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Indeed, but understand that it can often be cheaper to let the most discriminating consumers.

Let's say the extra cost to meet your requirements is $5 per unit, and let's say maybe one person in a hundred actually does NOT buy the device and buys something else. To break even, Apple would have to add $5 cost for each of 99 units in order to convince you to buy. I bet they're just fine losing that one sale vs. adding $495 cost across the other 99 units.

Obviously this is a very simplistic example, but the general truth holds; not every potential customer is worth getting.

Exactly. It's the lowest specs at the highest possible price that the market can bear. Since Apple pushes the CPU so much, it's compelled to upgrade the CPU. But other than that? It's lowest specs possible.
 
Why wait for iOS 7.1? Magically software is gonna fix ram limitations? I see how all you guys think. No wonder apple makes billions. Give you gimped RAM, gimped color gamut displays, yet you guys line up to buy them.

I voted with my wallet! NO THANKS. iPad 4 is still great. Will save up for next model 2014 with more ram.

No one said 7.1 would address the fact that IOS7 is not optimized for iPad.
 
I'm sure of two things:

1. iOS7 will evolve (7.1... 8.0, etc.)

2. new iPads will come out, one day they will have more ram.

As I am one of the people annoyed by safari's behavior thus far (and to note, this doesn't happen to me with other apps, I think one game crashed to home for me once, so it's probably just safari's bits that need some tweaking) the iPad Air is so far and away above the competition when it comes to overall user experience that this annoyance doesn't stop me from using it obsessively everyday, I just hope it gets sorted out sooner rather than later.

At this point you couldn't pay me to return it, I'm too dependent on the device and platform for my everyday wants and needs. If you made me go to android I'd cry like a baby, been there done that and not going back. (to think I could have had an iPad 2 instead of a Moto Xoom angers me, I made that choice based on specs alone and I'll not do that again..)

If Apple said sorry, Safari will crash to the home screen on average once a day until a new iPad comes out, or for 6 months until we get the bits sorted out, I'd say Apple, that's really annoying but I'm keeping mine anyway.

Sure, I could stick with an iPad 4, I did that for 2 or 3 days and realized the value proposition was silly for me. I like the feel of the 4 better, but the usability of the air, the one handed hold while the other types and speed, you just can't beat it.

I hope the OP went to a 4 or a 3.

You can't play the spec game with iOS vs android, it's about the experience at the end of the day and IMHO nothing really comes close at this time. Believe me, I started on android (an Evo, a Nexus S, a Galaxy S2 (biggest crappiest phone I've ever used in my entire life), a Xoom, a Google TV, etc).
 
Exactly. It's the lowest specs at the highest possible price that the market can bear. Since Apple pushes the CPU so much, it's compelled to upgrade the CPU. But other than that? It's lowest specs possible.

At the cost of poor user experience? because jittery interface, frequent website reloads and crashes are not exactly hallmarks of the Apple user experience, AFAIK. If limiting ram does indeed lead to an inferior overall experience for what happens to be their flagship product, at a time when competition is really heating up, then this is an example of incredibly poor and short sighted planning. This is very unlike Apple!
 
Guys everybody knows that the Air is a worthless piece of garbage. It's just whether you're able to put up with it for a year until you can buy one that actually *works*. Personally, I''m going to wait until next year when a better model is released to upgrade from my 3. I've had crashes and problems with iOS7 just like the rest of us, but I can still browse and watch TV on it which is good enough for me.
 
Either that, or you're misunderstanding RAM. Do apps crash on a MacBook Air with 4GB of RAM and not on a MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM? No.

Should've just waited for iOS 7.1, huh?

mac OS has a swap file, hence it doesn't crash as it can swap in/out. i don't believe iOS devices have this, hence the low memory issues.

as for waiting for iOS 7.1:
1. why shouldn't the op be able to use the device as intended straight away after purchase?
2. they may be able to fix memory leaks, but do you know for a fact that a swap file is being added to iOS? because according to your understanding this is what is going to fix the issue.
 
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But that wouldn't explain why 5-6 tabs could be open on a 32-bit iOS 7 iPad 4 without crashing, but only 1-2 on the iPad Air. For what it's worth, I have lots more tabs open on my iPhone 5s than I ever did on the 5 (partly because iOS 7 eliminated the 8 tab limit on the iPhone) and it's as stable as any other iPhone I've ever had.

Because iOS 7 in iPad 3 and 4 is not the same as iPad Air. One won't run on the other.

Your assuming it's the hardware.
 
And you want me to count a buggy website as a crash?

When a program receives bad input (buggy web page) and crashes, the fault is with the program, not the user or web page developer. If I entered a "T" into a calculator app and it crashed, it is the calculator app's developer's fault.
 
When a program receives bad input (buggy web page) and crashes, the fault is with the program, not the user or web page developer. If I entered a "T" into a calculator app and it crashed, it is the calculator app's developer's fault.

Ummmmm, ok. So bad HTML or JavaScript code is the browsers fault. Got it. :rolleyes:
 
I'm not an engineer but you sound correct. I don't have this annoying issue with my other 32bit iPads...the iPad AIR is perfect, however. Just know they (apple) will release a more ram model next year...just can't vote for this one now :(

Ok so what 2 websites were you visiting that crashes all iPads and exposes a major flaw in the ipad air?

We can test it for you.

My iphone 5s and ipad mini with retina handle several tabs with no probs.

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Exactly. It's the lowest specs at the highest possible price that the market can bear. Since Apple pushes the CPU so much, it's compelled to upgrade the CPU. But other than that? It's lowest specs possible.

It's funny that other manufacturers have to over clock their ultra-spec'd devices anytime a benchmark test is detected and they still perform worse than apples 'lowest spec' devices.
 
Compared to nearly every other tablet on the market with 2-3 gobs of ram, the iPad Air simply flies. I guess I don't feel the need to pay attention to the specs, especially when everything just works so well. Is there any way to tell whether more ram would improve the end user experience any at this point? I can't imagine there is. It all seems like "spec"ulation to me.

If you're voting with your wallet, what in the world did you buy instead? Is there any tablet that comes remotely close to the iPad Air out there on the market right now?
 
I've had my rMini for five days and have not had a single low memory crash, I usually have four tabs open and never close any apps ( since iOS does this for you as needed ).

Is this issue only a problem for certain Airs?

Are there any Airs that are on 7.0.4 that are having memory management issues?
 
Ummmmm, ok. So bad HTML or JavaScript code is the browsers fault. Got it. :rolleyes:

If you aren't a software developer then it is understandable that you have embraced such an ignorant position.

If incorrect HTML crashes a browser, then the browser was not coded correctly. There is no HTML function that instructs a browser to abnormally terminate so any browser that crashes did not handle the HTML code correctly.
 
If you aren't a software developer then it is understandable that you have embraced such an ignorant position.

If incorrect HTML crashes a browser, then the browser was not coded correctly. There is no HTML function that instructs a browser to abnormally terminate so any browser that crashes did not handle the HTML code correctly.

I'd debate this you, but this seems like a lost cause. If a browser could handle every wacky code combination out there, it would be fantastic. And if you were a real software developer you would know there is no such thing as perfect code.

Let me know when you develop the perfect browser that can handle anything the internet throws at it. I think Google, Microsoft and Mozilla will want to hire you. :rolleyes:
 
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