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How is usable is Siri on the AVP? Wouldn’t dictation be better than typing on a virtual keyboard? I really haven’t seen any comments about using Siri with AVP.

The only problem I see is the same problem I have when holding my iPhone in my hand while in bed and I ask Siri something and the HomePod mini way out in the kitchen answers and says “I can’t do that.”
The speech-to-text works exactly as well as it does on iPhone. The biggest difference is that you just look at the microphone icon for a bit and the speech-to-text activates- no click needed. There is a microphone icon on the pop-up keyboard as well as in the URL entry field in Safari.
 
How is usable is Siri on the AVP? Wouldn’t dictation be better than typing on a virtual keyboard? I really haven’t seen any comments about using Siri with AVP.

The only problem I see is the same problem I have when holding my iPhone in my hand while in bed and I ask Siri something and the HomePod mini way out in the kitchen answers and says “I can’t do that.”

The speech-to-text works exactly as well as it does on iPhone. The biggest difference is that you just look at the microphone icon for a bit and the speech-to-text activates- no click needed. There is a microphone icon on the pop-up keyboard as well as in the URL entry field in Safari.

I found myself doing that a lot when using Vision Pro and having messages open, for example. Kept looking at the microphone and speaking to reply to the conversation.

Side note / cool visual I noticed for Siri in general on the Vision Pro - when invoking Siri, the usual Siri orb shows up, but its 3D, and you can walk/move around it as the orb morphing (minor detail, but such a cool visual).

I do notice that when using Vision Pro that Siri on it takes prominence when you invoke it, similar to when wearing AirPods (as opposed to HomePods taking over if using it with multiple devices around you).
 
How is usable is Siri on the AVP? Wouldn’t dictation be better than typing on a virtual keyboard? I really haven’t seen any comments about using Siri with AVP.

The only problem I see is the same problem I have when holding my iPhone in my hand while in bed and I ask Siri something and the HomePod mini way out in the kitchen answers and says “I can’t do that.”
We have a lot of smart home stuff, so I actually do use Siri with it a lot. I haven't had any trouble. If a HomePod or iPhone or my Apple Watch triggers the command, I usually don't care as long as the intended action happens. However, usually it's the Vision Pro that picks it up, or I just pull up the home app and "click" everything off manually if I really want to.
 
Gents, nobody needs AVP except Apple to make money from it. Spend more time in nature and outdoors. Don't waste your time.
I have a spouse, 2 kids, a large dog, and 2 elderly parents living with me that all need my attention. I spend plenty of time outdoors, running kids around, doing things with/for my family, etc. I also work full time from home. Who are you to judge what I do with my spare time and money if I choose? You know nothing about me or anyone else using this device.

The intent of the post and following conversation was for people interested in the device. Why don't YOU take your own advice and spend more time doing what you prefer instead of criticizing others?
 
My son picked up an AVP so I had an opportunity to spend a couple of hours with it, and based on my observation (no pun intended), I am 100% confident there isn't a single reason I need one. I would absolutely enjoy using it, but the device just doesn't suit my needs. Perhaps it will change as the device matures but at least for now, beyond the wow factor, it doesn't improve my life to the same degree other Apple products do.
 
I got a Vision Pro on Day 1. There is a lot of misinformation and knowitall-ism going on about Vision Pro, what it is, and how it compares to other "headsets", so I wanted to just give one opinion from a regular user's point of view. I didn't buy my Vision Pro to sell it on ebay, to "glimpse the future", to pull TikTok stunts, or whatever else. I bought it to use it. I would say it took me the full initial launch week to fully get comfortable in it and start using it for literally almost everything I do. I'm leaving out commenting on the price on purpose because I think it's a dumb thing to complain about in this specific situation.

I'll start with my list of gripes:

1. Apps are scarce. I knew that going in, but iPad apps running in visionOS should be considered a stopgap. They don't look great.

2. The hardware with everything attached is hard to maneuver. Notice I didn't say it's heavy--I'll get to that later. I'm saying it's hard to pick up and put on because everything falls apart so easily. The lightshield and cushion are magnetic and I think some people are going to accidentally break these things by absentmindedly grabbing them from JUST the wrong spot instead of the metal frame as the instructions advise. The battery is heavy and connected to a cable. All these things make the putting on/taking off experience a little scary sometimes.

3. visionOS is a tad finnicky, not with usability in my experience, but with audio playback. It sometimes just decides to disconnect my AirPods if I'm using them or stop playing my podcast until I'm looking at it again. Things like that.

In summary: the hardware is not perfect. It's too clunky for a teenager to put on without accidentally breaking it, so it's not ready for primetime yet as far as durability. The software also needs work and more support. These things are to be expected with new platforms.

Here are the things I'm pleased with:

1. Once I got fully used to the system, I was able to fly around it just as quickly as anything else, with the exception of typing. I find the index fingers-only style typing in the virtual keyboard is simply "good enough", so I often use my hardware keyboard. It's not nearly as horrible as the tech reviewers say though. I like it better than trying to type on an iPad on-screen keyboard, honestly.

2. I'm pleasantly surprised by the usefulness of the Mac virtual display function. It is great and has been working flawlessly for me.

3. Video: I mean, obviously.

4. Environments. I work in a small office. Vision Pro gives it that TARDIS effect and makes it much easier to work on a giant screen without me having to buy a separate one. My office during the workday looks like a CNN newsroom of all my visionOS apps surrounding my Mac screen. It's so great.

5. Passthrough: Hated it day 1, love it now. I realized that while its major shortcoming is low light, it's still perfectly useable in low light and pretty convincing in good light if you don't inspect anything too closely. I've done all kinds of things around the house in passthrough mode and then been able to get right back to what I was doing.

6. Weight: It's just simply not bothering me. I don't know what to say. Especially because I have chronic neck and back pain from degenerative discs and arthritis. It was a major worry I had about the device going in. I've worn it for up to 3 or 4 hours for work and had zero pain or discomfort so far. If anything, it may be eliminating some of my pain because it's forcing me to look up and sit up straight instead of gradually slouching over my laptop or hunching over in my chair staring at a monitor.

Summary: I'm working on it. I'm playing on it. I'm doing all the things I was doing on my iPhone, iPad, and Mac. Sometimes it even replaces my Apple Watch as a timer.

I'm happy with this device. It's very gen 1, but I am already hooked and I'm keeping mine.
It’s a timer having off of your head. Great lol.
 
I had vowed to take a 2 week break from this place when Vision Pro came out just avoid this bs, but came back a little early to give some impressions. I was not asking for another thread full of comments on why people don't want one or think it's useless. I just wanted to talk about/answer questions about what it's like using one. I couldn't care less how many of you don't think it's a good product.

Anyway, I'm out again for a while. This was a dumb idea.
 
I had vowed to take a 2 week break from this place when Vision Pro came out just avoid this bs, but came back a little early to give some impressions. I was not asking for another thread full of comments on why people don't want one or think it's useless. I just wanted to talk about/answer questions about what it's like using one. I couldn't care less how many of you don't think it's a good product.

Anyway, I'm out again for a while. This was a dumb idea.

Look, I don't know why the haters got to hate. But one way to look at this is apparently people coming in to discuss real impressions annoys them so much that they got to keep on here with their uninformed opinions. Because heaven forbid anyone actually likes the device. Then the sky will fall down.

But what I have found is as long as you keep on putting out facts. They will move on to another target. Just don't expect them to have any facts in return.

Anyway, as an owner of a AVP, I enjoyed and learned from your impressions and those of others who also own the device and share their thoughts here as well. So thank you. And I do hope you continue to share your journey with us. You have a great way of summarizing things. And the one thing I am learning about this device, is I continue to learn more about how to use it and wear it, every single day. I dont expect that to stop anytime soon.
 
The speech-to-text works exactly as well as it does on iPhone. The biggest difference is that you just look at the microphone icon for a bit and the speech-to-text activates- no click needed. There is a microphone icon on the pop-up keyboard as well as in the URL entry field in Safari.
I really hope they improve it by a lot though. It’s really bad compared to the one GPT uses
 
have an 77inch oled which i use with airplay as secondary display. tell me how vision pro would be better.

1. You can have a display > 77 inches. Or smaller, whatever pleases you at the moment. Haven't decided on a fixed size yet. Use different sizes for different sources.,
2. Your 77 inch display is likely fixed in location. The vision Pro display can go with you anywhere.
3. Environments. Every time I turn on the environment and the Disney Theater replaces my room I still am in awe.

Those are just a few reasons.
 
i have an 77inch oled which i use with airplay as secondary display. tell me how vision pro would be better.

Your tv is just one fixed display. With APV I can have multiple discrete windows all around me. Much easier to multitask.
 
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I have also incorporated AvP into my workflow

I have two AvP on my head... and I use my four hands to gesture... including my 6 feet at times when a deadline needs met.

The only issue Ive encountered is that I have ran into issues with fellow commuters, who call me names and give me funny looks.

I have also been accused of inappropriate touching, but I swear I was just composing an email and did not intend to pinch someone's butt and twist it 90 degrees before moving it across the aisle.

Unfortunately I'll be returning my two AvP as since that last incident Ive been labelled the dirty wandering touchy feely octopus of the 17:30 express service.

On a serious note... apart from media consumption who is going to use a lot of the features in public or outside, even then it remains to be seen how you can stay aware of said surroundings in such crazy times... Ill look forward to a more refined release that is focussed on media consumption.... I feel it won't be my work but for personal use... movies and TV when at home where it will be at its best 😀
 
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I had vowed to take a 2 week break from this place when Vision Pro came out just avoid this bs, but came back a little early to give some impressions. I was not asking for another thread full of comments on why people don't want one or think it's useless. I just wanted to talk about/answer questions about what it's like using one. I couldn't care less how many of you don't think it's a good product.

Anyway, I'm out again for a while. This was a dumb idea.
No it wasn't! I appreciate this thread and the engagement with others (well, the ones that actually own the device and want to discuss it).

I understand the frustration though. I don't know why this is the device that EVERYONE seems to have an opinion on. If it's not for you, then don't use it and move on.

I don't care for other brands and other devices they make and I don't spend a single second telling someone that does enjoy them that they shouldn't be.

Can't we all just like what we like? If Apple Vision Pro isn't for you, then maybe don't frequent the Apple Vision Pro section of this forum?

Anyways, hope to continue to see you posting about your experiences with it!
 
I have a spouse, 2 kids, a large dog, and 2 elderly parents living with me that all need my attention. I spend plenty of time outdoors, running kids around, doing things with/for my family, etc. I also work full time from home. Who are you to judge what I do with my spare time and money if I choose? You know nothing about me or anyone else using this device.

The intent of the post and following conversation was for people interested in the device. Why don't YOU take your own advice and spend more time doing what you prefer instead of criticizing others?
Did not mean to hurt your ego. It was a friendly advice. Life without too many gadgets is more rewarding. Take it or leave it.
 
Did not mean to hurt your ego. It was a friendly advice. Life without too many gadgets is more rewarding. Take it or leave it.
Oh so you undoubtedly have a tv, a phone, a computer, and a house full of gadgets, maybe even for hiking, but this, this is where you draw the line as too many?! Thanks for sharing your opinion on life in a tech forum.
 
I get that this is exciting tech and that early adopters are eager to try it out.

My questions is, can you be as productive on the AVP as on a "traditional" setup with a large physical screen, a keyboard, and a mouse/touchpad? After years of using the Mac, I'm pretty good at multitasking with different apps, using lots of keyboard shortcuts to get around the UI, and of course, touch typing. I have to do a lot of text manipulation with different apps on my Mac and would quickly lose patience if I had to do the same work on an iPad, because it slows me down immensely.

I would love to hear your take on the productivity aspect.
 
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I get that this is exciting tech and that early adopters are eager to try it out.

My questions is, can you be as productive on the AVP as on a "traditional" setup with a large physical screen, a keyboard, and a mouse/touchpad? After years of using the Mac, I'm pretty good at multitasking with different apps, using lots of keyboard shortcuts to get around the UI, and of course, touch typing. I have to do a lot of text manipulation with different apps on my Mac and would quickly lose patience if I had to do the same work on an iPad, because it slows me down immensely.

I would love to hear your take on the productivity aspect.
I don't own a VP, just did a demo this past weekend. I don't think the VP will make most people *more* productive than traditional desktop computing. Manipulating through the interface with eye and hand tracking is not as smooth as with mouse and keyboard. It might get more refined as Apple improves the software, and people might eventually get used to it, but right now, there will be a learning curve, and it's steep, especially for people with physical issues like myself.

But what it does do is allow you to have a multiple monitor setup away from a desk. So for people who travel, who want to work at cafes or sitting out in the backyard, and people like me who find it uncomfortable or even impossible to sit at desks, the tradeoffs may be worth it.
 
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I get that this is exciting tech and that early adopters are eager to try it out.

My questions is, can you be as productive on the AVP as on a "traditional" setup with a large physical screen, a keyboard, and a mouse/touchpad? After years of using the Mac, I'm pretty good at multitasking with different apps, using lots of keyboard shortcuts to get around the UI, and of course, touch typing. I have to do a lot of text manipulation with different apps on my Mac and would quickly lose patience if I had to do the same work on an iPad, because it slows me down immensely.

I would love to hear your take on the productivity aspect.

I have been using one since release, sometimes up to 8 hours a day, and I haven't abandoned my office rig of three large screens and a Mac Studio. I agree the eye tracking takes some time to master, and even then, for me as my eyes tend to wander, it just doesn't have the control resolution of a mouse. But it does become easy. My biggest problem, besides wandering eyes, is my hands tend to get restless and my fingers sometimes randomly pinch without thinking about it. I have not explored using Siri for mundane tasks like opening files.

Having said that, it is my device of choice when away from my desk, over my iPad, and even my MBA 15. I just like having multiple screens in a comfortable setting of my choice. Text input is great with an apple keyboard (physical). I use it for answering email, browsing the web, sorting photos, playing games, texting, watching 3D movies and light MS Word editing.

I find it to compliment my work/life flow rather than totally replace any one device. I would say my time at my office rig has decreased by a couple of hours, with my iPad by a couple of hours, and my 70 inch oled TV viewing time by another couple of hours.... my iPad time is largely relegated to reading a book in bed. My computer more than ever just word and excel documents with the occasional powerpoint, my widescreen tv for being sociable, and my phone, is more and more just about being a phone.

If I had to give up one device from that list, I would have to think hard about either the iPad or AVP. But a lot of that is just the history I have with the iPad.
 
I have been using one since release, sometimes up to 8 hours a day, and I haven't abandoned my office rig of three large screens and a Mac Studio. I agree the eye tracking takes some time to master, and even then, for me as my eyes tend to wander, it just doesn't have the control resolution of a mouse. But it does become easy. My biggest problem, besides wandering eyes, is my hands tend to get restless and my fingers sometimes randomly pinch without thinking about it. I have not explored using Siri for mundane tasks like opening files.

Having said that, it is my device of choice when away from my desk, over my iPad, and even my MBA 15. I just like having multiple screens in a comfortable setting of my choice. Text input is great with an apple keyboard (physical). I use it for answering email, browsing the web, sorting photos, playing games, texting, watching 3D movies and light MS Word editing.

I find it to compliment my work/life flow rather than totally replace any one device. I would say my time at my office rig has decreased by a couple of hours, with my iPad by a couple of hours, and my 70 inch oled TV viewing time by another couple of hours.... my iPad time is largely relegated to reading a book in bed. My computer more than ever just word and excel documents with the occasional powerpoint, my widescreen tv for being sociable, and my phone, is more and more just about being a phone.

If I had to give up one device from that list, I would have to think hard about either the iPad or AVP. But a lot of that is just the history I have with the iPad.

I've had very similar experience to yours (though not quite as much usage each day).

Biggest thing I've found is how I use it for 95% of TV watching. I've had an 85" TV in the basement for 3+ years that I absolutely adore, but but I can sit anywhere and have what feels like a TV filling an entire wall / room. I can't believe how it displaced that traditional TV use for me.
 
Now that 3 months have passed, I'd love to read an update from those of you who were early adopters and successful incorporators of the device.
  • Are you using AVP as much as the early days? More? Less?
  • If you had to do without it for a couple weeks, what would you miss?
  • For those of us who don't have one, what would you name as the biggest thing we're missing out on?
 
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Now that 3 months have passed, I'd love to read an update from those of you who were early adopters and successful incorporators of the device.
  • Are you using AVP as much as the early days? More? Less?
  • If you had to do without it for a couple weeks, what would you miss?
  • For those of us who don't have one, what would you name as the biggest thing we're missing out on?
Overall, I'm using mine more than at the beginning. For work, I've come to prefer the AVP to my desktop monitor or hardcopy for reading articles and other documents. It's more comfortable doing that in my recliner, and I can copy snippets as needed.

If I had to do without the AVP, I'd miss watching videos/movies and listening to music (often accompanied by video). I'd also miss apps like Voyager (lets you follow airport operations) and Sky Guide (virtual planetarium). I'm seeing more educational and informational material as well. For example, Zillow's app makes it easy to virtually tour homes for sale. It's fun even if you're not in the market.

I didn't include immersive contact above because I've already watched what's there, though I still consider it to be the AVP's killer use case. Hoping for more and meaningful visionOS updates at WWDC next month.
 
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