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iTunes 8.2.1 Reportedly Breaks Palm Pre Syncing

statik13 said:
oh Booooo! If this is true then Apple is going about things all wrong. They should encourage the Pre and any other phone or mp3 player to sync through iTunes. More sales for iTunes songs & movies plus more positive exposure for Apple.

I'm not saying give them full access to everything, but let them sync the basics like songs & podcasts.

Now instead of being looked at in a positive light Apple has alienated the Palm Pre crowd. :mad:
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+1 - Why alienate a potential customer? People buying Pres are buying them because they fit their needs better for various reasons, why not get revenue from the iTunes store?
 
If I had a Pre that would be the last time I ever updated iTunes. Keeping iTunes up to date is totally not worth losing compatibility, if they used the iTunes store then I guess they could resort to amazon or piracy. Either way Apple loses.
 
Same old story...

This is like Nintendo and their lockout chips, or Sega and their lockout chips on their cartridge video game systems, or HP and their ink-cartridge lockout chips, but with the added anti-trust issues that Apple is messing with if they actually succeed. Don't forget, Apple was already zinged by France over iTunes store.

This is the same crap you Apple fanboys would be flaming Microsoft over if they were the ones locking out competition.
 
booooooooo! God this bugs me. Good move apple, just be a bunch of dicks like Microsoft. I don't even have a palm pre and this annoys me.
 
Simple solution is not to upgrade to the new itunes or develop your own software/hack in the meantime.

Either way, it's more of a moral victory than anything else. Pre users aren't entitled to itunes compatibility and they arent obligated to update.

My friends recently bought Pre's and I advised not to upgrade to the next itunes unless they were assured of its compatibility. they turned off auto update and are happy with the current itunes. It will take some serious new functionalities to get itunes users to feel left out on updates.
 
neverfade said:
Seriously, Apple did all thge hard work with iTunes, and a company creates a product and think that they can just ride Apple's coat tails ?

C'mon - make your own software, you stupid idiots!
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If Apple made printers you'd be saying it would be OK for them to block Epson, Canon, and HP from being able to print.

Interoperability is not a bad thing and it's not stealing to make a product that works with another product.
 
statik13 said:
oh Booooo! If this is true then Apple is going about things all wrong. They should encourage the Pre and any other phone or mp3 player to sync through iTunes. More sales for iTunes songs & movies plus more positive exposure for Apple.

I'm not saying give them full access to everything, but let them sync the basics like songs & podcasts.

Now instead of being looked at in a positive light Apple has alienated the Palm Pre crowd. :mad:
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iTunes does not make Apple that much money, they use it as an added bonus if you buy their hardware. So opening up to others to piggy back off of Apples efforts is not an option for them.
 
parapup said:
So you are saying Apple is sitting quiet and letting Palm get away with stealing without permission because they are a charity non-profit organization?

It's more like - we all steal from each other, let's just do what we are here for - business. I am pretty sure Palm made a smart phone before Apple.
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hahaha probably they made a smart phone before Apple. It just says a lot that Apple didn't spend years and years on a line of phones that still suck.
 
iTunes automatically generates an XML file of all your songs and playlists--a file it doesn't even use itself--specifically so that NON-iTunes software can access that information in a standard way.

In other words, iTunes already supports 3rd-party access to your library--and the files themselves are just files, copyable anywhere. So Palm just needs to use the approved method: a separate app that accesses iTunes' database and then transfers the files, rather than a hack (however clever) for using the iTunes app directly.

I expect that this is what Palm will do, as has been done before, and that BOTH Apple and Pre owners will be fine with it in the end.
 
thegoldenmackid said:
And in five days Palm will come out with a new firmware update to fix this problem...
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and shortly after that, Apple will break it again :p Its going to be a silly cat and mouse game for the next few months.

The problem is, that if Apple totally changes the way sync works then the engineers who left Apple won't know anything about it. In the end, I think Palm is going to lose here.
 
Hurray for Apple and their proprietary, closed systems. Booooo to Microsoft and their proprietary closed systems!
 
statik13 said:
oh Booooo! If this is true then Apple is going about things all wrong. They should encourage the Pre and any other phone or mp3 player to sync through iTunes. More sales for iTunes songs & movies plus more positive exposure for Apple.

I'm not saying give them full access to everything, but let them sync the basics like songs & podcasts.

Now instead of being looked at in a positive light Apple has alienated the Palm Pre crowd. :mad:
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Apple doesn't care. They don't make that much revenue from sales of songs in iTunes.....it's all about the hardware!

-Kevin

edit: macfan70 beat me to it!
 
To all of you complaining and whining and defending Apple, what if Apple said that only their keyboards and mice would work with Mac? What if they said that only the $900 Cinema Display would work with a Mac? Would you be defending them?
 
How many useful features and bug fixes could Apple have included with 8.2.1 if they weren't spending time on this?

Pre syncing isn't hurting any of Apple's users, but maybe some unfixed bug is.
 
Amdahl said:
This is like Nintendo and their lockout chips, or Sega and their lockout chips on their cartridge video game systems, or HP and their ink-cartridge lockout chips, but with the added anti-trust issues that Apple is messing with if they actually succeed. Don't forget, Apple was already zinged by France over iTunes store.

This is the same crap you Apple fanboys would be flaming Microsoft over if they were the ones locking out competition.
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What judgment did Apple recieve in France?
 
Tallest Skil said:
I, for one, couldn't care less that I can't use .exe files on my computer.
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That's not what Microsoft did, they were trying to force people to use Internet Explorer in Windows, and the DOJ took them to the cleaners for it. Apple is trying to force people to use an iPhone/iPod in iTunes, and hopefully the DOJ will take them to the cleaners as well.
 
yg17 said:
To all of you complaining and whining and defending Apple, what if Apple said that only their keyboards and mice would work with Mac? What if they said that only the $900 Cinema Display would work with a Mac? Would you be defending them?
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So what? It used to be that way. Apple used to use an RJ11 style jack for their keyboards....then they used ADB. And wow, look at that, they had ADC for displays. Get over yourself. They can chose how to make their products, you can chose if you decide to use them.
 
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