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Thats actually a good number, considering there are probably a million phones in the hands of the public by now.

That's nonsense, even in the US where deadbeats walking out on their mortgages are queueing up outside Apple stores on iPhone launch day. Wait until the weekend, when most gainfully employed people are not busy with work.
 
They once had a patent for a radio transparent hard ceramic phone back, I wonder what happened to that.

Wouldn't be surprised that the yield were too low and / or was too fragile in field use. One more patent just for company valuation.
 
Whoever started this BS rumor deserves an award from Google. Who ever thought that so much crap could be spread from one fandroid troll.

There is no issue here, absolutely none. Your "bars going down" when you hold the phone is in your head. I have been talking all day and browsing all day, no sign of any problems.

Guess what, signal strength tends to go up and down. I'm sure if you spend enough time playing around you can convince yourself that the signal strength is related to combing your hair or biting your nails. Doesn't make it a fact though.

My offer stands to trade my 3GS for any iPhone 4... no takers because 90% of the people reporting problems are trolls, and the other 10% are chasing windmills.

Do you seriously think just cause yours is problem free that there isn't a problem with everyone elses? Are you that delusional?
 
I saw mention of it on another forum by another poster that claimed they'd contacted Apple Support about it and the Apple Support rep admitted it - I can add no credence to that, I'm just offering what I read earlier that someone else posted (their experience).

If it's true, and there should be a coating, I can understand that to some degree but, as a licensed Ham operator for over 3 decades now, the entire concept of putting any antenna in range of actual skin contact (even in spite of said "coating") is just idiotic engineering, any way Apple or anyone else cares to try and slice it.

It just won't work, and I honestly can't believe that Apple went in this direction... I questioned this idea when the first prototype images were leaked out months ago and now I can see that my original line of thought - that they might use the band as some type of antenna or coupling - simply wasn't going to work. Now, months later, my hunch seems to have turned out to be true.

Again, they should have just put the antennas behind the glass backing... or even better would have been to embed it inside the glass, like the types of antennas that cars have for their FM radios, it's embedded as thin wires inside the actual glass itself. That would have been infinitely superior to what they've done, based on my knowledge of antennas and radio wave propagation.

Bleh... this will just get worse as time goes by.


Would be great if a human body acted like an "external" antenna improving reception when holding onto a cellular phone.

i.e. I own a vechicle with Remote Starter. To extend the transmitting range, I would place the remote control directly under my chin and start my vehicle from a much longer range than normal. Has anyone tried this? Why can't the concept be applied onto cellular phones as well?
 
I challenge ANYONE with this so-called problem to do the following test.

1. Keep your hands off your iPhone 4 for one minute and record the average signal strength.

2. Put your hands on your iPhone 4 (making sure it is in the exact same location, no movement) for one minute and record the average signal strength.

3. Repeat steps 1 + 2 for 30 times and average out the signal strengths.

You will see that touching your iPhone has NO EFFECT on the signal strength. NONE.

I don't doubt that there are bogus YouTube videos. Sell one million units on day one, then convince 100,000 windmill chasers that something is wrong, and they will find something wrong where no problem exists. Signal strength goes up and down naturally due to a number of factors. I can comb my hair and correlate it to signal strength if I try hard enough and enough people tell me it must be true.

There is absolutely NO problem here. Try it for yourself and you will see.
 
Whoever started this BS rumor deserves an award from Google. Who ever thought that so much crap could be spread from one fandroid troll.
Sure... it's just your run-of-the-mill FUD from some single troll, and as always, it's not gaining any traction whatsoever. Just some posts on an obscure forum.

CNN: With iPhone 4 excitement come complaints

NY Times: On New iPhone, a Mystery of Dropped Calls

BBC: Users report 'fault' on iPhone 4

MSNBC: iPhone 4 buyers report screen, antenna issues

WSJ: iPhone 4 Draws Brisk Sales, Antenna Gripes

CBS News: Reports of Tech Glitches in Apple iPhone 4

ABC News: iPhone 4 Owners Report Complaints - Holding New iPhone by Its Sides Decreases Reception Quality

Wired: iPhone 4 loses reception when antenna band is touched
 
Long time lurker first time posting.

I am left handed and have big hands and dropped two calls today. One of them was an important call when I looked at the screen I saw the "No Service" sign and saw the way my hand was holding the phone as described in these threads. When I released the phone from that position I immediately got my bars back.

I think Steve Jobs response to this is unacceptable and lacks any kind of empathy for his customers. Function must come first over design.


I can understand if my phone looses reception based on contact (it seems pretty standard in the technology) but loosing service is another thing.

I usually don't care about defective electronics, its seems like they all have their flaws. I am just shocked that the most anticipated phone has such an issue, and honestly it was supposed to be an improvement over the 3G, which I never have had the same problem.

I hope things work for us. It really is a bummer, it's an incredible phone otherwise.
 

You posted 10 articles that all say the same thing - "People claim that touching their iPhone 4 causes signal degradation". I don't need the Times or the Journal to tell me what I read on MacRumors over a day ago.

Why don't you take my challenge of a scientific test for signal strength? Or would you rather chase windmills all day?
 
You will see that touching your iPhone has NO EFFECT on the signal strength. NONE.

Lies, I can call anyone perfectly as long as I'm not touching that corner. Once I grip that corner, my calls don't go through at all. I dial, hit call and nothing. Screen shows number being dialed. I can keep it like that for as long as I want and the call won't go through. If I do let go of the corner though, the call magically goes through and my bars go back up.

So no, you're wrong. Nice try, secret Apple PR rep.
 
You posted 10 articles that all say the same thing - "People claim that touching their iPhone 4 causes signal degradation". I don't need the Times or the Journal to tell me what I read on MacRumors over a day ago.

Why don't you take my challenge of a scientific test for signal strength? Or would you rather chase windmills all day?

Juan, what water are you drinking?? Windmills? Really?
 
You posted 10 articles that all say the same thing - "People claim that touching their iPhone 4 causes signal degradation". I don't need the Times or the Journal to tell me what I read on MacRumors over a day ago.

Why don't you take my challenge of a scientific test for signal strength? Or would you rather chase windmills all day?

Do you honestly think all these people are faking? Yes. Engadget faked this just so they could get some hits.

And so did Apple, seeing as they've admitted there's a problem. :rolleyes:
 
Guys like this Juan are hopeless. He probably would pay for an Apple branded stone with an iStone logo 500 bucks as well. Pointless to argue with delusional people.
 
I believed 20 hours ago that apple had made the biggest mistake of they're existence. I have now handled the new iPhone (with a bumper, witch i would say is necessary, merly given the dainty glass design) and completely agree. It is a non issue. However, all iphone 4's should include one at no charge. Also I use a 3GS that at one time had a case on it, I removed it as I believed it really ruined the beautiful apple design. I am saying the new iPhone befits in all ways by having they're bumper attached and should never have been advertised it without one. Apple's mistake is in PR and marketing.
 
Whoever started this BS rumor deserves an award from Google. Who ever thought that so much crap could be spread from one fandroid troll.

Where do idiots like this come from?

Yes, this is all a conspiracy by Google to further their agenda with Android. :rolleyes:
 
I believed 20 hours ago that apple had made the biggest mistake of they're existence. I have now handled the new iPhone (with a bumper, witch i would say is nessiaary) and completely agree. It is a non issue. However, all iphone 4's should include one at no charge. I am done with this thred.

But how about the people who do NOT want the "bumper" or any other "case"...

If "bumper" is solution to the problem then it shouldn't have been accessory but part of the phone design :)
 
Just read some more articles about this topic and comments. Lol the best thing are all those people now who argue that a phone belongs in a case. Oh really? So all the shiny metal sexyness is hidden? Isn't that how the phone was designed in the first place or did Apple show the iPhone off with bumpers?
 
Can someone in Germany, Japan or the UK who has the iPhone 4 if they have the issue?

It will quickly rule out if it's an AT&T issue or not
 
Function must come first over design.

Yeah, but for Apple the Design seems to be more important…
Or why you can't swap the HDD in the iMac (easily)?
Why do we have to use Glossy-Screens?
Why is the Macbook Air (1st generation) overheating (or has just one USB and no LAN)?
...
...
and so on.
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Can someone in Germany, Japan or the UK who has the iPhone 4 if they have the issue?

It will quickly rule out if it's an AT&T issue or not

It has the same issue.

This guy did a prediction and he was right: http://www.heise.de/mobil/newsticke...r-zu-Antennen/forum-180571/msg-18661466/read/

He said that it is absolutely clear for someone with HF-knowledge, that there will be problems: http://www.heise.de/mobil/newsticke...r-zu-Antennen/forum-180571/msg-18661466/read/
 
Can someone in Germany, Japan or the UK who has the iPhone 4 if they have the issue?

It will quickly rule out if it's an AT&T issue or not

This has already been done several times in this thread. Please read the thread before posting.
 
He's right. Just don't hold the phone retardedly like in the video. You have fingertips, use them. Hell, i'm a righty, but last night I made a call holding with my left - it felt perfectly natural holding it with my fingertips, not burying it in my hand.
 
EVERYONE with this issue should call Apple support and report and open a case. It is BS that they have released a phone with this issue. I have 4 to 5 bars of 3G signal from ATT and I completely drop connection when I hold the phone naturally in my left hand.


That is an issue with your phone so you should take it in and get it replaced, can we see a video of it dropping calls when holding in left hand? Everything (my 2 iPhones included) only shows the signal going down in the software - I think it's being a bit blown out of preportion....
 
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