Also, another thing that's gone through my mind is that I may have had a problem because I tried to jb before setting up the phone via itunes at all. I want to restore the 3gs to my 3g settings, but I know I don't want to update to 3.1.3 in the process. During an initial restore, will I be able to successfully manually load an ipsw built by pwnage tool? That's what I couldn't get to happen without an error in my previous attempt, despite multiple tries. Is that possibly because I tried blackrain first?
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Also, another thing that's gone through my mind is that I may have had a problem because I tried to jb before setting up the phone via itunes at all. I want to restore the 3gs to my 3g settings, but I know I don't want to update to 3.1.3 in the process. During an initial restore, will I be able to successfully manually load an ipsw built by pwnage tool? That's what I couldn't get to happen without an error in my previous attempt, despite multiple tries. Is that possibly because I tried blackrain first?
I did read of your intent to swap out the phone. When you do, make sure you get a good tutorial.
I recommend using DevTeam tools and avoiding Blackra1n. Since the new phone will likely also have the new bootrom, read up on the tethered jailbreak because after you complete the initial JB, you have to re-run Redsn0w or Blackra1n to restart the phone despite the message you get in iTunes.
There are some great threads here by thelatinest, one is about tethered jailbreaks.
You clearly didnt bother researching how to JB an iphone 3GS on 3.1.2
If you did you would have found tons of step by step tutorials.
If you try to use blackrain you dont put the phone to DFU mode. you just plug it in and run blackrain and its done.
By putting it in dfu restore mode you restored and upgraded the firmware and baseband. You can try returning it but that is not a guarantee that you will get another iphone 3GS with 3.1.2
Not much else you can do but learn from your mistake and dont try to rush into anything you're not positive you know what you're doing.
Although some of the posts are interesting to read, I agree with your sound advice--wishing something over and over won't make it happen. I have ATT because it allows me to talk to the people I want to talk to and for them to talk to me without using minutes--so if iPhone was on say Verison, I would have some other smart phone and not an iPhone. And I do believe I would not be contemplating suicide because of it.
I didn't choose to put it into DFU mode. That's how it restarted. What I'm trying to figure out is why the pwnage tool-built ipsw didn't work.
You probably had a tethered JB 3GS with the newer bootrom.
All you had to do is run blackrain again and it would have turned on.
Why would you take a perfectly good 3GS and try something you admittedly know nothing about ??
Since you updated to 3.1.3 and do not have your SHSH blobs saved, you cannot downgrade the phone or unlock it.
Read this thread... (except you didn't accidentally update, you forced yourself into updating) https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/861221/
On another note, I've been trying to figure out how to save my SHSH (for my jb 3g) to cydia. (I don't have an expert understanding of this, but I do get the basics and definitely understand the point and benefit.) I've never gotten the message on cydia about "making your life easier" or what not, so I tried to follow Saurik's directions. I'm man enough to admit I don't know what I'm doing in that regard, or where to find the file mentioned.
I ran blackrain multiple times and never got anywhere. I tried creating multiple ipsw's with pwnage tool and never got anywhere. That's why I'm here.
You made sure your iphone was functional, activated and working right?
without putting it in DFU mode you just plug it into usb and click one button thats it. Theres nothing more to it. If it didnt turn on after restart all you do is run blackrain again.
More details here.
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=5885
Yes, the phone was (and is) working fine, just not jb. It was activated in-store, brought it home w/ 3.1.2, downloaded blackrain, plugged the phone in, ran blackrain, and it restarted to DFU. I ran blackrain a second and third time, tried PT's ipsw, and no matter what, couldn't lose the DFU screen. At that point, I unfortunately didn't have any choice but to restore to 3.1.3
Of course custom IPSWs did not work for you. Your phone cannot be pwned, and therefore cannot be restored to a custom firmware. As for blackra1n, AppleJuiced is totally right: if you had run blackra1n while you were sitting at the recovery screen (USB & iTunes), it would probably have booted your phone right up.
Whatever you say but that is not possible.
If you followed those simple directions it would have worked just like it did with thousands and thousands of people.
It doesnt matter at the moment anyway, you dont need to convince any of us here.
There is no SHSH for 3G phones, only for 3GS. 3G phones can be upgraded and downgraded at will and JB on any firmware.
You clearly don't have an adequate understanding of firmwares and jailbreaking. Do yourself a favor and use Google to research whatever you wish to do BEFORE trying it.
Look we all started out where you are today. The difference is that most of us never tried hacking the phone until we had a guaranteed understanding of what we were doing before making the first keystroke. If you take shortcuts, you fail !
Look at all the recent threads here pleading for help. What do they all have in common. Lack of research before upgrading, trying to JB/unlock or before buying a phone so as to get one in a state that will let your make the modifications you wish to make.
I'm not trying to convince anybody. You replying shows that you're interested enough to help me out, which is all that I'm concerned with. I'm sure something is lost in translation between you (an expert) and me (not so much). All I know is that I love my jb 3g. I would like to have a 3gs because my phone is bogged down and running slowly (at least in comparison), because i'd like the camera improvements, the compass, the nike+, etc. However, I greatly prefer having lockinfo, sms quick reply, ipod pop, and various other little things.
By spending the time here, I hope you can all infer that I previously spent time elsewhere trying to make this process as simple as possible for me. Obviously, that didn't work out. You guys are all taking the time to respond and trying to help me out, which is much, much appreciated. Since you're willing to do that, can you tell me the best, simplest way for me to get from point A to point B? I don't want or expect anyone to write a tutorial because I know they're out there, but I would seriously appreciate it if someone could point me to a specific one that will help me because obviously I haven't found the right one. For instance, in my reading of dev team's blog (specifically this entry) I understood that I'd be able to jb. I know that entry is old, but based on my understanding, I thought it still applied to me. This isn't my area of expertise, but I'm usually a quick learner. I hardly know anyone with an iphone nevermind anyone with a jb one, so I have to figure this stuff out on my own as best I can. I really do appreciate all of your time and concern and look forward to getting this done. I just don't want to spend the money getting a different 3gs just to end up failing again.
okay you are going to be disappointed in this because you didnt research jailbreaking a 3gs before you actually bought one. First off, thats recovery mode, not dfu mode. Second, pwnage will not work on 3GS's with the new bootrom, which your phone, and the next iphone 3gs you buy will have. Thirdly, when you jailbreak with blackra1n and it sends you into recovery mode, this is because you have a tethered jailbreak. You need to rerun blackra1n to turn on the phone, and need to run it every time you want to turn it on. Tethered jailbreaks are current only with the new jailbreaks. Geohot says there will never be another untethered jailbreak, according to what I read today. The new bootroms are one of Apple's ways to try to prevent jailbreaking. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you can only use redsn0w or blackra1n on 3GS's with the new bootrom. Pwnage tool, (any version), will NOT work. If you upgrade your iPhone, then you will not be able to jailbreak, or unlock with any jailbreaking method for your model. You will not be able to downgrade, meaning that you cant jailbreak at all. Period.
I agree completely, my knowledge isn't where it needs to be at the moment. The problem is that I did a lot of research when I jb my 3g last year, and obviously managed to do so successfully. I apparently have grossly underestimated what has changed over the past year. I'll admit, this isn't my hobby or an area of expertise for me. I'm a teacher, I'm going back to school to advance my ability in that arena, and I honestly WISH I had the mind to wrap my head around all of this the way you guys do. That being said, I did spend a good deal of time trying to understand what I needed to do for the 3gs, but I obviously failed.
IMO you cant go wrong with Iclarified tutorials.
Start researching at this page and you will find tons of info with step by step and pictures.
http://www.iclarified.com/entries/index.php?caid=2&scid=11
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=5432
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=7425
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=5885
Start researching at this page and you will find tons of info with step by step and pictures.
http://www.iclarified.com/entries/index.php?caid=2&scid=11
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=5432
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=7425
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=5885
well you upgrade with out looking to see f it was safe.
you used blackra1n which is not good
you assumed since your 3g can be jailbroken your 3gs could.
you looked a 1 form for a couple of days.
@dubox22
As a teacher certainly you understand that Google is the tool of the century.
Don't forget about it. It works for every one of us if you just take time to utilize it.
It will lead you to the knowledge you need to succeed.
As a teacher certainly you understand that Google is the tool of the century.
Don't forget about it. It works for every one of us if you just take time to utilize it.
It will lead you to the knowledge you need to succeed.
Thanks, I appreciate it. The biggest hurdle for me is that there is so much information out there and a lot of it seems to conflict. For instance, what the previous poster just wrote (post #90). That tells me I should just give up now. Then you give me this link, which leads to this, saying the exact opposite, but not mentioning newer bootroms. It seems overly difficult to find one place that addresses every concern. That's why I've always stuck to reading dev-team's blog, because it addresses every level of iphone in a coherent manner.
If you zero in on what you want to do, the specific info is available. Details are critical to succeed doing these modifications as everything becomes more technical.
I agree, Google can't be beat when it's used correctly and when you know exactly what you're looking for. But as a teacher, I can assure you that it is the greatest hindrance otherwise. Think Wikipedia.
I agree, Google can't be beat when it's used correctly and when you know exactly what you're looking for. But as a teacher, I can assure you that it is the greatest hindrance otherwise. Think Wikipedia.
If you tell Google what you want, it will take you there.
If I Google "I want to jailbreak a brand new 3GS iPhone with 3.1.2 firmware" I guarantee I will get exactly the info I need to do it.
Wikee may be OK, but the jailbreak news is in the jailbreak community and Google will point you the way.
Perhaps you need to start thinking outside the box.
Well in addition to the snide comments, I'm glad you can guarantee that. Can you guarantee that every result in such a search will each give the same information? Because I guarantee not. You're right, the information I need will be there if I Google that or any other similar phrase, but it will be interspersed amongst misinformation that I may or may not be able to separate.