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iWork 09
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Exactly what I want, as these are the only two reasons I use Office. I use office for only two things: equation editor and notebook layout in Word. The notebook layout isn't nearly as full featured as OneNote. If I could view/edit notes, PDFs, slides, pictures all in one document with the ability to write on them with text notes and pen, then all would be well.
Really? If I were Steve, I'd get a team of designers to make a list of all the possible "advantages" office has over iwork. Then I'd tell them to hunker down and work until they come up with an '09 version that supports these features.
It's simply inexcusable that Apple can't offer the same featureset! Once you start using office, you're temped to use outlook.... ewww.
Using office for mac is like having to work with an ex-significant other.
all I want is more languages. currently I have to change every style in the styles drawer to norwegian. and I need to do this for every new document that I create. Almost makes me want to start using microsoft office instead.
also, I want more languages for the spellchecker. I know the spellchecker is not iWork specific, but still it would be nice to have a spellchecker in all the languages iphone auto-correct have. Currently I need to rely on 3d party software (cocoAspell) in order to get a norwegian spellchecker.
also, I want more languages for the spellchecker. I know the spellchecker is not iWork specific, but still it would be nice to have a spellchecker in all the languages iphone auto-correct have. Currently I need to rely on 3d party software (cocoAspell) in order to get a norwegian spellchecker.
Really? Really!
Microsoft's software design philosophy is to cram in as many features as possible, then in the next version, add more. It's virtually impossible to implement feature bloat successfully. Word is a shining example of how not to design software. I can think of some new features I like to be added to Pages, but I don't think the list should be "every feature that Word has," because that's just arbitrary, and could not realistically be done well, even by Apple.
No, I'm happy that Apple has taken a different approach -- and has tried to satisfy those of us who prefer a smaller feature-set implemented well, to a big feature-set implemented poorly.
Yes, but lots of people use these features, Adobe does the same thing with Photoshop! Pages really does have a long way to go to compete with Office 2007. (Yes, I know that's the PC version). iWork needs a better UI and more features.
Some things that bother me are.
The page isn't centered in the window.
NO Live fonts
Numbers needs more functions
Keynote needs more High res themes
better finder integration
they should make a One Note program
That's exactly like saying Apple products have form over function. It might take you longer to do things in Word, but at least you can do them!
For example the iPhone, an amazing device but lacks:
Real Bluetooth
File System
Flash for Camera
Better than 2MP Camera
Video recording
MMS
Removable battery
If you don't care about those features then the iPhone will seem perfect, but plenty of people do care about them.
So you say, but a lot of us have been using Pages happily since version 1.0 and have rarely found a significant feature missing. The "centered page" thing is certainly not a "feature," it's just a difference between the visual presentation of the two applications. The handling of fonts in Pages is the handling of fonts in OSX -- about which I have some misgivings, but it's not Pages you're really complaining about here, it's OSX.
Leap year support in Numbers (i.e. formatting Feb 29 as a date for 2008, 2012, etc.)
Citation support in Pages.
Ability to make the chart title a formula in Numbers.
Automatic document recovery.
Citation support in Pages.
Ability to make the chart title a formula in Numbers.
Automatic document recovery.
Office is the industry standard. Unless Apple can release iWork to compete and ultimately support without hitch those formats, then it won't go far.
Pages is good, it does the job, and when I submit coursework, I always print it to a .PDF file so no clashes of file types. However, I usually always use Word since it has all the features I might need at some point.
Suit yourself. I rarely find a feature I wish was in Pages, and I've used it in my business every day for years. I am delighted not have to use the so-called "industry standard."
The industry standard is appalling, especially on the Mac, but that's what I have to use unfortunately. Sending documents to people (and that bloody .docx format that people send me) I have to use Office Word.
If Word was slimmed down, less bloaty and loaded as quickly as Pages, was responsive as Pages then I'd be happy. I use Pages when I know I won't have to submit the document in any other format than a PDF.
Me Too!
Simple questions: If I buy iWork '08 today, will I have to buy '09 when it comes out? Will the '08 version still work after a new version comes out?
Simple questions: If I buy iWork '08 today, will I have to buy '09 when it comes out? Will the '08 version still work after a new version comes out?
yes you will have to buy 09 if it comes out and you want 09
yes, 08 will still work just fine once 09 comes out
I find the entire concept of an "industry standard" to be appalling.
I send Word exports from Pages all the time -- never had a single complaint.
really? i got them all the time esp formatting. enough to stick with office easily
Really. All of our finished reports are produced as PDF files, but if a client needs to include our text in their reports, we export as a Word file and all is well. Formatting doesn't really matter much since they're going to completely reformat anything we send them anyway.
Most people cannot do that, unfortunately I might have to pick up a copy of office for the Mac.
Maybe this screenshot will help you understand.
I produced this in Pages with line spacing of 1.2. The text is:
This is going to test the spacing between things
One
Two
Three
Repeated throughout. When viewed in Pages, the 4 line pattern ends perfectly on the first page. When loaded in Word, it doesn't.
Pages
Word
That is just a simple example. When doing a lot of formatting, images, tables, the whole thing gets dreadful and just looks totally different, things in the wrong place when exported to .doc format.
I produced this in Pages with line spacing of 1.2. The text is:
This is going to test the spacing between things
One
Two
Three
Repeated throughout. When viewed in Pages, the 4 line pattern ends perfectly on the first page. When loaded in Word, it doesn't.
Pages
Word
That is just a simple example. When doing a lot of formatting, images, tables, the whole thing gets dreadful and just looks totally different, things in the wrong place when exported to .doc format.
But the reality is, different versions of Word particularly across platforms, are going to produce similar variations in results.
The second reality is, the vast majority of the time, you are sending a document to someone else for them to read, not edit. In that case, a PDF is what you should use. I really wish that message would be more clearly heard -- the vast majority of Word documents I receive should have been sent as PDF files.
The third reality is, in a collaboration environment, one person is going to be responsible for the final document and all of the formatting. At least they should be, anyway.
This I haven't seen, office 07 and 08 can open 03 and 04 files no problem. not sure what you mean here.
when I send someone a file they generally edit it as well. PDF is good if you have to read it but if you ever have to do more it's nice to have the ability to edit them as well.
I agree with you here.
They'll open of course, but across platforms in particular, you'll get some formatting variations, if only because fonts aren't handled the same way in Windows and OSX, and you will get font substitutions.
If you want them to edit it, yes -- but I'm surprised by the number of documents I get that aren't meant to be edited by me. You really want me to edit your resume? That sort of thing.
I also think it's kind of depressing that most documents are now created using only one of two fonts, Times and Arial -- which I think is a direct product of the idea that every document you create has to be "compatible" no matter where it's being sent.