Jesus, you sound like someone who should refocus and keep "us users" safe from further beta software. I would expect a multi-billion company like Apple to a) test an iPhone outside that silly room with the egg boxes and b) install iOS 4 on a iPhone 3G. Man they only have ever released 4 different iPhone models, is it so difficult to test that stupid software on *each* of the amazing four iPhones? Is that asking for too much?
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Jobs: Software Update to Address iOS 4 Performance Issues on iPhone 3G 'Coming Soon'
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Jesus, you sound like someone who should refocus and keep "us users" safe from further beta software. I would expect a multi-billion company like Apple to a) test an iPhone outside that silly room with the egg boxes and b) install iOS 4 on a iPhone 3G. Man they only have ever released 4 different iPhone models, is it so difficult to test that stupid software on *each* of the amazing four iPhones? Is that asking for too much?
Still Beats A Blackberry!
Even on the worst day it beats a Blackberry! Apple is a great company and if they have a design issue they will get it corrected . . . unlike another software company that downloads patch, after patch, after patch, after patch . . . .
Even on the worst day it beats a Blackberry! Apple is a great company and if they have a design issue they will get it corrected . . . unlike another software company that downloads patch, after patch, after patch, after patch . . . .
Before iOS 4.0, I used to think that my family members who had the iPhone 3G running iOS 3.1.3 had funny little lags here and there. For example, a hiccup-pause during the animation of the home screen zooming back into view, or a lag in scrolling something. Oddly, my in-laws and my brother (who had the iPhone 3G) did not notice the same things I did because they were accustomed to it.
My 3GS is not nearly as bad as that video, but with iOS 4.0.2 it now behaves like the 3G did under iPhone OS 3.1.3. That is to say, I now have noticeable pauses here and there. Sometimes ending a phone call leaves the phone call screen up for a second or two longer before clearing it. I also see an animation pause mid-stream for just a split second sometimes.
When these things occur, I find myself quitting the background apps just in case they are taking memory.
These slow-downs are not always there -- they come and go. The phone is still way faster than my old Palm Treo 680 ever was (which lagged on every task and I just accepted that as normal), but I realize that once you become accustomed to something really speedy, that you notice when it gets slower.
So I am looking forward to any software update that addresses this. While I would love to own an iPhone-4, but I currently intend to make due with my 3Gs until next June simply because I'd like my phone to last 2 years so I can purchase some other Apple toys. So anything to return it to its old speedy self is welcome.
My 3GS is not nearly as bad as that video, but with iOS 4.0.2 it now behaves like the 3G did under iPhone OS 3.1.3. That is to say, I now have noticeable pauses here and there. Sometimes ending a phone call leaves the phone call screen up for a second or two longer before clearing it. I also see an animation pause mid-stream for just a split second sometimes.
When these things occur, I find myself quitting the background apps just in case they are taking memory.
These slow-downs are not always there -- they come and go. The phone is still way faster than my old Palm Treo 680 ever was (which lagged on every task and I just accepted that as normal), but I realize that once you become accustomed to something really speedy, that you notice when it gets slower.
So I am looking forward to any software update that addresses this. While I would love to own an iPhone-4, but I currently intend to make due with my 3Gs until next June simply because I'd like my phone to last 2 years so I can purchase some other Apple toys. So anything to return it to its old speedy self is welcome.
Surely it's a bit pathetic that the CEO of one of the largest tech companies in the world has to send an email to inform the countless millions of 3G/iSO 4 users that an upgrade is on the way. Apple really stink at customer service, yet no doubt the Jobsian cult followers will say how great it is that the CEO has spoken from on high. Any other company that was run this way would be slaughtered. Apple seem to have a pass to piss on people and then tell them that the sun is shining. What an amazing company 
.
disclaimer: I've a few Apple Mac's, an iPad, sold the iPhone, and want the company that I do respect in many ways to get back to making "magical" Macs, but I think that train has long gone...
.disclaimer: I've a few Apple Mac's, an iPad, sold the iPhone, and want the company that I do respect in many ways to get back to making "magical" Macs, but I think that train has long gone...
Yep... it's a deal killer for my 3G
I'm hoping against hope that the iOS 4.1 update will FIX this issue!
Mine is nearly unusable and getting App updates is a joke! Took me nearly 2.5 hours to get 12 updates installed and running and THAT's after going through the revised Terms of Service junk at least 4 times... not good!
I'm hoping against hope that the iOS 4.1 update will FIX this issue!
Mine is nearly unusable and getting App updates is a joke! Took me nearly 2.5 hours to get 12 updates installed and running and THAT's after going through the revised Terms of Service junk at least 4 times... not good!
3g Issues
I was intending to get an iphone4 on release. I had the 3g a couple of months after it was first released. In March this year I changed my contract to what I though was a 30 day notice contract, but somehow I came away with a 12 plan (o2 simplicity). I only realised when I went into the phone shop to upgrade. I was annoyed, complained to O2 and they said you have to go the the store. The chap who sold me the contract just said its your fault. I did meant to then write to O2 but got busy like you do and in the end just though well the 3g works stay with that and wait.
Now I work in IT and I upgraded but now I think its pointless as for me it didn't give me any more features anyway. Apple shouldn't have given an upgrade path. But they did and for me my phone became slow, and locking for long periods of time which meant I missed calls. I phone apple and they said turn it on and off three times! Next I went to the Apple store in Regent street London and they gave me a new 3g phone say it was hardware! Without any data on it it was zippy and useable. Stupidly because I wanted to get my backup data back I ended putting OS4 back on. Guess what same issue. Spoke to Apple and they then came up with a list of things to do. I have an old motorola imac so doing anything is slow and I don't believe them anyway.
To summarize OS4 on the 3G is pointless, Apple should allow the option to downgrade which they don't.
People like me who have a 12 month O2 contract end up with a device that is now unfit for purpose.
Apple has made some of the best hardware/software kit ever made and this is poor form.
There needs to be a fix and a fix soon.
I was intending to get an iphone4 on release. I had the 3g a couple of months after it was first released. In March this year I changed my contract to what I though was a 30 day notice contract, but somehow I came away with a 12 plan (o2 simplicity). I only realised when I went into the phone shop to upgrade. I was annoyed, complained to O2 and they said you have to go the the store. The chap who sold me the contract just said its your fault. I did meant to then write to O2 but got busy like you do and in the end just though well the 3g works stay with that and wait.
Now I work in IT and I upgraded but now I think its pointless as for me it didn't give me any more features anyway. Apple shouldn't have given an upgrade path. But they did and for me my phone became slow, and locking for long periods of time which meant I missed calls. I phone apple and they said turn it on and off three times! Next I went to the Apple store in Regent street London and they gave me a new 3g phone say it was hardware! Without any data on it it was zippy and useable. Stupidly because I wanted to get my backup data back I ended putting OS4 back on. Guess what same issue. Spoke to Apple and they then came up with a list of things to do. I have an old motorola imac so doing anything is slow and I don't believe them anyway.
To summarize OS4 on the 3G is pointless, Apple should allow the option to downgrade which they don't.
People like me who have a 12 month O2 contract end up with a device that is now unfit for purpose.
Apple has made some of the best hardware/software kit ever made and this is poor form.
There needs to be a fix and a fix soon.
I had problems the first few days after installing iOS4 on my 16GB iPhone 3G. I restored (even from a backup, mind you), did a hard reset, and disabled most of spotlight, and my iPhone runs fine. I don't even notice a speed difference since whatever the last 3.x release was.
No, you'll just look like a fool for saying this. Have you stepped outside into the economy yet? You really do need to get out more. Not everyone can afford to do this, and not everyone wants to buy a new phone every year. I got my 3G in April of 2009. I can't afford to go out and spend $200, unless I forgo eating. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Bit of both. I'm not blaming apple per se. I'm happy with my new phone. If it was very simple to downgrade the os I would have done it. I will do it if the update don't improve it. Then pass it on to my wife
But I think they never should have let the 3G run ios 4 IMHO.
No way Apple will make the iOS4 work on the 3G. I downgraded mine after upgrading the first day. It was unusable.
Anyway, between one lag and another, I've not actually seen an important advantage of iOS4 over 3.1 I've installed.
Probably iPhone 4 is a valuable upgrade, but mainly for the hardware improvements (better camera and video, front camera, etc.). But iOS4 doesn't seem to me such a breakthrough...
Anyway, between one lag and another, I've not actually seen an important advantage of iOS4 over 3.1 I've installed.
Probably iPhone 4 is a valuable upgrade, but mainly for the hardware improvements (better camera and video, front camera, etc.). But iOS4 doesn't seem to me such a breakthrough...
The delay in addressing this is just taking the piss.
Oh, and is iO4 out for iPad, or proximity sensors on iP4 fixed.
Don't be silly, Old Scrooge Jobs is too busy collecting his billions and, the're just shooting the pretty ads for the new iPods.
Oh, and is iO4 out for iPad, or proximity sensors on iP4 fixed.
Don't be silly, Old Scrooge Jobs is too busy collecting his billions and, the're just shooting the pretty ads for the new iPods.
But will it stop frying my face during a phone call?
My iPhone 3G on a phone call actually burned my cheek, jaw and thumb during a 20min phone call on iOS 4. Not a problem with the hardware, because when I rolled back the iOS to 3.1.3, the phone stopped heating up so much, the battery worked a lot longer. I wish I could say the rollback fixed everything. It didn't. but it's still way better. Love the video!!
My iPhone 3G on a phone call actually burned my cheek, jaw and thumb during a 20min phone call on iOS 4. Not a problem with the hardware, because when I rolled back the iOS to 3.1.3, the phone stopped heating up so much, the battery worked a lot longer. I wish I could say the rollback fixed everything. It didn't. but it's still way better. Love the video!!
Been an Apple customer since 1983. Own all kinds of Apple hardware, including a Mac Pro. Don't know if you're being sarcastic, so I'll just assume you aren't.
Anyone else think it's kind of crap that Apple says jailbreaking could degrade the user experience, yet when they come out with this, you have to jailbreak to downgrade?
BTW this proximity sensor is annoying
BTW this proximity sensor is annoying
My geek reference was regarding the post I replied to
I am not saying anything good or bad about being a geek. My geek reference was regarding the post I replied to. All I am saying is that a regular user plugs the iphone, iTunes updates it, and the user just drags apps on top of each other and you got folders. They don't need to be thinking "wait, this is a .0 upgrade, better pass on it" as the person I responded to suggested before going on an ranting on some weird supposedly collective way of people thinking.
BTW, people talking about "what other company.." or "name one piece of software that..." stop being apologetic for Apple. They screwed up and this mess is not people complaining about a simple bug. This is about a phone become unusable.
I am not saying anything good or bad about being a geek. My geek reference was regarding the post I replied to. All I am saying is that a regular user plugs the iphone, iTunes updates it, and the user just drags apps on top of each other and you got folders. They don't need to be thinking "wait, this is a .0 upgrade, better pass on it" as the person I responded to suggested before going on an ranting on some weird supposedly collective way of people thinking.
BTW, people talking about "what other company.." or "name one piece of software that..." stop being apologetic for Apple. They screwed up and this mess is not people complaining about a simple bug. This is about a phone become unusable.
Must be something wrong with your phone. I have two 3GS, one 8GB and one 32Gb and both are just as fast as my iPhone 4.
these issues sound horrible for those that experience them. People expect their devices to just 'work'. The old joke about PCs was MS somehow managed to convince people their computers should freeze, crash, etc as a part of operations. THinking of MS, I recall the effects of taking a working PC and installing the latest and greatest Windows - new OS, new resource requirements - and sometimes doing ok, sometimes regretting it. Due to the headache that 'upgrading' an i-device is, once I got to iPhone OS 3.0 on my 3G and noticed some slowdown, I have stayed put. It works as advertised and I see no reason to put old hardware with new software. (all the features of iOS 4 I would want I have thanks to jailbreaking - independent developers make the world a better place)