You don't buy the song twice, you pay Apple a fee for giving you the service/ software to make a ringtone. Don't like it, then don't use it.. there are already other possibilities (and no.. iToner does cost $15, that is... around 15 ringtones)
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You don't buy the song twice, you pay Apple a fee for giving you the service/ software to make a ringtone. Don't like it, then don't use it.. there are already other possibilities (and no.. iToner does cost $15, that is... around 15 ringtones)
The ringtone industry is insanely messed up... but you know what? Millions of people support it and continue to pay 1.99, 2.49, 2.99 to have the new Kanye song as their ringer. Unless people stop doing that, which they won't, Apple is playing along with every other company making a crap load of money off of ringtones. They can't do otherwise, because the music companies make money off of those same ring tones.
No one complains like this when Verizon adds new ring tones to their ring tone service at 2.99 for "high quality" ringers. Again, this ringtone maker isn't aimed at most of us here... its for those millions of people who blindly download ring tones left and right, and now can make their own using iTunes. Its another part of the -mass- market, not the niche of very advanced users like most of us scrolling the boards here.
No one complains like this when Verizon adds new ring tones to their ring tone service at 2.99 for "high quality" ringers. Again, this ringtone maker isn't aimed at most of us here... its for those millions of people who blindly download ring tones left and right, and now can make their own using iTunes. Its another part of the -mass- market, not the niche of very advanced users like most of us scrolling the boards here.
I don't know why everyone insists that ringtones are DELETED by 3rd party apps.
THIS IS BECAUSE YOU CHOSE THE WRONG 3RD PARTY APP!!!
Both myself and my fiance have iphones, are on an Intel machine, and have used iFUNTASTIC...
We have synced MULTIPLE TIMES, including using Installer.app, and all our ringtones are still there and synced perfectly.
Why aren't you paying attention???
Just because YOU were stupid and PAID for software that you could have gotten for free, don't yell at Apple when they change sometime.
USE IFUNTASTIC AND THERE IS NO PROBLEM! GEEEEEZ!
THIS IS BECAUSE YOU CHOSE THE WRONG 3RD PARTY APP!!!
Both myself and my fiance have iphones, are on an Intel machine, and have used iFUNTASTIC...
We have synced MULTIPLE TIMES, including using Installer.app, and all our ringtones are still there and synced perfectly.
Why aren't you paying attention???
Just because YOU were stupid and PAID for software that you could have gotten for free, don't yell at Apple when they change sometime.
USE IFUNTASTIC AND THERE IS NO PROBLEM! GEEEEEZ!
Ringtones work fine added with SendSong work!
After update the ringtones added with sendsong work no prob.
The world of hacking the iphone has recently made huge strides - it really is all very simple now with clean GUIs. It is so simple that even after a firmware upgrade in many cases it will be very easy to reinstall!
see - http://lifehacker.com/software/hack...+party-applications-on-your-iphone-295985.php
After update the ringtones added with sendsong work no prob.
The world of hacking the iphone has recently made huge strides - it really is all very simple now with clean GUIs. It is so simple that even after a firmware upgrade in many cases it will be very easy to reinstall!
see - http://lifehacker.com/software/hack...+party-applications-on-your-iphone-295985.php
Lay off the 'roids. Jesus.
Question: does iFuntastic hack up the OS & cause issues when updating the firmware? Or is that JailBreak I'm thinking of?
I don't know how any of that works. I've avoided it because I don't want to potentially mess up my iPhone.
Big notice on the Mac OS Installer.app site..."ATTENTION: The Mac OS X installer does not currently work with iTunes 7.4."
--DotComCTO
How is using a song you own on your phone used as a ringtone in any way, shape or form related to piracy? Who's pirating? It's "fair use" plain and simple. ESPECIALLY if it's already DRM'd music!! Paying a second time for something that is already locked to your own account is madness. The whole concept of "paid for" ringtones is insane.
Is it just me, or does FrontRow not find the Music/Videos anymore?
You mean you actually got FrontRow to work??? Mine NEVER worked!
DNA is digital.
Just wait 'til some gene hacker takes your As, Cs, Gs, and Ts and uses their sequence for his own purposes with you having zero control over how it is used or if it is used at all.
I mean, hey, it's just information, there's no victim. If I take the sequence what have you lost?
Enjoy the world you've helped to create.
Just wait 'til some gene hacker takes your As, Cs, Gs, and Ts and uses their sequence for his own purposes with you having zero control over how it is used or if it is used at all.
I mean, hey, it's just information, there's no victim. If I take the sequence what have you lost?
Enjoy the world you've helped to create.
Yeah, or a sound effect, or a clip from a movie or tv show...
I like to have the clip from Dilbert cartoon show where seven of nine from Star Trek: Voyager says "wake up, resistance if futile, get out of bed and assimilate the day" set as my wake-up alarm in the morning. I put it in with iToner; I'll have to stop upgrading iTunes if they're going to delete this stuff. But I'll do it, just to spite Steve for telling me which songs I can use and which ones I can't.
And what about that song I wrote 5 years ago that was my ringtone on my Sony Ericsson POS? I have an mp3, it's in iTunes, can we drag regular songs into the ringtones tab?
I'm fine with paying an extra $0.99 for a ringtone, but they aren't offering the ringtones I want, and they're not going to, so I'm headed for the blackmarket. I mean, really when will Good Charlotte get on the list? (Someone please tell me they are already.)
I agree with you on this portion of your post. All I want is a selection of somewhat decent ringtones - not music, not rap, hip hop, or bubble gum pop, not a DJ screaming at me or a frat boy farting or burping. I just want a good selection of normal/professional ringtones. I'm stunned it's this hard.
Best point yet, but still, there are contracts that say "public performances" are different, and since the law is the law, it wouldn't be within the contract to do it any other way. Unfortunately, Apple hasn't allowed us to use non-iTMS music or sounds, or my recording my roommate saying "Hey, it's (insert name here), answer your phone!" and that royally sucks!
Is it dark down there in the sand, where you've stuck your head?
"vinyl" is gradually destroyed everytime you play it, at a far faster rate than CD's or .mp3's. Once those scratches get in there, they're not coming back out without (*gasp*) digital processing.
Besides, I'd like to see you try to make a back-up copy of your 3,000 song vinyl collection in 20 minutes like I did with my iTunes music.
w00t
im 14 and never owned a cd.
having music collections outside of a computer or ipod sounds odd to me.
If people are willing to pay a certain price for a product, then arguably the product is "worth that much" to them. So a business isn't crazy to charge that much for it, rather than pricing the product based on the cost to produce it, at the risk that competitors will undercut that price. These consumers apparently aren't going to stop paying these prices for ringtones until they can get the same songs cheaper (or free) through their normal (easy, legal, "official") channels.
I don't think anyone is even aware of that law (obviously). This can't be an ATT thing, I've had plenty of motorola phones with ATT... and with bluetooth, I just drag the ringtones that i make over onto the phone. Presto! I've got a ringtone. Besides, that law is a total farce, music travels through the air. It was always meant to. I know we are all in the digital age and everyone wears headphones, but come on, this is ridiculous. If it were actually about public use, they would go after clubs, djs, stereo outlets, etc. It's about the music companies finally going down in flames and trying to scrape on the way down. Too bad they got apple wrapped up in it too. Good riddance mega-music overlords!
It'll sound odder when your system crashes and you don't have music inside your computer either.
You can't sue anyone for stealing from you because you have lost no physical possession.
I've always been of the opinion that transfer of the original should by default concede all rights to the new owner, but Copyright law is the opposite, it defaults to only transfering the physical entity, and not the Copyright, unless explicitely given. When I do commissioned works, though, I always (simply because I personally feel it's right) give rights to the buyer, except that I retain a non-exclusive right to use reproductions for my own promotion, e.g., to include in portfolios.
That said, if you would sue someone's "a$$" for putting a portrait you did of someone on their funeral programme because you own the rights and technically they weren't allowed to reproduce it, you're utterly heartless. Yet, it is in things like this, programmes for weddings, funerals, birthdays, etc, that the most common Copyright violation of plastic arts occurs.
As well, unless you routinely register your work with the US Copyright Office (which most artists don't), the most you can sue for is actual damages, which in most cases is, you guessed it, nothing. You can only sue for punitive if the work was registered before the violation occurred.
Um, that's all fine and good. But this is more like sueing the person for walking home with your art, and other people saw it along the way.