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Windows 10s requires apps to come from the Windows Store. The current downloadable version of iTunes will not work.
That's not entirely accurate. The MS Store only is the low power version of Win10. I installed regular iTunes on a regular Win10 install just fine.
 
If this is a full rewrite of iTunes for UWP I'll understand the delays and I'll be absolutely thrilled when it comes out. If it's just Desktop Bridge on the garbage iTunes for Windows that exists now then this shouldn't be taking so long (and I really don't care anyway).

iTunes runs on macOS and Windows 7-10. UWP is Windows 10 only. There's no justification for a single-platform rewrite.

The whole point of the Desktop Bridge is to transition to UWP gradually; you don't start with a brand new app.

If you look at what iTunes installs (drivers, services, frameworks) it's no wonder they're having trouble shoehorning it into Windows Store packaging.
 
There's also this thing when Apple forces you to upgrade iTunes, else you are unable to backup your iPhone. That was not the case years ago.
 
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Am I naive to think this is because the Windows Store version was not simply iTunes for Mac, for Windows?

Now that the TV app on iOS is in more countries, is it crazy to think that might spread to the desktop too, and iTunes *finally* be broken up?

The idea that that change has been delayed, rather than simply submitting an app to the Windows Store, seems more likely. Or, perhaps it's just bottom priority what with the new iPhone, the iMac Pro, and trying to get that new Mac Pro finished for as early next year as possible.
 
True a lot has changed, but the iOS devices are still not 100% computer free, and do require iTunes for certain restore/recovery operations, not to mention loading songs you may have from your own collection.

Not everyone is keen on having everything in the cloud, streaming everything, as unlimited data plans don't exist in places like Canada.

Sure... you might have some tasks that you need a computer for.

But my point was... you can own an iPhone today even if you don't own a computer at all.

You brought up the history of the iPod's popularity exploding after it was released on Windows. You couldn't use an iPod without first hooking it to a computer.

But it's not exactly the same situation these days with an iPhone.
 
There's also this thing when Apple forces you to upgrade iTunes, else you are unable to backup your iPhone. That was not the case years ago.

Yep. Ran into this a few weeks ago when my wife got an iPhone X.

She didn't want to lose Health data from her Watch (which isn't backed up to iCloud). So she needed to restore her iPhone X from a backup of her iPhone 6S Plus. So she needed iTunes, which needed the latest macOS... Absolute pain.
 
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iTunes runs on macOS and Windows 7-10. UWP is Windows 10 only. There's no justification for a single-platform rewrite.

The whole point of the Desktop Bridge is to transition to UWP gradually; you don't start with a brand new app.

If you look at what iTunes installs (drivers, services, frameworks) it's no wonder they're having trouble shoehorning it into Windows Store packaging.
Probably true, but any kind of rewrite would be welcome.
 
I have Spotify on all our computers. No idea why anyone would install this archaic nonsense on their PC. Apple still stuck in the 2009 computer world

At this point iTunes should be considered Bloat Ware on a MAC anyway - no need to spread it to PC
 
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That's not entirely accurate. The MS Store only is the low power version of Win10. I installed regular iTunes on a regular Win10 install just fine.

Windows 10S is different than Windows 10.

10S is locked down and only allows software from their store to be installed, like iOS or where macOS seems to be heading.
 
you did hear about an app called WhatsApp ?
Used much more than iMessage.
WhatsApp is very uncommon in the US.
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Windows 10S is different than Windows 10.

10S is locked down and only allows software from their store to be installed, like iOS or where macOS seems to be heading.
I don’t think macOS is headed there at all.
 
Windows 10S is different than Windows 10.

10S is locked down and only allows software from their store to be installed, like iOS or where macOS seems to be heading.
That's what I said. The MS store only is for the low power app use. Maybe I should have said "optimized" power use like Microsoft does...
 
Windows 10s requires apps to come from the Windows Store. The current downloadable version of iTunes will not work.
Sorry for the ignorance as I don’t own a machine runing Windows 10, buy surely there’s a way to install software outside the Windows store, like in modern Mac OS, even if the default behaviour is a ‘no’.

I remember the scorn and indignation from Windows users when in OS X snow leopard (or was it leopard) you could only install App Store software by default. Though just needs to change your settings in security/privacy to do otherwise to change the behaviour.

If there is no work around I see anti-trust law suits.
 
Sorry for the ignorance as I don’t own a machine runing Windows 10, buy surely there’s a way to install software outside the Windows store, like in modern Mac OS, even if the default behaviour is a ‘no’.

I remember the scorn and indignation from Windows users when in OS X snow leopard (or was it leopard) you could only install App Store software by default. Though just changed your settings in security/privacy to do otherwise.

If there is no work around I see anti-trust law suits.

After reading some comments here... I think there are a lot of misconceptions being thrown around here.

The Windows Store is a place to download and purchase apps. These apps run on Windows 10 and Windows 10S

Windows 10 can run apps from the Windows Store... and you can also download and install apps from disk, a website, etc, just like you always have since the beginning.

However... Windows 10S can only run apps from the Windows Store.

I hope that clears things up.

In terms of this article... the Windows Store version of iTunes is delayed. But you can still download the "regular" version of iTunes to run on Windows 10 just like you always have.

The only thing this news affects is if someone wanted to run iTunes on Windows 10S since you can only run store apps on Windows 10S
 
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I don't understand why iTunes doesn't have a web app/player... Netflix, Hulu, Spotify etc. all work in most browsers, why can't iTunes?

Because Apple isn't ready to all in on services yet. And they probably never will. Apple is a hardware company with services that support/enhance the hardware. And hardware is where the money is. That vertical integration that you see Google and Amazon getting into. But if you don't need hardware to use the service then you stop buying hardware. Apple can't risk that. And it would totally change the company very quickly.
 
I fail to see the point of it. I think the benefit of a desktop environment is not being in a walled garden.
It will get more interesting with windows 10 on arm. windows store apps run native, x86 apps will run emulation. Windows 10s is a dead on delivery educational gambit that confused everything. But--hey--this is Microsoft!
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It shouldn't come at all until Microsoft reciprocates and sells (directly) MS Office software on the Apple App Store.
wut?
 
Not all windows users use iPhones . There’s also android.

Thanks for reporting your anecdotal experience though!

"windows users are going elsewhere"

This assumes they even use iTunes on Windows. I have 3 kids with iPhones. None of them have iTunes installed anywhere. All of their music interaction is on their iPhones. I have no doubt there are Windows user out there with iTunes and some serious music libraries. That said this user type is a dying breed. Also what other local app options do they have on Windows? Groove just closed down and everything else is cloud (Google, Spotify, Pandora etc). I am sure there are some odd Windows apps like WinAmp, Windows media player or some of that old school stuff but that is few and far, far between.
 
After reading all the comments, its clear most of the folks here haven't used Windows in the last 2-3 years or follow Microsoft news much which is okay.

I agree that iTunes+Windows in a way serves an impression of how the Apple software experience could be to someone outside the ecosystem. I hope there's plans to improve iCloud for Windows also as I'm constantly faced with sync issues.

Speak for yourselves when you say Windows is only used when forced or is dying and ridden with viruses/malware. That uninformed mindset reminds me of the neighborhoods that's cookie cutter, everyone drives the same car, wears the same clothes and unaware that we are all susceptible to the elements of life.
 
After reading all the comments, its clear most of the folks here haven't used Windows in the last 2-3 years or follow Microsoft news much which is okay.

I agree that iTunes+Windows in a way serves an impression of how the Apple software experience could be to someone outside the ecosystem. I hope there's plans to improve iCloud for Windows also as I'm constantly faced with sync issues.

Speak for yourselves when you say Windows is only used when forced or is dying and ridden with viruses/malware. That uninformed mindset reminds me of the neighborhoods that's cookie cutter, everyone drives the same car, wears the same clothes and unaware that we are all susceptible to the elements of life.
I use Windows every day, and still feel that it’s inferior to macOS...

I would wager that a lot of people making these comments do as well.
 
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Windows 10s requires apps to come from the Windows Store. The current downloadable version of iTunes will not work.

Yeah. That affects roughly five users on the planet. Windows 10S is primarily targeted at schools -- and has almost no installed user base at the moment. It's entirely irrelevant.
 
Yes, shame on them for not pulling out all the stops to deliver their music client to the main competing platform. Next can we complain about them not giving out iMessage to Android devices?

The shame is about self-imposed deadlines. It doesn't matter whether you feel that iTunes should be a priority; if they claim that HomePod and iTunes for Windows Store will come by 2017, and then have to backpedal on both of those claims, that's on them.
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Emojis... lots and lots of emojis.

This stopped being a mildly amusing Strawman punchline and started getting insulting to the thousands of engineers working at Apple (on, hint, not emoji) long ago. Apple never claimed emoji were a big priority, and percentage-wise, their investment in them is but a blip.
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Huh? This has to do with MS releasing a version of Windows that only works with their store. I wouldn't put it "all" on Apple.

But the deadline was one Apple claimed.

1. Does the current marketshare of MacOS really amount to "competing" with Windows?

It depends a lot on the field. macOS is relevant enough that Microsoft is increasingly making their own tools available to it, increasingly often demoing the tools on macOS first. Notice how the first screenshot on their SQL developer tools page is on a Mac.

3. iMessage on Android would be freakin' sweet.

I fail to see the business case for this.
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Why can't they port it? It's a dinosaur!

I doubt Apple could write a version of iTunes that complied with regulations third party developers have to follow for the Mac App Store, either.

It's less archaic than people think. For instance, since iTunes 10.4, it no longer uses QuickTime but instead AVFoundation.

There are probably harder-to-port areas that haven't been sexy in a while, such as their disc burning stuff, sure.
 
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