience as well. Kinda embellished, don't ya think! Or, are you not an actual owner? Just someone regurgitating what they've read in forums. Competition isn't heating up it just got TORCHED by an unbelievable release from Apple. They're all now in an all out, 24/7, overnight race to get 64bit chips ready for 2014
Congrats, you seem to be the proud owner of a unique device: No jittery interface, no reloads and no crashes.
I've got a pair of them. No jittery interface. No reloads. No crashes. Looks like most in the thread are in agreement.
Guys everybody knows that the Air is a worthless piece of garbage. It's just whether you're able to put up with it for a year until you can buy one that actually *works*. Personally, I''m going to wait until next year when a better model is released to upgrade from my 3. I've had crashes and problems with iOS7 just like the rest of us, but I can still browse and watch TV on it which is good enough for me.
The 3 is garbage (I owned one and got rid of it on Craigslist the day the 4 came oh). The Air is exactly, 180° opposite of garbage. It's the best tablet on the market bar none. Have fun waiting. Selling your 3 now will help tremendously to finance your Air. Wait another year and the secret will be out. The 3 is a 2 in retina sheep clothing.
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Because iOS 7 in iPad 3 and 4 is not the same as iPad Air. One won't run on the other.
Your assuming it's the hardware.
iOS 7 is the same on every device. The only difference IS the hardware and the limitations iOS 7 puts on the hardware it's installed on
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