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Jailbreaking = Software Piracy?
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She spoke cydia as sidia (as well as butchering the spelling) in her dialog.
Thank you for at least reading my post.
Ah, but not everything that's illegal is wrong, and not everything that's wrong is illegal.
The law defines what is illegal, but who defines what is wrong. Is something wrong simply because it's defined as undesirable in T+Cs? Similarly, is it wrong to double-charge for a service, or might this even be border lining on illegal?
As far as I'm concerned, I have paid for a certain allowance of data per month, paying for it again is wrong. Maybe providers need to go back to charging for exact data volumes used, independently of how this data is consumed.
*Except for Apple software. That's okay.
Except apple software? Piracy is stealing apps like from the app store. Just because someone makes a new app like biteSMS that apple doesn't approve doesn't make it piracy. You just jailbreak to run modified software but your not pirating ****... A judge made it legal to jailbreak. So you aren't pirating apple software when it wasn't apples .. Hence why it's on cydia store not apples store..
All people who state this do so because they steal apps and use this as a perverted rationalization, i.e., Stealers and losers of a feather flock together.
I was curious, what claim do developers have if people pirate their apps, i was thinking about Cydia developers in particular. Since they are releasing their apps through "illegitimate channels" do they have the same coverage as those who go through the app store?
I have install0us installed, but when there are 8 apps ranging from 1 to 20 dollars doing the same thing, you want to try some of them before choosing.
The jungle of calculators, the mass of navigation apps, and the ocean of other stupid apps, and good once too.
Ive used lots of money in the app store, and cause of "trying before buying" I've always been happy about the money I've spent.
Also the money I've spent in Cydia.
because of the jailbreak, I didn't bring my computer to Asia, just my iPad. Because of iFile, XBMC, iTransmission, Tab+, Fast Copy, Iconoclasm, Infinidock, Maps Enhancer, Safari Download Manager, YourTube HD. (All of these apps made my vacation better, but loosing any of the bolded apps I would have needed to have my Mac with me)
The jungle of calculators, the mass of navigation apps, and the ocean of other stupid apps, and good once too.
Ive used lots of money in the app store, and cause of "trying before buying" I've always been happy about the money I've spent.
Also the money I've spent in Cydia.
because of the jailbreak, I didn't bring my computer to Asia, just my iPad. Because of iFile, XBMC, iTransmission, Tab+, Fast Copy, Iconoclasm, Infinidock, Maps Enhancer, Safari Download Manager, YourTube HD. (All of these apps made my vacation better, but loosing any of the bolded apps I would have needed to have my Mac with me)
Piracy is also the unauthorized use of copyrighted software.
If you'd read further into the thread, you'd see that I agree with you for the most part. As long as the software you install doesn't modify the OS to provide additional functionality that isn't available to standard apps.
No, the Library of Congress issued an opinion that created an exception to the DMCA to allow jailbreaking in order to install otherwise compatible and licensed apps.
So you aren't pirating apple software when it wasn't apples .. Hence why it's on cydia store not apples store..
Unless that software that you download from Cydia modifies iOS in order to provide additional functionality to the app.
The fundamental error in this thread is the misinterpretation of piracy.
Baldimac has explained correctly several times, yet no one has taken the time to readjust their erroneous equivalence of piracy and "downloading software without paying"
Baldimac has explained correctly several times, yet no one has taken the time to readjust their erroneous equivalence of piracy and "downloading software without paying"
So, it's OK to "download software without paying" as long as I don't use it since that'd be "unauthorized use of copyrighted software."
Perhaps we could get Baldimac to explain pedant.
Ah, but not everything that's illegal is wrong, and not everything that's wrong is illegal.
The law defines what is illegal, but who defines what is wrong. Is something wrong simply because it's defined as undesirable in T+Cs? Similarly, is it wrong to double-charge for a service, or might this even be border lining on illegal?
As far as I'm concerned, I have paid for a certain allowance of data per month, paying for it again is wrong. Maybe providers need to go back to charging for exact data volumes used, independently of how this data is consumed.
That usage of the data is yours and mine interpretation. AT&T and others here have a different interpretation as will a judge.
Art doesn't dictate how I use my minutes allotment but they sure as hell try to tell me how to use my data.
I carry guilt in my bags and the room that is not occupied surely isn't reserved for AT&T.
I tether when needed, which is occasionally.
AT&T speeds where I tether are miserable in the first place so long term tethering is barely tolerable. These aren't peak times either, I am talking after midnight.
5GB is 5GB just as a five and 5 ones is $10.
YOMV
Do you have a point or are you just complaining about what people are discussing? It's hard to believe you could consider discussion of copyright law pedantic, since we probably wouldn't have the internet without it.
And, FWIW, piracy also covers unauthorized reproduction in addition to unauthorized use.
Your answer would make a lawyer proud since, while correct, is totally useless.
According to your definition, someone could download (not buy) the software and as long as they do not use or reproduce it, that's OK. Yep, people do that all the time on the Internet.
This poll isn't worded correctly.
Perhaps it should state: SOME people jailbreak to get applications for free. or maybe: I jailbroke to get applications for free.
Perhaps it should state: SOME people jailbreak to get applications for free. or maybe: I jailbroke to get applications for free.
I use JB to get cydia utilities like iannounce, stampr, iretina gui, open notifier, etc. Apple doesn't offer this in their phones (yet).
I don't pirate existing app store programs, so I have to disagree with the poll that JBers pirate app store programs.
I don't pirate existing app store programs, so I have to disagree with the poll that JBers pirate app store programs.
Do you want to discuss something besides semantics? Downloading software from the internet requires making a copy (aka reproduction).
And I was defining the word "piracy", not giving a complete rundown of copyright law.
I myself didn't have piracy in mind the first time I did a Jailbreak, but I'm guilty of a small amount of pirating in the past. My reason was simply for 3G Unrestrictor back when I first got the 3GS cause Youtube was unwatchable on 3G unless you installed 3G Unrestrictor.
Now whether Jailbreaking is a gateway to piracy on the iPhone? That's the real question. But I don't believe most users jailbreak with the initial intent to pirate, whether they end up pirating or not.
Now whether Jailbreaking is a gateway to piracy on the iPhone? That's the real question. But I don't believe most users jailbreak with the initial intent to pirate, whether they end up pirating or not.
Eh say what you want. Its legal to jailbrake sorrys. Im not stealing apps from the app store .. just using ones that do not exist on the app store. Sorry thats legal now and your just tryin to start a flame war
.Yes this is true. However, I think whether or not someone chooses to do it is when it is piracy. If you see someone using Installous, then it is confirmed definitely that some pirating of apps have gone on. IF you do not get pirated apps, then jailbreaking is just hacking, but not any hacking that is a threat to publishers with piracy.
maybe you missed the whole bit about me exaggerating.... Or do I need to copy and paste the definition of that as well.
Not sure what you are apologizing for. I agree with you.
Good for you!
Sorry thats legal now and your just tryin to start a flame war
No war. Just discussion. Kinda the point of the forum. If you disagree with me, it would be nice if you explained why or provided sources to back your opinion.
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I hate morons.... Jailbreaking is not piracy, piracy is piracy... Jailbreaking is opening up ur device to custom the code to your liking.. It's like buying a car and costuming the headlights... Downloading illegally cracked apps is piracy...
I hate morons.... Jailbreaking is not piracy, piracy is piracy... Jailbreaking is opening up ur device to custom the code to your liking.. It's like buying a car and costuming the headlights... Downloading illegally cracked apps is piracy...