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iWork 09
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Yeah, As long as they both have the same fonts. That's the only issue and that's not Microsoft's fault.
maybe if the export button would work, i would use pages more
but it doesnt, at least from my experience. when i have to export from pages to word, i then have to spend a lot of time reformatting everything to how i had it in pages. the reason i need word is well people with pc's will most likely have word or a program that can read word files.....cant do that with pages
so yes, formatting is the reason why ill stick to office when i have to share the document among users who are using office
It's not that bad between versions. I used to do a lot of cross-platform stuff between Word on the Mac and Word on the PC and never had a big issue with spacing.
Pages however, guarantees there will be a spacing issue.
Oh please no. The 5 paragraph essay format is the single worst thing to be inflicted on our youth's attempts to think critically. You should never use a 5 paragraph essay format if you are older than 14. People should learn how to write an effective paragraph instead.
[digress]
that's not true at all. The five paragraph structure is a great starting point and a good teaching tool. I usually start most papers as a five paragraph essay and then modify it until it's perfect. (perfect being relative)[/digress]
wish list
for Pages:
being able to open Word documents. iWork 08 frequently messes them up real bad.
being able to save documents in Word format without having to resort to the very inconvenient "export" button.
an option to enable AUTOSAVE
for Numbers:
make it ... work. I have a spreadsheet with 36K entries in it and Numbers does poopoo when I even think about opening this file with it. In my book this version of the application is called crapware.
for Pages:
being able to open Word documents. iWork 08 frequently messes them up real bad.
being able to save documents in Word format without having to resort to the very inconvenient "export" button.
an option to enable AUTOSAVE
for Numbers:
make it ... work. I have a spreadsheet with 36K entries in it and Numbers does poopoo when I even think about opening this file with it. In my book this version of the application is called crapware.
defiantly agree.
try using keynote and exporting that to powerpoint.
it just f's it up.
i have to give all my presentation's using pdf's
thats the only thing i can export to that's the same as keynote.
Three weeks until Macworld, and once again I'm a glutton for punishment. Assuming they make a release in the first quarter, what I'm hoping against hope for in iWork is OpenDocument format support. In whatever shape, form, or fashion I can get it.
I would LOVE to be able to open and save documents natively, but I can appreciate the features that Apple has tied into the format that use very iWork specific functions.
Still, ODF is designed to degrade gracefully with new function additions via extensions to the format, so with iWork Apple could add its own extensions to the format, have the documents editable by OpenOffice or other Office suites, and not destroy the document fidelity. Then, were they to join the ODF Alliance, they could work to bring these extensions into the specification proper.
Yeah, mountains to move before that is likely to happen... like I said, glutton for punishment with my hopes. I would just like to have better confidence that I can work with my documents across platforms and in 20 years after iWork is dead and gone... AND use an Office suite that's sexylicious.
I would LOVE to be able to open and save documents natively, but I can appreciate the features that Apple has tied into the format that use very iWork specific functions.
Still, ODF is designed to degrade gracefully with new function additions via extensions to the format, so with iWork Apple could add its own extensions to the format, have the documents editable by OpenOffice or other Office suites, and not destroy the document fidelity. Then, were they to join the ODF Alliance, they could work to bring these extensions into the specification proper.
Yeah, mountains to move before that is likely to happen... like I said, glutton for punishment with my hopes. I would just like to have better confidence that I can work with my documents across platforms and in 20 years after iWork is dead and gone... AND use an Office suite that's sexylicious.
I don't understand why people who are so hell-bent on Office compatibility don't just use Office. I hear complaint after complaint about "why doesn't Pages export perfectly to Word, why do I have to reformat every Keynote I export to PowerPoint?" etc., etc...
Just use Office if that's such a huge issue.
I dropped Office shortly after the initial introduction of iWork and do not have problems. If somebody at work wants an editable copy of a Keynote that they can use in PowerPoint, that's what they get - a PowerPoint file that they can edit. I'm not concerned that they don't have this build or that transition or that their app doesn't support masking, whatever. As far as I'm concerned, they should be happy that I did the bulk of the work for them (i.e. the research, etc.).
I use iWork. I love iWork (admittedly, Numbers needs some real help - but I don't use it much at all); and I'm not worried about what other people use. If they're interested in editing their own copies of my files, they can figure it out.
Lastly -
This iWork '09 cloud thing sounds kind of interesting. We'll have to wait until Macworld to hear about that one, though.
Just use Office if that's such a huge issue.
I dropped Office shortly after the initial introduction of iWork and do not have problems. If somebody at work wants an editable copy of a Keynote that they can use in PowerPoint, that's what they get - a PowerPoint file that they can edit. I'm not concerned that they don't have this build or that transition or that their app doesn't support masking, whatever. As far as I'm concerned, they should be happy that I did the bulk of the work for them (i.e. the research, etc.).
I use iWork. I love iWork (admittedly, Numbers needs some real help - but I don't use it much at all); and I'm not worried about what other people use. If they're interested in editing their own copies of my files, they can figure it out.
Lastly -
This iWork '09 cloud thing sounds kind of interesting. We'll have to wait until Macworld to hear about that one, though.
My requests for better compatibility with Office (mostly Word -- Powerpoint isn't as crucial in my world) stem from the fact that I much prefer the Pages interface and font rendering to that of Word. I write in more than one language and the way Pages renders the various fonts is far superior in my book. When I write in, say, classical Greek, it looks better and I can distinguish the various breathing marks and accents at a glance better in Pages than Word. The line spacing in Pages seems more consistent, the user interface is more intuitive (again, to me), and the list could go on. The problem is that I often (not always) have to send my work in an editable digital form to my dissertation committee, professors, colleagues, journals, etc. and that is where I want the increased compatibility -- to preserve all of the work I put into the original document. In the end, I can get a better looking (and better formatted) document easier in Pages, but it loses much of that when exported.
For starters, I see WYSIWYG!!! Very nice.
Also, files can be saved in .doc, .xls, or .ppt for the Save As dialog box (no exporting for those types).
Also, files can be saved in .doc, .xls, or .ppt for the Save As dialog box (no exporting for those types).
Is that functionality any different from export? You're still saving a copy, not the original file, right? It just seems like they consolidated Export and Save As in this case. I guess PDF export is just done through the Print dialog now.
I would have liked to see auto- formatting. It's a pain in the ass to have to type each definition, and then have to go back and highlight and bold each one. (when im doing definition lists for school)
Anyone playing with iWork '09 know if the following was added from '08, and I know this is nitpicky, but I would love a ruler display down the vertical edge of my word processing docs in Pages. I know a horizontal ruler can appear when rulers are displayed '08, but for the life of me, I cannot figure out how to install one on the left vertical edge. If I am missing something here and it is available in '08, please someone tell me I am an idiot and advise how I can do it. Otherwise, let me know if it was added in '09.
It would also be great if, in Pages, I could simply create and print an envelope. No complicated mail merge with contacts I have saved in Address Book; just the simple ability to create and print out an envelope with me inputting info as needed. It's very surprising this feature doesn't exist. Or, again, it does exist in '08 and I remain an idiot. Is it in '09?
One thing that definitely does not exist in '08 is auto-save in Pages. Any chance it made it into '09?
It would also be great if, in Pages, I could simply create and print an envelope. No complicated mail merge with contacts I have saved in Address Book; just the simple ability to create and print out an envelope with me inputting info as needed. It's very surprising this feature doesn't exist. Or, again, it does exist in '08 and I remain an idiot. Is it in '09?
One thing that definitely does not exist in '08 is auto-save in Pages. Any chance it made it into '09?
You can download the demo from http://www.apple.com/iwork/download-trial/ and see for yourself, but from what I see they did add vertical rulers (there's a new option underneath Preferences/Rulers.
Also, I did notice that a number of Envelope templates are now available in the Template Chooser.
Also, I did notice that a number of Envelope templates are now available in the Template Chooser.
Yeah, but when you fired up iWork it would always open that stupid template chooser and then you'd choose open recent and you'd end up with two windows, rather than just your document.