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The Los Angeles Times reports that it has received information from a source claiming that Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg recently dined at Steve Jobs' home in Palo Alto to discuss how the two companies might be able to settle their differences and come to an agreement for working together on Ping, Apple's music-focused social networking feature rolled out in iTunes 10 last month.
They are two of Silicon Valley's most famous founders: Jobs created the world's must-have gadgets, Zuckerberg the world's most popular social networking service. These days they are often mentioned in the same breath. Now apparently the two also recently broke bread.

Apparently Jobs invited Zuckerberg for dinner at his house to talk about Ping two weeks ago. That's when a tipster spotted them on a stroll in Palo Alto.
According to earlier reports, Apple and Facebook had talked for at least 18 months about working together on Ping but were unable to come to an agreement, with Jobs citing "onerous terms" being insisted upon by Facebook. Apple attempted to roll out Ping with barebones Facebook integration in the form of Facebook Connect for helping users find their friends who had already created Ping profiles, but Facebook quickly yanked Apple's access to the feature.

While the two companies have apparently yet to reach an agreement for any level of integration with Ping now six weeks old, one Facebook executive recently noted that he is "very confident" that a deal will be struck.

Article Link: Jobs and Zuckerberg Reportedly Discussed Ping Over Dinner Earlier This Month
 
...unable to come to an agreement, with Jobs citing "onerous terms" being insisted upon by Facebook.
The irony is rich. Jobs seems to be getting a taste of his own medicine. Facebook doesn't need Apple, but Apple's ridiculous ping thing needs some help.
 
Maybe it is not just over Ping, but the whole integration into iLife, iChat w/video calling and more?
 
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Apple + iTunes + Social Network = Ping

Where can Facebook go in that equasion? :(
 
I agree, I can understand why Apple wants to get into the social scene, but I'm not a fan of ping, also most of the artists I listen to there is no support for ... at least not yet..
 
Fair Trade: iOS for Facebook

Apple just needs to offer something that Facebook would value: give Facebook native integration in iOS and the social network will never be beat by any of its emerging rivals.

It's clear that Apple's iOS will lead the next phase in personal computer history. If Facebook is allowed to piggy back on it and Apple is able to piggy back on Facebook's success, both will win.
 
Ping has potential

I see myself potentially like this. Having a social net focused on music, built in to iTunes is both convenient and keeps such discussion separate from other social networking that I use. Granted bridging Ping with others (ala Facebook and Ping) would be nice but having it separate by default is actually what I want in this case.

iTunes is unique compared to other apps in that it is largely a "read-only" medium (for most people) where you just listen/watch stuff. Adding Ping to it adds some nice capabilities making it more of a "read/write" medium, like most other apps ... so It doesn't seem as added bloat.
 
Apple gains more from this deal than Facebook, that's why they can't settle on an agreement.

Apple has the gadgets, the tools, the design and the money. What they need is more users. What better than linking into a network with 500 Million users through one deal?
What does Facebook get in return? More users? I doubt it! Money? Maybe. Apart from that, Job needs to find a good argument for Zuckerberg to hand over the Key to the 500 Million users.
 
The irony is rich. Jobs seems to be getting a taste of his own medicine.

Bitter much? I'd ask what that 'medicine' is, but the fact is you don't have a clue.

"Facebook doesn't need Apple, but Apple's ridiculous ping thing needs some help."

Apple is one of the two or three biggest, most profitable companies on the planet. Facebook runs at a deficit. Yeah, they've got Apple over a barrel all right.

Get a clue.

the best feature of this forum is the ability to turn off the viewing of signatures

Uh huh. Hey, what would be REALLY great is the ability to turn off lame posters like you.
 
...give Facebook native integration in iOS and the social network will never be beat by any of its emerging rivals.

I thought this was a cool feature for my HTC Hero until I realized that my whole contact list was bloated with phone #s of "friends" who I will never have any need to call. I know the integration is an option, and I would hope that any integration that might happen at the OS level would be completely and totally optional, all. I know FB is a lumbering giant, but more and more I feel like it's encroaching upon way too many things.
 
Tyrant #1 vs Egoistical bastard #2

Man, that sure was a showdown. Things aside, in this case, Apple needs from Facebook... not the other way around. Facebook already has the artists and people, it wouldn't be that hard to introduce a Ping-like solution.
 
Tyrant #1 vs Egoistical bastard #2

Man, that sure was a showdown. Things aside, in this case, Apple needs from Facebook... not the other way around. Facebook already has the artists and people, it wouldn't be that hard to introduce a Ping-like solution.

I don't know which is which.

It's nice seeing Jobs being slapped by his own iron pan.
 
Where they went for dinner.

Wherever they went for dinner ... I am sure it wasn't for Costco hot dogs ...
 
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