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The iTunes Store is a frickin lag fest. They're just bloating it to the extreme now.

Or do I need an i-Series processor to run it now....
It's faster than 9 was for me on a MacBook with C2D.

Just shedded about 100mb of useless files off from iTunes 10 with xslimmer app. Now, I have about 40mb total on iTunes so that's pretty cool. Here's the snapshot tho.
Yeah, but does it still work and what did it get rid of?

So... i can't have the normal list view with the album art anymore? I have quite a lot of EPs (and singles) with 4 songs and can't show their album art anymore in list view. Wasting space is good to make things less cluttered and ugly.

I also don't like the grey icons, takes away some usability, now I have to read the damn things again. I actually wouldn't use iTunes at all if there was another working way to sync my iPhone.
You can it's just not enabled by default. Go to View > Always Show Artwork.
 
Perhaps this was mentioned before, but the big Oops with Ping (outside the fact that you can't get rid of it from the sidebar), would seem to be that it's one account, one ping. Unless I'm missing something obvious?

A family of four--mom, dad and the two teens--use one credit card under one account for downloading iTunes. If all four want to set up "pings" for their with their particular circle of friends, focusing on their particular music...they would seem to be outta luck.

From what I can see, one account gets you one Ping under one name. :p

Agreed, this is definitely a problem for me if this is how it works. I'd prefer my wife's terrible taste in music (Katy Perry? Really???) not be attributed to me just because we share the same iTunes purchase account. :p

Steve Jobs using Lady Gaga as the feature artist to promote Ping should be a glaring example of how pointless it is.

Just saying....
:eek:

Amen. That Lady Gaga video he showed in his presentation was truly cringeworthy. I really thought Steve had more taste. Actually, I think I detected a bit of a painful cringe from Steve himself after that portion of the demo. I imagine he was thinking "Why did I agree to this???"

The only "music business personality" (note I didn't say musician) more desperate for attention than Lady Gaga is...Katy Perry. :(
 
Amen. That Lady Gaga video he showed in his presentation was truly cringeworthy. I really thought Steve had more taste. Actually, I think I detected a bit of a painful cringe from Steve himself after that portion of the demo. I imagine he was thinking "Why did I agree to this???"

The only "music business personality" (note I didn't say musician) more desperate for attention than Lady Gaga is...Katy Perry. :(
OH SNAP!

I was thinking the same thing when watching it. I completely agree that Gaga is no musician. She's more like moving art than good music and the arts not that good. I'm perplexed to how she's become so popular.
 
The vertical buttons and the ugly icon are actually the least of iTunes 10's problems. When in the "Album List" view, all albums that have less than "x" tracks
Steve explained it in the keynote: it's 5 tracks and the reason you don't get album art for singles is because there's not enough room.

One song one album is:

One-hit-wonder.....album

Several songs form the same album is:

Big hits.....album
...............album
...............album
...............album
...............album

The logic was, why repeat the album title five or more times when there's room to fit the actual image of the album? So that's why a single song from a single album has no picture (no room), but five or more from the same album does get a picture.
 
Ok. So how do I get rid of the album art view ?
It's totally throwing off the overall feel of everything to me.

I much prefer either not having it at all or it piping up in the side bar like it used to.

Is that an option in 10???

Still trying to get this figured out??
 
You know, apart from the UI changes it's really not a bad update. Granted I won't be using any of the new features but it sure is a lot faster on the 64-bit version of windows 7.
 
Still trying to get this figured out??
Go to View>List

That, at least, is an option. I suspect that iTunes 10.1 will be out soon with more options, like darkening the font and hiding Ping. ;)
I, too, suspect that List view is your only option now.

Something else I noticed today, in List view you can FINALLY move the track name field. That always bugged me as I wanted it to be organzied, Artist | Album | Track. Now you can do that.
 
Does iTunes 10 run any faster than the previous version? If I don't care about the social networking, is there any reason to upgrade?

It synced my ipod and ipod touch 4 times as fast including app updates.
 
Does iTunes 10 run any faster than the previous version? If I don't care about the social networking, is there any reason to upgrade?

Performance seems alot better in all aspects of the program EXCEPT for navigating the iTunes Store. It got very laggy to scroll through the store :confused: wtf.
 
Agreed - I'd love to be able to edit that side bar, the same as my finder windows. I'd remove everything except for music and movies from the library list, remove ping and purchased from the store and hide genius all together. I can't believe that this new "hide" option that appears doesn't even do that, it's just replacing the disclosure triangle, with the annoying heading still in place. I haven't hidden "Genius", I'm still seeing the word "genius".

The other tweak I'd like to see is the ability to select multiple playlists to delete/move around in folders - one at a time is a PITA! Also would prefer to not have playlists automatically sorted alphabetically - I wanna drag them into an order that suits me, the same as my real world music collection...

Check the first page of the iTunes Preferences. I cleaned mine up a bit just now. Only things you can't remove are Music and iTunes Store (pity on the last, I never use it).

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jW
 
Eh?

I disagree strongly. Apple should only pay attention to the low-powered masses when designing software? That's ridiculous. You don't design, manufacture, and market your flagship machine only to have it rendered useless by your software team because you don't sell that many. You REWARD your best customers with a better product and better performance they paid for and expect. You DON'T penalize them.

And no, the speed of CD import bottleneck is not on the CD drive speed, it is on iTunes... which is EXTREMELY slow in processing the files after each track is imported. In fact, the CD drive is WAITING on the computer to finish processing before going on to the next track. As for the number of people importing CDs, first you say Apple only supports the masses, now you say Apple only supports the trends that aren't dropping. Well, guess what... until iTunes music downloads are available in Apple Lossless, those of us who care about quality will continue to buy and rip CDs, and not purchase from the iTunes Store.

To sum up, Apple should RESPECT and REWARD its customers who spend TOP DOLLAR on its FLAGSHIP PRODUCTS by upscaling their performance accordingly. In this example, that means the ones who rip CDs in Apple Lossless on multi-core machines and manage hundreds of thousands of tracks.

Part of it is the mechanical drive mechanism: it's not so much the software as you state. Yes there's a pause while the post-processing (mainly slotting whatever song you just encoded into the proper part of the database) but much of it is waiting for the superdrive to say "I'm ready".

The drive mechanisms honestly just aren't as fast as the ones as used in the past.

I suspect part of this is due to heat and noise generated by the faster mechanisms and part of it might be cost.

The drive in my G5 2.5 dual tower is a lot faster at reading discs than my Corei7 iMac.

I'm told it could be faster yet because it had special firmware to slow it down so it would be quiet (you know how SOME Mac users are about noise). It was also flashed to be single layer even though hardware-wise it's a dual layer drive also to keep it quiet.

But The Corei7 imac can cross-convert insanely faster than the G5 can so...

I do agree it would be nice if iTunes was multithreaded and multicore aware but remember this is still basically Casady & Greene's SoundJam MP with a candy coated skin on it.

Adding all of these "creeping features" like social networks just makes it harder to re-write it from scratch as a new application.
 
There's almost nothing that I like about this update:

-performance is equally sluggish as iTunes 9.x on a <2 year old iMac
-what on earth have they done with the aqua close, minimise, maximise buttons
-why has it all gone monochrome. Certainly more difficult to distinguish the different categories in the left hand panel
-volume slider looks weird compared with the old one. what is that funny nubbin supposed to look like?
-the new iTunes application icon - you would never know that Apple has some of the best icon designers in the industry

but most of all I'm upset by the fact that each iteration of iTunes goes further away from Apple's UI guidelines. Why is one of the most popular iLife applications (and one known by most Windows users too) constantly being toyed with in terms of look and feel. This should be a flagship application, not a plaything.
 
I wonder if Apple is going to chuck the iTunes name soon. I am thinking that within the next 2 years, it will be renamed iPlay. The reason I say that is AirTunes was renamed AirPlay and the reason was it isn't just about music. Well neither is iTunes.
 
Yes...

performance is massively improved here, especially launch time (my library is just over 280 GB)

Agree. My iTunes database is over 165 gigs on another network share via gigabit and it feels like it's directly on the machine now.

I may move it to the machine as if it could be even faster I'd be a happier camper.

Dunno about some of you but I'm a musician and at least a good third to a fourth of the music is my own which is very easy to catalog and keep at my fingertips in this app.

But having everything else be this faster is just a good deal for me.
 
Wowie, wow, wow. I never though iTunes was sluggish, but iTunes 10 is noticeably faster.

Scrolling is smooth, no crashes/hiccups, the store is faster to browse, the mini artwork/player is cool too. I got say I love the grey icons.

I don't find it necessary to have applications lit up like Christmas trees. I understand that are many kinds of users. Some probably camp out in iTunes all day long with the app open, or for hours at a time with the app open. Not me. I pick a playlist, hide it, and do other things. JM2C.

The volume knob is a bit "odd" looking to me. Non-issue I guess.
 
I'm perplexed to how she's become so popular.
Every five-to-ten years there is, in music, a new blond female singer who becomes popular with the incoming, mainstream generation that's reached a certain age. Back in the 80's this was Madonna, who was amazing in how long she lasted, and did so only because she found ways to update and renew herself. But most of the time, such women last about five years (give or take); then there is a year or two down time, and then some new blond lady appears who becomes very popular and no one who isn't a fan can understand why.

They are, essentially, a performer/fashion model/stripper rather than artist. Their talent at singing/songwriting doesn't matter so much as their ability to put on a good show and wear "interesting" fashions.
 
I wonder if Apple is going to chuck the iTunes name soon. I am thinking that within the next 2 years, it will be renamed iPlay. The reason I say that is AirTunes was renamed AirPlay and the reason was it isn't just about music. Well neither is iTunes.
I doubt the iTunes name will go the way of AirTunes. Unlike AirTunes, iTunes is too well known. You change a name when it's not getting anyone's attention or is getting negative attention. You don''t change it when it's become a well-known and well-liked brand.
 
I doubt the iTunes name will go the way of AirTunes. Unlike AirTunes, iTunes is too well known. You change a name when it's not getting anyone's attention or is getting negative attention. You don''t change it when it's become a well-known and well-liked brand.

I wouldn't be so sure. It very well could be a possibility at some point. I've thought this in the past, it's been a long time since this has been just an app for "tunes."
 
I wonder if Apple is going to chuck the iTunes name soon. I am thinking that within the next 2 years, it will be renamed iPlay. The reason I say that is AirTunes was renamed AirPlay and the reason was it isn't just about music. Well neither is iTunes.

This keeps getting brought up. They'd have to buy out the name from everyone currently using it. Not to mention that iPlay sounds like a kids toy.
 
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