What??? Which hand do you hold your phone in when surfing etc? This is just as big a problem for right handed people.
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Jobs says Signal Strength a "non issue"
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What??? Which hand do you hold your phone in when surfing etc? This is just as big a problem for right handed people.
The proper way to hold the iPhone 4.
That is ridiculous.
Who was this smart person anyway who thought of putting the antennas outside and in the bottom where everyone is holding their phone?
What was so wrong with inside and up?
Exactly... It actually is amazing how many people are getting this issue wrong way around!
I am right handed person and this practically means the following:
1. I hold a mobile device in MY LEFT hand
2. I use my RIGHT hand to dial the number / navigate the interface / browse the net / etc...
lol
Steve does hold it up right
Wasnt the meeting between SJ and th Russian Preaident after he sent out that message? if so, he was aware there were cameras and therefore held it right.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/102360007/AFP
Wasnt the meeting between SJ and th Russian Preaident after he sent out that message? if so, he was aware there were cameras and therefore held it right.
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/102360007/AFP
Because copy/paste didn't work on his computer? He couldn't post the same "nice" reply to everyone instead of writing something unique. Ummm ok.
What about the right handers that hold the phone in their left hand whilst zooming/pinching etc with their right hand!
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Great letter. However - from what I understand and have read online - the people who typically get responses write something catchy in the subject line and then a VERY short email. Perhaps it's because they skim emails or only read a sentence or two. I have no idea. That's why when I wrote, I just cut out everything extraneous I wanted to say and just asked the question.
I do hope your FULL email gets read and responded to!
Are there really that many people who are a) left handed and b) hold the phone in such a way that the antennae gap need be bridged? I can't help thinking *most* of the complaints here are coming from right handers who on being instructed to perform this rather specific test notice that their signal diminishes and simply want to bitch about something that will never affect them in normal use.
In addition if you've ever bothered to look at the signal strength in the past you might have noticed noticed it goes up and down all the time. I can rotate my iPhone 3g 90 degrees on a table top and without touching it even, the signal can drop from max to min, is this a design flaw? no it is in fact normal, cell phone reception is a sensitive beast and there isn't much you can do that won't affect it more or less dramatically. It would not be unreasonable to suggest I stand orientated in such a way I get a good signal, in much the same way it is not unreasonable to suggest you hold the thing in such a way as to get a good signal.
I do believe a firmware update might greatly reduce the effect that a few users are legitimately experiencing so howabout giving this thing a chance at least before throwing these pre-teen tantrums in public?
In addition if you've ever bothered to look at the signal strength in the past you might have noticed noticed it goes up and down all the time. I can rotate my iPhone 3g 90 degrees on a table top and without touching it even, the signal can drop from max to min, is this a design flaw? no it is in fact normal, cell phone reception is a sensitive beast and there isn't much you can do that won't affect it more or less dramatically. It would not be unreasonable to suggest I stand orientated in such a way I get a good signal, in much the same way it is not unreasonable to suggest you hold the thing in such a way as to get a good signal.
I do believe a firmware update might greatly reduce the effect that a few users are legitimately experiencing so howabout giving this thing a chance at least before throwing these pre-teen tantrums in public?
Exactly... It actually is amazing how many people are getting this issue wrong way around!
I am right handed person and this practically means the following:
1. I hold a mobile device in MY LEFT hand
2. I use my RIGHT hand to dial the number / navigate the interface / browse the net / etc...
lol
Ditto. Check in the keynote, he does it this way too. Is it safe to assume he's right handed as well?
I'm in the same boat. I'm also a left-hander and would find it quite difficult to start using the right hand to hold the phone or refrain from cupping it with my left like I normally do. BTW, the Zagg shield isn't enough. I had the Invisible Shield put on the phone day 1 at a local mall kiosk. It didn't prevent reception loss one bit.
I certainly am - it seems to drop significantly when I hold the bottom left and a little bit elsewhere.
I'm right handed and holding it for calls makes my little finger touch at the wrong place, and cupping it for reading the screen makes two of my fingers touch the corner.
It's just so poorly ergonimically designed.
what methods are people adopting to stop it happening without buying a bumper?
Let me guess. You tested all three phones in the same location? What does that tell you?
Whilst at work I can't replicate the problem. At home I lose all signal and can't make any calls.
Obviously. I've only been on this thread most of the night!
Then don't make statements that aren't true, if you obviously understand the issue. The issue is from holding the phone in a specific place, not simply holding the phone, as you put in your snarky response. It's an issue and we all know it. You don't need to make it more of an issue by exaggeration.
You also don't need to post like this is a chat room, but that's another issue altogether.
Hmm - that would be a rather different group of engineers would it not (unless we're back to "it's software" which I find hard to believe), the guys fixing iOS4 are coders, the guys fixing antenna interference would be hardware guys.
I suspect the message coming from Apple support is about 1/4 truth and 3/4 getting made up as they go along, but as time goes by, it'll get closer to the truth.
I couldn't get mine to do it at home this morning. But at work it does it just by holding the phone normally
.Also, having WiFi on makes it a lot worse...
he must be kidding
Why should i get a case for the phone??? and why should a learn how to grab it in the "apple's way". It is totally ********. They should have been aware of having your hand as a conductive. They will have to perform something to avoid this from happening. Therefor i am not going to get an iphone 4 until they review it quite well.
Why should i get a case for the phone??? and why should a learn how to grab it in the "apple's way". It is totally ********. They should have been aware of having your hand as a conductive. They will have to perform something to avoid this from happening. Therefor i am not going to get an iphone 4 until they review it quite well.
He doesn't even HAVE an iPhone 4. He's looking to trade his 3GS for one. So how he can KNOW that this is not a problem is laughable.
Just emailed Steve-o...hopefully I get one of those rare responses. I just suggested that he offer Bumpers to those affected. Seems idiotic to argue the problem now that all these phones are shipped, but if the Bumper fixes the issues, then they should really fix their mistake instead of making us pay to fix it.
Unfortunately, I am going to agree with Jobs. With my iPhone 4 I really had to hold the iPhone 4 tightly to make the signal go down while holding it like people have reported. So, if you just hold the iPhone just right then you wouldn't have theses issues. It is an easy fix. Also new video showing it on a Nokia same problems. Seems like all phones have an issue if you block the reception. So stop whining you have an iPhone 4 be happy that you have one. Some are dieing to have one.
I couldn't get mine to do it at home this morning. But at work it does it just by holding the phone normally
Also, having WiFi on makes it a lot worse...
WiFi makes it worse? That would make sense I guess as the two antennas are being bridged. I'm in the opposite situation where I can't get the problem to occour at work so I will test this at home tonight.