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I believe it IS at the lower left corner. The best placement for the gap I think would be at the TOP. Just turn the antenna around and flip it. Problem solved (for new phones anyway)

FCC regulations say that antenna should be the furthest away form the user's head as possible. So it kinda has to be on the bottom.
 
Honestly just holding my phone as I always do (as a left handed person) causes my signal to cut out. I don't think I could exaggerate it any more because it is already as bad as it could possibly be.

I'm right handed but when web browsing I always hold my ipod cradled in my left palm. I also usually take off the case because it I always feel the case gets in the way of my fingers :eek:.

Guess I'll be avoiding the 4g for now.
 
So if I decide that I want to return the phone, I shouldn't be subject to any fee's since it's an issue on their part. Correct?
 
You know what I mean. Posting to have a discussion about the differences/advantages is one thing; posting to just laugh at the iPhone is another.

AGREED! That's when it gets annoying... I don't go posting on Droid forums about how crappy Android is.
 
Well said. I've been called both a troll AND a fanboy. I'm neither. I'm just a consumer who weighs his options and buys what is best for my particular needs/wants.

You can like Apple products and not be a fanboy. And you can acknowledge issues without being a troll.

Ha. Funny how depending on the conversation and your stance on any given issue you could be either. People just need to relax, not be so accusatory and realize that nobody is two dimensional, or one dimensional, as the case may be.
 
I believe it IS at the lower left corner. The best placement for the gap I think would be at the TOP. Just turn the antenna around and flip it. Problem solved (for new phones anyway)

thats what i was thinking as well, but there was a link to something that stated that the fcc requirees the antenna be away from the customers head.. it was something i glanced over, so i am not to sure if that is exactly what it stated
 
All these rediculous replies are perfect examples of the dumbing down of America. It's amazing how many people don't have a clue about how radios or antenas work.

Steve is absolutly right. Your presence near any antena, be it transmitting or receiving, impacts how well it operates. It's amazing that cell phones work at all since your body blocks a significant percentage of any transmitted or received signal.

Then on top of signal blockage, placing your fingers across the antenna ends creats a short circuit. That's like sticking two prongs of a fork into the slots of an electrical outlet. If you dont like to see your electrical outlet short out, spark, and blow fuses, stop sticking forks in it. Like duh!

If he knew that then why did he put the two antennas side by side where people put their fingers? Like duh!
 
Just return the phone. Apple isn't forcing you to keep it.

You must have missed my earlier post. I can understand since this "non-issue" has well over 700 replies.

I never said this was a deal breaker. I never said that I dropped calls. I simply pointed out I have the known issue. And I shared my correspondence with Steve's email for others to read.

I plan on using a case like I have with other iPhones. So in essence - the problem, WILL STILL EXIST - will be hidden from my daily use.

Steve's (whoever) email responses however, to me, are not acceptable.

Nothing else on the phone, to/for me, is an issue. So I've weighed my options and concerns and have decided to keep the phone. That doesn't mean the phone has shortcomings. And I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Perhaps a bad analogy. But If I am in severe pain because of strained muscles and I take pain medication. That doesn't solve the strained muscles. It only solves the pain. Putting a bumper on the phone doesn't solve the issue - it masks it. The phone still has signal issues.
 
I believe it IS at the lower left corner. The best placement for the gap I think would be at the TOP. Just turn the antenna around and flip it. Problem solved (for new phones anyway)

its not just there some people are getting it just from the lower bottom corner and some are getting it by holding the top left corner aswell as the bottom left corner at same time

Top left = Bluetooth

lower left = Signal antenna

my video shows a complete drop when holding both together which is bridging the signal out altogether

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ3MxQfgfOE
 
NONE of us have any evidence whatsoever that the email really came from Steve. Personally I find it unlikely, but I have no evidence either way, so loudly denigrating his character in public on the basis of its contents isn't a clever thing to do and I would wait for a formal announcement published by Apple before leaping to any conclusions as to their position, proposed remedy or otherwise.

There may be a legitimate, widespread issue with the phone, what's sickening at this point is not the issue itself, but the absurd over reactions, ignorance, conspiracy theories and jumping to conclusions that have gone on over the last 24 hours. It's just a phone. You are protected by consumer laws, you will end up with a working phone or a refund if your issues persists and cause you problems in normal usage. Sheeeesh.

MacRumors did log into that guys gmail account to verify the authenticity of the email. Maybe it's a fake email, I don't know but I'm more inclined to believe the email was real seeing how a fairly reputable website verified it.

Are you really surprised people are worked up over the issue? With the amount of hype this product generated post-release and finally it's released but fails to perform its most basic function, you bet people are going to be worked up about it. Imagine if you bought a car and it has all kinds of great features yet the engine won't start because you're sitting in the seat wrong? Or better yet, you're driving down the road and sit the wrong way and the car shuts off. It's pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

I've never had any issues with my previous iPhones and AT&T. In fact, I've rarely had dropped calls and my coverage has been excellent. This is the first time I've really had any issues and sadly it's not AT&T's fault, it's Apple's.
 
All these rediculous replies are perfect examples of the dumbing down of America. It's amazing how many people don't have a clue about how radios or antenas work.

Steve is absolutly right. Your presence near any antena, be it transmitting or receiving, impacts how well it operates. It's amazing that cell phones work at all since your body blocks a significant percentage of any transmitted or received signal.

Then on top of signal blockage, placing your fingers across the antenna ends creats a short circuit. That's like sticking two prongs of a fork into the slots of an electrical outlet. If you dont like to see your electrical outlet short out, spark, and blow fuses, stop sticking forks in it. Like duh!

Hurr, durr.

This so-called 'dumbing down of America' (can't comment, as an evil commie Euro-type) has clearly made you miss the point which people are making. Nobody's disputing that flesh affects the operation of an an antenna, what they're saying is that putting said antenna where your hand is almost guaranteed to be is monumentally stupid.

Oh, and it's 'ridiculous', by the way :rolleyes:
 
I called Apple support and they asked if I was right or left handed. I told the service guy I hold the phone with my left hand and he said this is probably the issue. He explained to me that I need to hold the phone differently.

What a joke :) but the guy was really nice and said that he has heard a lot of complaints about this and that it sounds like it could be something more. Of course this was just his opinion.
 
Of course it's a non issue, his company is going to make millions if not billions in revenue from the product anyway. Mission accomplished.
 
All these rediculous replies are perfect examples of the dumbing down of America. It's amazing how many people don't have a clue about how radios or antenas work.

Steve is absolutly right. Your presence near any antena, be it transmitting or receiving, impacts how well it operates. It's amazing that cell phones work at all since your body blocks a significant percentage of any transmitted or received signal.

Then on top of signal blockage, placing your fingers across the antenna ends creats a short circuit. That's like sticking two prongs of a fork into the slots of an electrical outlet. If you dont like to see your electrical outlet short out, spark, and blow fuses, stop sticking forks in it. Like duh!

I know how radios work. I didn't design the iPhone 4. Seems to me the onus should be on the manufacturer and design team to worry about what works and what doesn't technologically - not the consumer.

No one is is "abusing" the usage of the device. No one here is saying something like "When I hold my phone near my microwave while plugging in my toaster and have my feet in a pedi-spa - I lose connection.

If I hold the phone normally - like I have ANY other cell phone - I lose bars.

Oh - and it is related to geography too. Here at work I only lose 1 bar. At home it goes down to zero.
 
All these rediculous replies are perfect examples of the dumbing down of America. It's amazing how many people don't have a clue about how radios or antenas work.

Steve is absolutly right. Your presence near any antena, be it transmitting or receiving, impacts how well it operates. It's amazing that cell phones work at all since your body blocks a significant percentage of any transmitted or received signal.

Then on top of signal blockage, placing your fingers across the antenna ends creats a short circuit. That's like sticking two prongs of a fork into the slots of an electrical outlet. If you dont like to see your electrical outlet short out, spark, and blow fuses, stop sticking forks in it. Like duh!

wow..where to begin....suffice to say before you speak of "dumbing" down.....maybe at least use a spell checker...otherwise it's(ridiculous) to call out others.
 
Hurr, durr.

This so-called 'dumbing down of America' (can't comment, as an evil commie Euro-type) has clearly made you miss the point which people are making. Nobody's disputing that flesh affects the operation of an an antenna, what they're saying is that putting said antenna where your hand is almost guaranteed to be is monumentally stupid.

Oh, and it's 'ridiculous', by the way :rolleyes:

Given the huge number of experts we seem to have here now, wouldn't it also be monumentally stupid for you all to have gone out and bought the thing if it's that obvious? Just saying, this issue is not as obvious and straightforward as people are making out so the knee jerk reactions about poor design may also be proved to be monumentally stupid when we know more about the issue and its possible remedy.
 
MacRumors did log into that guys gmail account to verify the authenticity of the email. Maybe it's a fake email, I don't know but I'm more inclined to believe the email was real seeing how a fairly reputable website verified it.

Are you really surprised people are worked up over the issue? With the amount of hype this product generated post-release and finally it's released but fails to perform its most basic function, you bet people are going to be worked up about it. Imagine if you bought a car and it has all kinds of great features yet the engine won't start because you're sitting in the seat wrong? Or better yet, you're driving down the road and sit the wrong way and the car shuts off. It's pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

I've never had any issues with my previous iPhones and AT&T. In fact, I've rarely had dropped calls and my coverage has been excellent. This is the first time I've really had any issues and sadly it's not AT&T's fault, it's Apple's.

It was my email. And even if the person your responded wanted to refute the veracity, Apple, on other websites has given similar/same responses OFFICIALLY.

So to "argue" the content of the email at this point is ridiculous.
 
If he knew that then why did he put the two antennas side by side where people put their fingers? Like duh!

So that when people use it, on-lookers or people who envy the new iPhone won't see the seams :eek:. They could have put them near the top though to minimise the chance of fingers interfering with the antenna.

Oh well, I'm just happy the Apple replaced my 11 months old 3GS because the vibrate didn't work :D
 
I think Apple knew about this issue. Why else would they design a case that only protects the antenna structure, especially when they've never produced an iPhone case before?

I'm anxious to see how this plays out. I was planning on dumping my N1 and jumping back on the iPhone bandwagon, but I think I'll take a wait and see approach for the time being.
 
AGREED! That's when it gets annoying... I don't go posting on Droid forums about how crappy Android is.

Trolls are indeed annoying but to be fair they have a fair amount of ammunition on this one! It's not like there's a tiny software glitch that runs the battery down 0.5% more quickly. The iPhone 4 is essentially an iPod Touch if not held the right way. Or put it another way, a small iPad without 3g or WiFi.
 
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