I bet it will be mid December. Christmas is a big App store sales time for Apple with the iOS devices. They would want to cash in on all those Macs at Christmas time too. It would be huge for Apple to get it ready by Christmas.
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iWork '11 to Launch Alongside Mac App Store in Early 2011?
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I bet it will be mid December. Christmas is a big App store sales time for Apple with the iOS devices. They would want to cash in on all those Macs at Christmas time too. It would be huge for Apple to get it ready by Christmas.
I'm concerned because as everyone knows, Apple is no fan of choice. And with time, I see the Mac App Store as being the only way of buying-installing apps. Only Apple approved ones.
Yes, I'm aware life moves on. However, computers are kind of important for my day-to day lifestyle. That kind of restriction would affect my productivity. It's OK on my phone, not my computer.
I know I'm probably making a big fuzz over nothing. But it could very well be the direction things take from now on. I'm just stating what's on my mind.
Cheers.
Yuck! That is what they will say after downloading Open Office and pay $20 for something nicer.
"No, seriously, what could iWork '11 have that the current generation of iWork doesn't have yet?"
in the spreadsheet; Command -D to fill down, Command R to rill right, and an easy way to get a full page landscape format graph. And editing formula's doesn't work right, when I want to click on cells to add them tot he formula, it keeps trying to add the contents or something. not what i want. That's just to start. Every time I try to do something more complex than a list, I seem to end up going to Open Office.
Pages isn't too bad, but I do most of my text work in textedit.
I only use keynote as a powerpoint viewer, and it seems to work fine at that.
in the spreadsheet; Command -D to fill down, Command R to rill right, and an easy way to get a full page landscape format graph. And editing formula's doesn't work right, when I want to click on cells to add them tot he formula, it keeps trying to add the contents or something. not what i want. That's just to start. Every time I try to do something more complex than a list, I seem to end up going to Open Office.
Pages isn't too bad, but I do most of my text work in textedit.
I only use keynote as a powerpoint viewer, and it seems to work fine at that.
Better compatibility with Office
A format option button for certain formats such as MLA and APA for writing papers that sets up all the guidelines for you
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You're underestimating Pages. I use it for my business marketing. Pages is much more powerful than many people give it credit for. Yeah, if I wanted to just type a simple document then Texteditor will do, even the built in one but Pages makes some of the most beautiful brochures and flyers for my business. There's nothing in MS Publisher (that's Windows anyway, Yuk) or MS Word that competes with Pages when it comes to templates and graphics. I get compliments of my Pages work all the time. People think I took them to my local printer and had them design them.
I never have these problems. Many (most?) people never have these problems. Sorry for your misfortune.
Well if Apple is really thinking of making iWork App Store exclusive then it seems like iLife would take the same path and then you might not see it be released as iLife 12 or 13 and they will just update certain apps in it individually and not have to release the updated bunch at the same time
say iWeb 12 one month
iMovie 12 the next month and so on
the elimination of a physical copy will then not dictate how they release it
so an updated version of iWeb could actually be released at any time after the app store launches
This macappstore is going to be just like the normal appstore after a while. They'll lock in users, and force developers to launch their apps only in the appstore. They can pull it off with their iDevices so what or who's stopping Apple from doing the same on the desktop?
I would totally buy Pages for $20. I haven't bought iWork because I don't need any of the other apps, so it sounds like a pretty good idea to me.
The tiny, minor little fact that OS X isn't locked down? Maybe?
Says who? My iPod touch 4th gen is better than my 2nd gen. My Mac Pro is better than my G5 Power Mac (specifically, hard drive access is way better). 10.6 is...well, about the same as 10.4. Some things are better and some things are worse.
--Eric
The tiny, minor little fact that OS X isn't locked down? Maybe?
Says who? My iPod touch 4th gen is better than my 2nd gen. My Mac Pro is better than my G5 Power Mac (specifically, hard drive access is way better). 10.6 is...well, about the same as 10.4. Some things are better and some things are worse.
--Eric
Great move for Apple if they use an App Store only distribution! This will cut down significantly on pirating!! The Mac App Store is great news for all software developers!
If the Mac App Store was the only way to get Apps, then all we would have are bird throwing games and fart apps.
The Mac App Store will be a nice distribution method, but some Apps that I love like handbreak, iStat Pro, SMC fan control, etc wouldn't be let through. I'm glad OSX isn't locked down like iOS.
Great news. I love iWork and hope the new version is a major update.
My main hope is there is finally a decent cloud syncing strategy. The data center opens in December, and if this launches mid-January, the timing should be perfect for a true syncing solution.
My main hope is there is finally a decent cloud syncing strategy. The data center opens in December, and if this launches mid-January, the timing should be perfect for a true syncing solution.
But you don't have developers unless they have a free scratch space in which to work....
At the moment the iOS lock down only works because the MacOSX development environment is open for play by developers. Look at any of the curated or locked down platforms (console game, embedded systems,...) they all have the development hosted on a free range environment.
So they can't lock down the Mac without opening up iOS.
Plus it would be a hell of a job locking down Darwin.
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I wonder if Apple will add Albums to the app stores.
Sorry "Software suites" but handle them just like music albums, with suite only apps and of "complete my suite" options.
Here we go again.
This is all speculation at this point. If they are offering the apps in iWork '11 separately for 20 bucks a pop I think we can see more of the same lameness we saw in the iLife '11 update.
I use the word update loosely since it was a pathetic bit of tweaking that they slapped together in a couple of weeks just to have something to turn in.
I wish I were more into iPhone's and Ipad's because that's were the magic is with Apple these days. Everything else is slowly getting less and less attention.
Can you imagine Apple just a few years ago releasing an update to iLife and leaving two programs untouched?
I am predicting in the future I'll be looking at the Apple website using my Windows 9 laptop that cost much less.
Can you imagine Jobs saying Firewire "just isn't catching on", like he did about usb 3.0. We used to see the latest and greatest on the Mac.
Now we're seeing a lock down of what we'll be able to get. Developers will move to Windows for the profit.
Feel free to flame away Apple fanboys. I was once one of you.
This is all speculation at this point. If they are offering the apps in iWork '11 separately for 20 bucks a pop I think we can see more of the same lameness we saw in the iLife '11 update.
I use the word update loosely since it was a pathetic bit of tweaking that they slapped together in a couple of weeks just to have something to turn in.
I wish I were more into iPhone's and Ipad's because that's were the magic is with Apple these days. Everything else is slowly getting less and less attention.
Can you imagine Apple just a few years ago releasing an update to iLife and leaving two programs untouched?
I am predicting in the future I'll be looking at the Apple website using my Windows 9 laptop that cost much less.
Can you imagine Jobs saying Firewire "just isn't catching on", like he did about usb 3.0. We used to see the latest and greatest on the Mac.
Now we're seeing a lock down of what we'll be able to get. Developers will move to Windows for the profit.
Feel free to flame away Apple fanboys. I was once one of you.
WOW, you summed up how i feel with Apple perfectly... I honestly had the same exact thoughts... Apple is spending probably 90 percent of their time on iOs...I really think if Apple continues with this pace as far as Mac OS, I may have to actually switch back to windows..
No we're not. Not in any sense.
What? Strange how this topic seems to make people post random things that don't make any sense.
--Eric
Don't be hatin bro.
I game on CRT TV's. You expect me to kick ass on XBL with a 6ms response time on my TV. Ya no.
Plus, my 19" CRT fell and broke (RIP) so I asked my friends if anyone had an old TV they didn't want. Guess who got a 25" CRT for free. This guy.
Back on topic.
I like the thought of the separate apps at a cheaper price. And, like most people said, I don't mind an app store as long as I can still download things elsewhere as well.
All the apps: better drawing tools, autosave, ability to park toolbar items above the inspector, more intelligent pasting into tables, non-ugly location for styles, more line styles, some way of changing the default settings (for fills, line, shaddow, etc), easier editing of rotated text (ie not off the screen).
Keynote: Better interactivity so that it can be used with interactive whiteboards (live movement of objects on the display screen, widgets, physics, etc). And since IWB are just touch screens, deploy the same interactivity to local iPads. Or go in a different direction and improve the way Keynote can be used for digital signage. Steve's smokin' animation build. Tweening for object builds (magic move for builds).
Pages: More intelligent behaviour when changing zoom level (ie don't jump page), improved layout tools (increased zoom and position accuracy), make it easier to select objects (bring back precision from previous version?), make copying and pasting objects better (not revert to original size when object is a pdf)
Numbers: way to hide sidebar completely, copy and pasting of multiple styles, more of excel's functions.
Just a few I've thought of.
Perhaps you don't do much with your Mac. Of all the apps I've bought for my Mac (20-30), only one is available as boxed software - iWork. To brand people that purchase software electronically as "the iToy crowd" is just insulting.