death grip ********! I am simply holding it in my hand, and the signal drops. STOP passing this off on death grip nonesense. Some of the phone are defective. Becuase you don't have one doesn't mean that those of us with defective phones don't know how to hold them. Idiot!
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Jobs says Signal Strength a "non issue"
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death grip ********! I am simply holding it in my hand, and the signal drops. STOP passing this off on death grip nonesense. Some of the phone are defective. Becuase you don't have one doesn't mean that those of us with defective phones don't know how to hold them. Idiot!
In areas with a poor to average signal, perhaps it could be a significant issue. However I have full signal in my area, and even with a deathgrip on it I only lose one to two bars at the most.
The current explanation that I've noticed floating around is that there is coating of some kind (obviously dielectric in nature) that is supposed to be on every single iPhone 4 before leaving the factory and the coating is applied only to the antenna bands/chassis components.
The current explanation says that the coating process wasn't 100% successful for every single iPhone 4 that's been shipped so far, hence the potential reason for why some folks have this issue and can replicate it quite easily and others cannot make it happen at all no matter what they do.
There's a report from one ABC TV affiliate of a customer that had such an issue with his brand new iPhone 4, took it back and they replaced it on the spot with one that did not have this particular issue even when comparing both phones in the same store in the same manner and obviously off the same cell site.
That would lend a lot of credence to the coating explanation. What it doesn't explain is why Apple neglected to mention such a coating and also that this coating - as all coatings do - will obviously degrade over time and leave the phone in a condition where this issue is just as prevalent as it is right now for anyone with an iPhone 4 that potentially doesn't have said coating.
While no one from Apple has said in any official capacity that this "coating" exists and could be or most likely is the reason for all this hubbub right now, I'm leaning towards it being the explanation.
Regardless, it is a very real issue despite some folks not believing it is. You may simply have a "coated" model and should consider yourself fortunate to have one because many others apparently don't. Just because you may not be suffering from this issue, others are, so take that into consideration before posting.
As for Steve Jobs' rather pathetic answer of "Just avoid holding it that way." is a slap in the face to every iPhone 4 owner or prospective buyer and he just basically told every one of you "Hey, I know this stuff better than you, the phone works, you're the one with the problem" like he does every time Apple gets themselves in something they don't care to deal with.
This one isn't going to get swept under a rug, Steve. Deal with it.
The current explanation says that the coating process wasn't 100% successful for every single iPhone 4 that's been shipped so far, hence the potential reason for why some folks have this issue and can replicate it quite easily and others cannot make it happen at all no matter what they do.
There's a report from one ABC TV affiliate of a customer that had such an issue with his brand new iPhone 4, took it back and they replaced it on the spot with one that did not have this particular issue even when comparing both phones in the same store in the same manner and obviously off the same cell site.
That would lend a lot of credence to the coating explanation. What it doesn't explain is why Apple neglected to mention such a coating and also that this coating - as all coatings do - will obviously degrade over time and leave the phone in a condition where this issue is just as prevalent as it is right now for anyone with an iPhone 4 that potentially doesn't have said coating.
While no one from Apple has said in any official capacity that this "coating" exists and could be or most likely is the reason for all this hubbub right now, I'm leaning towards it being the explanation.
Regardless, it is a very real issue despite some folks not believing it is. You may simply have a "coated" model and should consider yourself fortunate to have one because many others apparently don't. Just because you may not be suffering from this issue, others are, so take that into consideration before posting.
As for Steve Jobs' rather pathetic answer of "Just avoid holding it that way." is a slap in the face to every iPhone 4 owner or prospective buyer and he just basically told every one of you "Hey, I know this stuff better than you, the phone works, you're the one with the problem" like he does every time Apple gets themselves in something they don't care to deal with.
This one isn't going to get swept under a rug, Steve. Deal with it.
I'm not justifying Jobs' response in any way at all, but do you even know what communism means? I hate it when Americans use the words "Socialism" and "Communism" because most of you have no idea what either is.
even with a deathgrip......i dont loose mines with low/average service and same for full service and i have a video to show it. (sorry about posting the video up so much)....i just want to show everyone that not everyone is affected.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zehL4z__G-o
You are so RIGHT, my thought is that Steve just hasn't been made aware of the specifics of it, he has always done the right thing in the past (for the most part) and I feel that he will for this as well once he realizes that some things got past quality control that were unexpected.
iphone 4's first wifi problem emerged during SJ's demo @ WWDC a few weeks ago
......ladies and gentlemen, please switch off your wifi devices........
SJ had the iphone 4 in his left hand "holding it wrong"
......ladies and gentlemen, please switch off your wifi devices........
SJ had the iphone 4 in his left hand "holding it wrong"
So I wake up this morning and find this... all real and true!
OMG...
I think SJ has just reached pinnacle of his arrogance and can't be bigger rectum than this... Unbelievable >_<
This guy obviously understands only one kind of language - boycott!
I know I am boycotting everything to do with iOS and I suggest everyone affected to do the same...
Ridiculous!
I'm a developer and came across the iOS 4.0.1 source code. Curiously, this piece of code stuck out at me:
signal_strength = signal_strength+3;
if (signal_strength > 5)
{
signal_strength = 5;
}
Can anyone explain what that bit of code might do?
I see what you did there.
"Just avoid holding it that way"
+1
Sigh....
a) Time Capsule power failure
b) iMac 27" fiasco
and now...
c) iPhone 4
WTF!!! Have these products tested from peeps whom are SOBER and have it built in the US and/or Germany for gawd sakes
+1
Sigh....
a) Time Capsule power failure
b) iMac 27" fiasco
and now...
c) iPhone 4
WTF!!! Have these products tested from peeps whom are SOBER and have it built in the US and/or Germany for gawd sakes
I'm a developer and came across the iOS 4.0.1 source code. Curiously, this piece of code stuck out at me:
signal_strength = signal_strength+3;
if (signal_strength > 5)
{
signal_strength = 5;
}
Can anyone explain what that bit of code might do?
Make People Shut the F Up?? Ignorance is Bliss
AAPL stock is ripe for a sharp plunge anyway. This technical and now PR screw-up courtesy of the ever arrogant SJ will be the catalyst for the impending fall and cost the company tens of billions of dollars in lost market value.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-is-flashing-some-technical-warning-signs-2010-06-25
I'm glad I sold my AAPL stock last week and went heavily short in the run-up to this defective product's launch.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-is-flashing-some-technical-warning-signs-2010-06-25
I'm glad I sold my AAPL stock last week and went heavily short in the run-up to this defective product's launch.
apple stays failing this year. Dont forget the ipad wifi issues. and him calling it a netbook killer. that cant print. or do alot of things netbooks can do, facetime included by way of skype.
Interesting. What changed in the pinouts? There's the 30-pin and there's a headphone jack. What changed between the 3GS and 4? (I'm using an original iPhone, so maybe I'm missing something)
As for the antenna thing, this isn't anything new. The old nokia 8200s went from full to zero if you hold it too high. I have the original iPhone and it gets worse if I hold it too low. I think my old RAZR v3c has it's antenna on the bottom too. The only phones I didn't have to change how I held them were the Moto e815, Moto v120c, and the Startac. Google for a picture of those three and you'll see why.
As for the number of bars, people? Really? Like that's scientific. Antennas have to be a specific length and alignment from the transmitter for the best reception. Plus a "bar" is arbitrary. AND these bars don't update instantaneously either. Depending on the power saving design, some update faster than others, possibly over a couple minutes, differing even from the firmware of the same model of phone.
Know what I used to do to help get better wifi in college? Rotate my laptop around its center and keep scanning. If that fails, do it while one side's propped up like 15 degrees and try again. Eventually you'l find that one angle helps just a little more when you know the station's far out there and you're desperate for wifi.
Whatever your source is submit it to MR and it might end up the homepage, that would be HUGE news if its true.
In all fairness the 3gs wasnt doing so hot either. See that video link I posted on the last page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQOPFg2mo --- It was still in my clipboard, this is the same link.
My 3gs had this problem. It is only slightly worse on the iphone4. I put my case on and there are no more issues at all. I really think people are TRYING to find as many things wrong as they can. Just load up some Real Racing and enjoy the HUGELY improved gyroscope controls And the awesome clear graphics!
And the awesome clear graphics!Those were demo phones for the Keynote and were most likely not activated on the AT&T network (Or at least the backup phone wasn't as I'm sure he had one activated when he placed the phone call for the Facetime demo at the end). Pay attention the the first error that came up which indicates this is probably the case.
Either way, the error came up immediately which is not what seems to be happening to people who are reporting this problem. Instead they simply can't load the page or the active phone call drops.
That's the whole point. Without a bumper you get the thinnest phone with great reception, if you hold the phone on the right side, since the antenna is on the outside.
You you want a bigger phone, buy a bumper, or a competitor's phone where the shell is bigger as if it had a bumper anyway to hide its antenna.
User choice.
I'm a developer and came across the iOS 4.0.1 source code. Curiously, this piece of code stuck out at me:
signal_strength = signal_strength+3;
if (signal_strength > 5)
{
signal_strength = 5;
}
Can anyone explain what that bit of code might do?
this code i found is more compelling
Code:
iPhone = true;
switch (CEO)
{
case smug: iPhone = false; break;
case douchebag: iPhone = false; break;
case f0kwad: iPhone = false; break;
default: iPhone = true;
}Did Jobs really say to just hold it differently? First Apple does nothing at all about our wifi problems with the iPad and now they are going to shrug their shoulders at a major iPhone problem? Wow. I am really glad I canceled my iPhone order and I am keeping my Evo. At least HTC is recognizing their issues and working to resolve them right now. Apple has really lost a step.
First Apple does nothing at all about our wifi problems with the iPad and now they are going to shrug their shoulders at a major iPhone problem? Wow. I am really glad I canceled my iPhone order and I am keeping my Evo. At least HTC is recognizing their issues and working to resolve them right now. Apple has really lost a step.