iTunes 7.3 with Custom Ringtones

[Padriac]

IF it is indeed true that you can't load your own songs as ringtones, it is likely that Apple's deal with the record labels was that the iTunes software would not allow the transfer of songs to phones as ringtones. This explains why even songs ripped from CDs won't be allowed: the limitation is on iTunes itself.

The reason other phones do it and the iPhone doesn't is that other phone manufacturers aren't also music distributors (except Sony, I guess...)

 

[eastcoastsurfer]

okay, everyone, please quit the FUD.

I'm in my T-Mobile SDA phone right now, under phone sounds, in the "ring tones" box, clicking on it to see my choices, MY MP3's DO NOT APPEAR....

Get a grip, you will be charged for ringtones here on out...

Depending on your phone service provider they can shut off features of the phone which can/will force you to buy ring tones from them. My sony phone can play any mp3 I put on the phone as a ring tone. Friends of mine have purchased unlocked phones from ebay which can also play any mp3 they place on the phone as a ringtone. Of course you can only buy unlocked phones/providers that use SIM cards...

Paying anything for a ring tone is dumb. I hope the phone companies start to get bit in the a$$ just like the music companies. If you keep squeezing your customers eventually they start to figure out other alternatives or other much cheaper providers start popping up.

 

[gkarris]

Damn, I'm good.

I pegged the $0.99 thing and everything.

Bow to me.

-Clive

ooooh, any predictions about the iMac and Mini?

 

[Claytoniss]

I hope its not just a way for people to make ringtones, hopefully its not some coded crap to convert it into an iPhone only file.

I usually make all my ringtones from songs I own, I use garage band and itunes only. Then blue tooth them over to my moto slvr. easy as pie! is that legal?

 

[gkarris]

I hope its not just a way for people to make ringtones, hopefully its not some coded crap to convert it into an iPhone only file.

I usually make all my ringtones from songs I own, I use garage band and itunes only. Then blue tooth them over to my moto slvr. easy as pie! is that legal?

not anymore...

 

[Peace]

I think I can make out what the orange icon on the left says.

Ringtones.

Makes sense too..You have Ringtones in your library and on the iPhone.

I wanna know what the 8th tab is for though.

 

[pyramid6]

As others have posted, copyright laws in the US are wack.

The more information that comes out, the less the iPhone can't do. This morning, the iPhone couldn't do ringtones, now it can. I wonder what it will be able to do tomorrow.

Seriously, IM, flash, and third party apps are about the only things still missing.

P6

 

[dartzorichalcos]

Can't wait until it's released. The ringtone feature should be free though.

 

[wmealer]

install ringtones?? i think you mean convert mp3's to ringtone files for free.

This is exactly what I've done on the few custom ringtones I have on my (soon-to-be-my-wife's) Motorola SLVR . It's just a matter of taking any unprotected mp3 and re-encoding it to a 64Mbps mp3, then putting it in the correct location on the phone via USB. But whether Apple allows any file transfers outside of iTunes is another story altogether. My SLVR still shows up as a drive on the desktop even if iTunes is closed. Don't coun't on it with the iPhone though.

 

[Clive At Five]

More details


When a song is selected for conversion, a "garageband like" interface comes up to allow you to pic the 30 second clip you want.

Oh dear... Wood-paneled and all?!

Aside from fade in/out and minor cutting and pasting, I don't see much of a need for an elaborate interface. That being said, let's hope it's not so GarageBand-like.

-Clive

 

[Manic Mouse]

IF it is indeed true that you can't load your own songs as ringtones, it is likely that Apple's deal with the record labels was that the iTunes software would not allow the transfer of songs to phones as ringtones. This explains why even songs ripped from CDs won't be allowed: the limitation is on iTunes itself.

The reason other phones do it and the iPhone doesn't is that other phone manufacturers aren't also music distributors (except Sony, I guess...)

I don't see why or how Apple would lets these two unrelated factors cripple each other. It's nothing to do with the iTMS if I load a track ripped from CD onto my phone for a ringtone. Where is iTMS in this process, and why should it stop it?

I hate corporate politics

 

[pufftissue]

So for a 30 second clip of a song that you've already bought once( and can listen to 30 sec for free in the itunes music store anyway,) you've got to pay the equivalent of another full-length song?

Makes sense to me.

Look, I understand that we're not supposed to get something for nothing, but with software available for free that can do the same thing, I'd rather see Apple chalk this "innovation" as part of the cost of doing business and keeping up with the times.

Not even drug companies charge you more if your medication dose is doubled. No, for most pills, it costs the same whether it's 10 mg or 20 mg. No need to stick it to you again.

 

[bignumbers]

Waiting for official info before getting pissed

I'm in the camp that charging for ringtones is just plain lame. On my Treo 650 (Sprint) I can install any MP3 or MIDI file.

I can see Apple charging to convert songs bought from the iTunes store, or selling them separately. Licensing, etc. I'd be mad at the music companies for this, not Apple.

But if I've made my own music in GarageBand I would be very upset if I had to pay just to install it on my phone.

I also agree that eventually, this "feature" will likely be hacked. I sure hope so.

 

[AppleMan101]

would they make me pay to make a ringtone out of music to which I own the performance rights to?

 

[FeralCat]

Even more to the point: what about other sound files that are not covered by copyright (or, are copyright by ME) that I want to use as a ringtone? Do I have to pay $0.99 to convert just any .wav to a ringtone? Urk. 3rd party software developer opportunity, I think...

 

[antpod]

How hard can this be to get around though? Don't you think it should be easy to get around it?

And just so you peeps don't forget this was all that was in the Itunes used in the Sync video

 

[Mydel]

Amazing. Some people will NEVER be satisfied.

How about this. Since the iPhone and Apple suck so bad, how about YOU go and use whatever you find acceptable! The complaining is ridiculous.

Its about principles. Some people dont like to be ripped off for something they already own. If YOU like to pay...its your problem

 

[tranced25]

Bit off topic.....

Sorry, I know this is a bit off topic, but the other threads seem to be a little dead.....

I was tooling around the AT&T website and noticed that the pricing for the family plans were about $29.00 more than what Apple quotes on their website.

700 mins for $109.00 (AT&T) vs. $80.00 apple: )

Did I miss something? Any insight?

 

[Padriac]

I don't see why or how Apple would lets these two unrelated factors cripple each other. It's nothing to do with the iTMS if I load a track ripped from CD onto my phone for a ringtone. Where is iTMS in this process, and why should it stop it?

I hate corporate politics

Well, it would be similar to the movie studios not wanting iTunes to allow for the ripping of DVDs lest they stop selling movies on iTunes. The two (DVD purchases and ITS content) seem to have nothing to do with each other, but to paranoid content provider they do.

Basically, the labels didn't want Apple to get clever and do something to circumvent the ringtone profit stream. Remember: the ITS deals were hammered before the iPhone was a glimmer in Jobs's eye: I'm sure he didn't care about ringtones back then.

 

[Manic Mouse]

Even more to the point: what about other sound files that are not covered by copyright (or, are copyright by ME) that I want to use as a ringtone? Do I have to pay $0.99 to convert just any .wav to a ringtone? Urk. 3rd party software developer opportunity, I think...

This will (hopefully) be hacked to bits when it comes out. And rightly so.

Is anyone else being driven crazy by DRM...?

 

[Counter]

No, in fact- Ringtone licensing was explicitly a separate deal when Apple began the iTunes music store. The record companies rely on ringtones sales as additional revenue....

Makes you wonder how record companies ever survived before ringtones were invented.

I wish theyd cost 99 DOLLARS. They are a blight on humanity. All phones should be set to permanent vibrate. Bloody noise pollution!!

People would still buy them. I think $200 would be about right. All proceeds to charity.

 

[Padriac]

Sorry, I know this is a bit off topic, but the other threads seem to be a little dead.....

I was tooling around the AT&T website and noticed that the pricing for the family plans were about $29.00 more than what Apple quotes on their website.

700 mins for $109.00 (AT&T) vs. $80.00 apple: )

Did I miss something? Any insight?

80 is for one line, but a family plan requires at least 2, so 80 + 30 = 110.

Apple's listing is slightly misleading, but note the fine print mentions this.

 

[Mydel]

Yes, you can do it, but if you are using mp3s of commercially distributed music, it is likely not a legal use of those files, depending on where you live.

You got to be kidding....I want someone to sue me over the use of the music I purchased legally

 

[AgingGeek]

I generally just like the standard ones, but it will tough to resist doing a conversion on "Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs" (Theme song from Frasier) for my ringtone...

 

[sananda]

I don't see why or how Apple would lets these two unrelated factors cripple each other. It's nothing to do with the iTMS if I load a track ripped from CD onto my phone for a ringtone. Where is iTMS in this process, and why should it stop it?

I hate corporate politics

it was probably quite hard work getting the record companies to agree to work with itunes and this is part of the price to be paid for the participation.