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iTunes 7.3 with Custom Ringtones

benspratling said:
Calm down, dude. Might I suggest your problem might not be the noise? What kind of reaction do you have when the ice cream truck drives by?
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Probably the reaction any good citizen would have: To run it off the road. Ice cream from the truck is too damn expensive, the ex-con drivers probably shouldn't partake in the selling of sweets to small children. That's just asking for trouble.

Reduce noise pollution, protect our children, keep them healthy: Run your local ice cream trucks off the road!

-Clive
 
If it's true, it's cool with me.

And we have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to base this on (except the photo of a tab in a presentation). At this point we have as much or more evidence to suggest we'll have 80GB iPhones instead of 8GB.

Now we get a photo that says "one of these tabs could represent ringtones." Uh huh, ok. Well, I'll wait until Friday.

However, if it's true, it's fine with me. I fine with paying $1.06 to get my ringtone. One tiny little issue that's not a show-stopper, my ringtone is 36 seconds long - I usually answer it before then. If we do indeed get word we can have our own custom ringtones - then I'm dow with that. I guess I just need to get my music own iTunes so I can use songs I wrote and recorded myself...

If you MacRumors "demigods" would please give us a little more info about where you heard this?
 
liberty4all said:
This is STUPID! Just allow us to use any songs (mp4/aac, mp3, whatever) we have on the phone!

Is Apple getting greedy?
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Seeing as how all of the carriers in the US sell ring tones, if Apple is charging for them it is because:
a) AT&T required it to allow Apple to use them and perhaps at&t a cut of the revenue
b) it is required by law for copyright purposes
c) if everyone else is doing it, why shouldn't Apple make some money at it too. And thankfully they will not charge the $2.50 that sprint is charging.

The way that cellular providers cripple phones by locking them is shameful! Is Apple going to follow suit? Let's hope not...

Am I going to pay for a ring tone? No way.
 
benspratling said:
Calm down, dude. Might I suggest your problem might not be the noise? What kind of reaction do you have when the ice cream truck drives by?
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I would much rather hear a ringtone than the ice cream truck. In my neighborhood the ice cream truck plays a horrible loop of Pop Goes the Weasel. It is just some guy that can barely pass the health inspection selling crappy ice cream and preying on people's desire to be part of a novelty. Since my neighborhood is full of kids, he drives really slow past my house repeatedly.
 
Clive At Five said:
Probably what any good citizen would do: Run it off the road. Ice cream from the truck is too damn expensive, and the ex-con drivers are probably shouldn't partake in the selling of sweets to small children. That's just asking for trouble.

Reduce noise pollution, protect our children, keep them healthy: Run your local ice cream trucks off the road!

-Clive
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I am so glad this guy isn't my dad! (And that I'm not an ice cream truck driver in his neighborhood!)
 
Mydel said:
Up till now I always used Nokia phones and you can use ANY .mp3 as your ringtone. It can be a song, sound or whatever you can come up with. And its FREE. I would never ever buy a ringtone! And shame on apple if they are gonna charge for it:mad:
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Motorola phones are the same way. As long as I do the cutting, I can use whatever I want. I hope the iPhone is the same way, and they're just charging the 99¢ for the ability to chop it.
 
To summarize:

1) We don't know IF custom ringtones will be usable. Early evidence suggests no, but some evidence indicates something is in the works.
2) iTunes may or may not sell ringtones in 7.3. We don't know yet.
3) IF Apple is not allowing custome ringtones, we don't know why. It could be they just don't support it yet, it could be the record labels got them on some technicality, it could be AT&T wants a cut, or it could be Apple's own greed. Or it could be coming soon in some update, just some thing they ran out of time to implement.

So, basically, we're all arguing about hypothetical scenarios.
 
Padriac said:
To summarize:

1) We don't know IF custom ringtones will be usable. Early evidence suggests no, but some evidence indicates something is in the works.
2) iTunes may or may not sell ringtones in 7.3. We don't know yet.
3) IF Apple is not allowing custome ringtones, we don't know why. It could be they just don't support it yet, it could be the record labels got them on some technicality, it could be AT&T wants a cut, or it could be Apple's own greed. Or it could be coming soon in some update, just some thing they ran out of time to implement.

So, basically, we're all arguing about hypothetical scenarios.
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Very, well. I shall religiously type www.macrumors.com five times a day to see if my prayer has been answered. :) even I'm getting tired of this argument now...
 
First off, you're all jumping around without knowing the details. Calm down and hold on. Please?

Here in the US, that's changing.... why give for free when you can charge for it???
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We live in a free market society my friend. This isn't directed at you though; sorry to single you out but though :).

If the market will bear it and people will pay it what the music companies, Apple, and AT&T (not to mention every other carrier) is doing is absolutely fine and acceptable.

These companies don't exist solely for your pleasure (not just directed towards you). They have a duty to their shareholders, employees, and everyone else that has a stake in the company. Quit complaining that they charge you for a ringtone.

Quit acting as if you deserve handouts in life. Woe is me! I must complain about a ninety-nine cent ringtone to use on my six hundred dollar phone! How will I come up with the ninety-nine cents?

It is their right to charge you for that ringtone, and people will pay it - so what's so bad about that? Absolutely nothing at all. Besides, as has been shown, it is a bargain compared to every other carrier out there.

pyramid6 said:
As others have posted, copyright laws in the US are wack.
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They're wack?

Protecting one's intellectual property is wack? What kind of statement is that? Please elaborate.

Mydel said:
Its about principles. Some people dont like to be ripped off for something they already own. If YOU like to pay...its your problem
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You do not own the music.

Instead, you purchased the right to listen to it under the restrictions set forth in the iTMS Terms of Service.

There is a difference between the two.
 
Peace said:
You will be able to purchase ringtones from iTunes 7.3 starting Friday for $.99 just like most songs.

You can use any song YOU have.That is, one that isn't DRM to make a ringtone.If you wish to make a ringtone from a DRM song it will be $.99.
The orange icon on the left.Actually two orange icons.One is in your library and one is in the iPhone device listing.They represent ringtones.


You heard it here third or fourth ;)
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In iTunes 7.2, the orange icon is Audiobooks, which we know are supported in the iPhone.


Royale w/cheese said:
This is just funny to me. I am going to buy a bunch of ringtones and have people call me and charge admission. Get stage security and everything. :)
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Let me know, just to make the YouTube video of the event funnier I'll attend if you're nearby.
 
ARPU is key...

It seems to me that in order for Apple to get the iPhone onto the market at the price point that they were happy with, they had to engineer solutions that would guarantee the network operator visible and visibly simple and sustainable increases in Average Revenue Per User. This is the most important thing to the network obviously, as any significant increase in revenue from current users (not even counting the new customers) is very welcome and necessary for the company to declare themselves a continuing success - see /shareholders.

Lets look at who is getting what:

AT&T

  1. Lots of new customers due to the Steve Jobs effect. I'm not saying its a bad thing, but there are quite a few people out there who will go and buy anything Apple makes that they dont already have - to each their own hey?
  2. Lots of switchers due to the iPhone being a good product - and it is. Apple has quite a few 'firsts' in hardware engineering, but their Wow factor really comes in being able to repeatedly and consistently deliver a product whose appeal as a package is unmatched. They were not the first to make computers, computer displays, mice, music players or mobile phones, but what they have made has left others wondering the same thing time and time again - How come WE couldnt package it like THAT?!?
  3. Lots of users willing to pay the premuim to get the latest iPod (sort of), because lets face it, it's part of that iPhone :D :D :D
  4. Increased Revenue Per User, as the new device has OSX-based security features to slow if not stop the tide of people who keep network-hopping.
  5. Look at how the iPhone is purchased, then activated, then the features included, features excluded, and the sources of revenue present for AT&T and Apple.
  6. Look at the way the grey market has been left scratching it's head after realising that it can't do anything regarding worldwide distribution of this product unless someone hacks OSX in iPhone form, which would be almost as difficult as hacking OSX itself, would it not?

Apple

  1. Target audience with some who may not previously have considered it's products as a necessary purchase. People can live with a lot of things these days - their mobile phone, their music and the internet aren't three things that usually come to mind
  2. The value of exclusivity that comes with the price point that they're managing to set with AT&T in retailing the device - you can have it if you want but you gotta come and get it, at this price!
  3. Potentially bigger target audience for more Apple products or services /see iTones and iTunes
  4. Manageable distribution channel for the product - typically Apple business sense
  5. More critics please - coz when you're doing well, all noise is good noise :p

This device was not just made by Apple so that they could find something else to present to Mac users to keep them happy; this device also helps indicate the direction Apple wants to go. The iPod showed the world that Apple can make a device that can change fundamental business bases (100million devices later, its still desirable). They wanna make more money from more people out there - call it what it is - BUSINESS :D

I'm waiting to see what happens here in the UK - i love the iPhone for what it is, which is hopefully another testament to the engineering strengths that Apple posess. But i won't pay through the nose for it - it's something i'd want, not something i need, and that's my bottom line...

CaPo
 
Thomas S said:
First off, you're all jumping around without knowing the details. Calm down and hold on. Please?



We live in a free market society my friend. This isn't directed at you though; sorry to single you out but though :).

If the market will bear it and people will pay it what the music companies, Apple, and AT&T (not to mention every other carrier) is doing is absolutely fine and acceptable.

These companies don't exist solely for your pleasure (not just directed towards you). They have a duty to their shareholders, employees, and everyone else that has a stake in the company. Quit complaining that they charge you for a ringtone.

Quit acting as if you deserve handouts in life. Woe is me! I must complain about a ninety-nine cent ringtone to use on my six hundred dollar phone! How will I come up with the ninety-nine cents?

It is their right to charge you for that ringtone, and people will pay it - so what's so bad about that? Absolutely nothing at all. Besides, as has been shown, it is a bargain compared to every other carrier out there.



They're wack?

Protecting one's intellectual property is wack? What kind of statement is that? Please elaborate.



You do not own the music.

Instead, you purchased the right to listen to it under the restrictions set forth in the iTMS Terms of Service.

There is a difference between the two.
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Well put! I have friends who are musicians and write songs. One of the things that they are most paranoid about is someone finding and copying their song, then "making it big", thus not getting a penny for their creative effort...
 
I get free ringtones on my current AT&T phone, just send em over on bluetooth after chopping the file down to size. I'd guess iPhone can do BT file transfer too, to a different location on the drive. We'
ll see.
 
gkarris said:
okay, everyone, please quit the FUD.

I'm in my T-Mobile SDA phone right now, under phone sounds, in the "ring tones" box, clicking on it to see my choices, MY MP3's DO NOT APPEAR....

Get a grip, you will be charged for ringtones here on out...
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You can get around that just like some smart people will get around most if not all of the software limitations in the iPhone.
 
oogje said:
Funny, that's my ringtone.
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You shouldn't have said that. Now you'll have to go under some kind of federal protection... ;)

It would be neat to allow custom ringtones, but I won't hold my breath. I'm a bit fed up with ringtones. A SE phone which someone I know is using to hold her off for an iPhone had a ton of ringtones on it, including several which were purchased. Every one was annoying. There was no "normal" ringtone. I think this is a travesty: there should always be a ringtone which sounds like a normal landline phone's ring.
 
Padriac said:
80 is for one line, but a family plan requires at least 2, so 80 + 30 = 110.

Apple's listing is slightly misleading, but note the fine print mentions this.
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yes, but you don't NEED to have two iPhones...you can still have a family plan with one iPhone and one regular phone for $89
 
I really don't think it's that outrageous of a price considering the price of ringtones from the main cell providers -- both Apple and AT&T are going to make a pretty penny on this move (if it ends up being true)
 
The thing is, I'd like to be able to use the free little snippets of things that are released on the web. For instance, on XBox 360's Major Nelson's blog, he released the files for the achievement unlocked sound and the agility orb from crackdown. They are cool little sounds that I use as text message and voice mail alerts, and perfectly free to use. So Apple is basically blocking me from using those, or anything else that I create myself for free. I'm still buying the phone for sure, hopefully there will be some work around, like burning a purchased song and re-ripping it, something they didn't advertise, but also didn't stop.
 
MacinDoc said:
You can rip and burn non-protected commercial CDs and distribute them with your computer, and you can make a video of a movie showing in your local theater using an HD video recorder, but the fact that you can do these things does not make it legal to do so.
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To me, this is actually the biggest problem with DRM. It creates the expectation that what is illegal is impossible, ergo that what is possible is legal. It's only one stop further to the confusion that what is possible is right (good, just, etc.). DRM is the corporate, technological "legislation" of morality and the resulting decreasing sense of personal moral responsibility is troubling...
 
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