I echo the sentiments of the solo knit band v dual loop strap. After all the reviews I figured most would land on wanting to use the dual strap. After the initial few hours of play with the solo band on, I figured 'ok, time to pull out the dual band and get a more comfortable fit'. Well I did, and boy does it feel like a pain to adjust those straps once it's on your head compared to the dial on the solo band. Definitely can tell that the dual band with one strap going overhead helps with some of the downward weight, but for me it felt too cumbersome, and in the end not as comfortable. I've tried to spend a lot of time with both options, adjusting each quite a bit, just to get the balance and fit as good as possible (like @spiderman0616 says, once you find the sweet spot between pressure on forehead and cheeks you're good). But every time I went back to the solo knife band, it felt like such a breath of fresh air (and comfort).
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I've successfully incorporated Vision Pro into my everyday (indoor) life. Here are my thoughts.
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I echo the sentiments of the solo knit band v dual loop strap. After all the reviews I figured most would land on wanting to use the dual strap. After the initial few hours of play with the solo band on, I figured 'ok, time to pull out the dual band and get a more comfortable fit'. Well I did, and boy does it feel like a pain to adjust those straps once it's on your head compared to the dial on the solo band. Definitely can tell that the dual band with one strap going overhead helps with some of the downward weight, but for me it felt too cumbersome, and in the end not as comfortable. I've tried to spend a lot of time with both options, adjusting each quite a bit, just to get the balance and fit as good as possible (like @spiderman0616 says, once you find the sweet spot between pressure on forehead and cheeks you're good). But every time I went back to the solo knife band, it felt like such a breath of fresh air (and comfort).
This is a major thing people are missing. Holy moly it’s great. You can walk right up to it and almost swear it’s a real TV too.
I know there are a lot of cool use cases right now, and I can only imagine with time and development the different features and apps that will come, but right now entertainment is the killer app for me.
I have an 85" TV in my basement that I absolutely love watching to get a bit of that theatre feel, and also an OLED TV (not quite as big) in a different room which is just a gorgeous display. But boy do they ever both feel small compared to using the Vision Pro. Its kind of sad but its ruined traditional TV watching for me.
Mind if I ask you about the chair you are using? Which brand is it and where could I get one?
When I'm home my iPhone, iPad, and personal Mac have now largely been laying dormant. I still enjoy watching movies on the "normal" 4KTV with Atmos too, but yes, even that seems quite cramped and boring now.
I do think the part where I am glimpsing into the future a bit is that I can absolutely imagine a few years from now only needing my iPhone, Apple Watch, and Vision Pro/Air/Whatever. This thing already has second gen Apple Silicon in it. Once this kind of form factor can run some more hardcore games and editing apps like I can now do on my M1 Pro Mac, I feel like it's going to be the preferred device for most use cases.
In the meantime, this is a really really good first try at what that future is going to be like.
Yeah, I use the solo band too… My neck muscles are getting stronger, and the pain I used to have all the time has been significantly reduced since using the AVP.
My absolute favourite Apple device prior to this launch has been the iPad. It's my primary 'computing' device, love it for media use, touch, etc. and the design from 2018 for the Pro still feels brand new. Honestly was looking forward to supposed OLED update this year.
But having said that, it's been sitting unused since I've had the Vision Pro. Similar to like what you said - when I'm at home my iPhone, iPad, iMac have gotten such little use. I do think some of it must be a bit of a honeymoon phase, but there is just something so fundamentally different about Vision that it feels like we're experiencing computing from the future and I'm absolutely fascinated by it (even if it doesn't feel anywhere near perfect yet). It's going to be a fun ride as we see future generations and improvements, that's for sure.
Those are simply vr 180 videos. Not sure on the resolution but many on YouTube are 8k. Avp can probably do 12k. Quest 3 can do 8k. I’m sure apples versions are well produced and optimized for Avp.
You’re not going to find a lot of apple or big company produced content like that though.
A quest 3 is a great idea though and you can always check back and see how avp develops later. Personally i found the immersive stuff was mind blowing at first but got less interesting over time. To me videos on quest remind me of a run of the mill 1080p lcd tv (where avp is almost 4k oled hdr). But a big screen makes that forgiving for either device and is fine for the limited times you do that. You don’t need all star quality for a casual use device.
How much of this do we really need? So we buy for fun what we can afford to as disposable income. I for one have been spoiled away from cheap tv’s by my 70 inch OLED and don’t plan on going back, so the quest is only a dissapointment for that application for me. It’s okay for a quick game or two though. I appreciate and will continue to enjoy the quality of the APV for all else. Just another perspective.
Do people not have tvs in their bedrooms now?
Ah, so you are one of those people who already have a TV in every room. Gotcha.
Ohhh fancy me living in the year 2010 where high def TVs are affordable enough to have in multiple rooms 😆
Bathroom is next. Work in progress.
Thanks to everyone for contributing to this thread.
I really love those real-world-reviews of the AVP highlighting good and bad things.
I, for one, am currently not in the market to buy one - not that I could, living in Germany, but one day in the not so distant future, it will arrive here - but I am really happy to read about positive experiences, because I actually want this thing to succeed.
I can see many potential use-cases for me, once this has really been fleshed out. Even professionally. I am a radiologist and nuclear medicine physician, reading scans all day. The possibilities such a device could offer for my profession in the future are really getting me excited!
As with all Apple devices, I have been a little bit "late to the game". I got on board with the iPhone 5, the Apple Watch 5, the iPad 3 and my first iMac I bought in 2011 (aged 29), after using Windows PCs for nearly two decades.
But it is great to hear that people are happy with their first-generation devices and it makes me optimistic about this device really taking off in the near future!
I really love those real-world-reviews of the AVP highlighting good and bad things.
I, for one, am currently not in the market to buy one - not that I could, living in Germany, but one day in the not so distant future, it will arrive here - but I am really happy to read about positive experiences, because I actually want this thing to succeed.
I can see many potential use-cases for me, once this has really been fleshed out. Even professionally. I am a radiologist and nuclear medicine physician, reading scans all day. The possibilities such a device could offer for my profession in the future are really getting me excited!
As with all Apple devices, I have been a little bit "late to the game". I got on board with the iPhone 5, the Apple Watch 5, the iPad 3 and my first iMac I bought in 2011 (aged 29), after using Windows PCs for nearly two decades.
But it is great to hear that people are happy with their first-generation devices and it makes me optimistic about this device really taking off in the near future!
I would LOVE if you would DM me here sometime when you get yours and tell me all the ways you've used it to enhance your work!!!
I am like you typically--I didn't have an iPhone until the iPhone 4. I didn't have an iPad until the second gen. I didn't have a Mac until about 2012. HOWEVER, for the Apple Watch and Vision Pro, I've been a day one adopter. The Apple Watch has reached a state of maturity and it was really fun watching it get here. I surmise the same will be true with Vision Pro.
I was a day one adopter for the MacBook Pro Intel (2007) —my first Mac—, early adopter for the iPad 1st gen, and day one for the Vision Pro.
Tomorrow is my last day to decide whether to keep it or return it. Two possible choices.:
• I could return it tomorrow, and then wait and see what happens, if it improves I will buy it again.
• What I lose:
• The opportunity to experiment and learn to develop software for it on my spare time.
• Being able to watch movies on that gigantic screen, and movies in 3-D and immersive content.
or
• I could keep it and ride the wave; see it evolve and provide useful feedback (will anyone at Apple will hear me?), and enjoy using the first Vision Pro ever released, considering the next release may come in 2 years or so.
• What I lose:
• $4300 if Apple decides to abandon the Vision Pro due to poor initial interest and adoption from both users and developers.
Can confirm you cannot use it in complete darkness. Constant error about tracking until you turn on dim lighting. Someone suggested holding my hands up out front so the IR sensors can see them but that did nothing for me.
I for one cannot see this happening. Apple has way too much invested in and riding on the new product category and spatial computing.
As for initial interest, I've noticed with much interest that my instagram feed is littered with photos of people using Apple Vision Pro in often unusual settings and especially in public. For comparison, I've yet to see single photo of anyone wearing Quest 3 on the streets, sub, cafe, etc.
I think the reason why people are wearing Apple Vision Pro in public is how it's used & the lagless throughput. No controllers needed, just hands, and you can react to anything happening around you instantly.
That – and wearing Apple Vision Pro is somewhat of a status symbol. It might look like ski goggles, but very expensive ones, and you are also wearing cutting edge technology.
I'm actually surprised by the use and attention AVP is getting out of home. And the more people are seen with Apple Vision Pro, the more acceptance it gets.
Not to mention more and more real-life use cases are coming up, like the one in this thread, where Apple Vision Pro's actual potential shines.
I have been able to use it in complete darkness while my wife was sleeping next to me. Once you pass the popup message saying that your hands will not be visible, the AVP will detect my hand gestures without any issue. It uses the LiDAR for that purpose. The only drawback is that unless you can blindly type, you may need to resort to use the virtual keyboard in look-and-tap manner.
Thanks, this is what I needed to hear to reach my final decision. 😆
How is usable is Siri on the AVP? Wouldn’t dictation be better than typing on a virtual keyboard? I really haven’t seen any comments about using Siri with AVP.
The only problem I see is the same problem I have when holding my iPhone in my hand while in bed and I ask Siri something and the HomePod mini way out in the kitchen answers and says “I can’t do that.”
The only problem I see is the same problem I have when holding my iPhone in my hand while in bed and I ask Siri something and the HomePod mini way out in the kitchen answers and says “I can’t do that.”