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John Gruber: Apple Invented USB Type C
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$80 is more than what I spent on the MacBook I used through high school
Seriously, that dongle ought to be included.
Thunderbolt may go the way of firewire now that we have USB3-C. Thunderbolt 3 is going to be 4x faster than USB3-C and can also provide 100w of power. USB3-C will still be smaller and cheaper though.
Yeah, I checked and MagSafe is gone forever it appears... I guess I'm keeping my mid 2012 15" rMBP, even if newer ones come out, as I love my MagSafe and the option of having HDMI/SD/etc. ports.
$80 is more than what I spent on the MacBook I used through high school
Seriously, that dongle ought to be included.
Just think of it as $1379, with the dongle included.
Err, didn't you just answer your own question?
I would argue that the two most common things to do with thunderbolt of Apple laptops is to plug in a 1GBe NIC and connect to a display.
The batteries last on average 1,000 _complete_ discharge/recharge cycles. Emptying the battery to 50% and recharging to 100% only counts as 1/2 cycle. The reason why I think it is 1,000 is because that's what Apple says.
I think the idea is that people will store and share everything through iCloud and other online services like DropBox. Doing that means you don't need adapters for external drives and such. This is basically a netbook in my opinion and not meant to be a workhorse. A computer for people who could get by on an iPad but want to the feel of a normal laptop (Keyboard, etc).
Had no time to go thru all the 22 pages, regretfully!...
In 2016 I'm expecting the current MBA footprint totally gone (in fact, my gut feel tells me that the Air line will totally be ditched...). The 12" rMB will be joined by a bigger brother in 13" or 14", using Skylake. And the rMBP line will also be re-designed having 13", 15" and possibly/hopefully a 17" model; again all based on Skylake architecture. Now, as my assumption includes a totally new casing for the 2016 rMBP line (which may also feature wireless charging), should we expect (and fear) that the MagSafe power socket will be eliminated here, and there will be maybe only 2 or at the best, 3 USB-C ports plus the headphone output?
In 2016 I'm expecting the current MBA footprint totally gone (in fact, my gut feel tells me that the Air line will totally be ditched...). The 12" rMB will be joined by a bigger brother in 13" or 14", using Skylake. And the rMBP line will also be re-designed having 13", 15" and possibly/hopefully a 17" model; again all based on Skylake architecture. Now, as my assumption includes a totally new casing for the 2016 rMBP line (which may also feature wireless charging), should we expect (and fear) that the MagSafe power socket will be eliminated here, and there will be maybe only 2 or at the best, 3 USB-C ports plus the headphone output?
Had no time to go thru all the 22 pages, regretfully!...
In 2016 I'm expecting the current MBA footprint totally gone (in fact, my gut feel tells me that the Air line will totally be ditched...). The 12" rMB will be joined by a bigger brother (but naturally in a similar styled thin and light casing) in 13" or 14" retina, using Skylake architecture. And the current 13"/15" rMBP line will also be re-designed having 13", 15" and possibly/hopefully a 17" model; again all based on Skylake architecture. Now, as my assumption includes a totally new casing for the 2016 rMBP line (which may also feature wireless charging), should we expect (and fear!!!) that the MagSafe power socket will be eliminated here, and there will be maybe only 2 or at the best, 3 USB-C ports plus the headphone output?
In 2016 I'm expecting the current MBA footprint totally gone (in fact, my gut feel tells me that the Air line will totally be ditched...). The 12" rMB will be joined by a bigger brother (but naturally in a similar styled thin and light casing) in 13" or 14" retina, using Skylake architecture. And the current 13"/15" rMBP line will also be re-designed having 13", 15" and possibly/hopefully a 17" model; again all based on Skylake architecture. Now, as my assumption includes a totally new casing for the 2016 rMBP line (which may also feature wireless charging), should we expect (and fear!!!) that the MagSafe power socket will be eliminated here, and there will be maybe only 2 or at the best, 3 USB-C ports plus the headphone output?
You're wrong. The only adapter is the USB-C to USB-A one. The ethernet and display stuff falls under YOUR definition of a dongle because they enable extra features only available when the dongle is attached.
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There is an earphone jack. Get these facts right and you will at least look like you know what you're talking about
In fairness, they didn't make a point of the headphone jack in the Keynote. I only spotted it after the second time watching the introductory video.
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Agree that MBA is probably on the chopping block. Fate will probably be decided based on sales for the new MBr. 12". Personally, I will never willingly buy a non-retina device ever again and MBA is still lower resolution.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Check back in a few years.
Hint: In "First Contact", rather than let the brand new Enterprise E be taken over by Borg, what did Capt. Picard say when a fellow crewman basically said "we barely knew her"?
the line must be drawn heah!
Damn Macrumors anticap measures all ruining my drama up ins.
I love this. Because Thunderbolt failed to reach the mainstream acceptance that Apple wanted and only expensive prosumer devices which absolutely need the bandwidth got made, you are trying to rewrite history.
Check the videos Apple has put out which introduce thunderbolt or devices which include thunderbolt and it becomes clear that their hope for the port was to be "the only port you'll ever need". It's clear that they envisaged its use to be from stuff such as consumer gadgets to high-end storage arrays.
This is heavily supported by the fact that they included these ports on their low-end computers like the Air and the Mini. They led the way in making useful and cheap dongles such as display and networking.
Due to restrictive licensing by Intel, ridiculous royalties and various market forces, the only way device makers could make money from Thunderbolt was by making devices which absolutely had to use all of the bandwidth offered by PCI-E to make it worth their while and targeting the high-end market because they will pay double or triple the cost for that extra 10% performance.
Thunderbolt may have ended up being primarily prosumer and above, but this niche was targeted by the device makers after mainstream adoption failed. Apple's deployment of Thunderbolt, the devices they have made and their own words during product intros make it clear that this way not what they wanted Thunderbolt to be.
Adapting the signal to Ethernet and Display methods is changing a hardware function, not unlocking additional software features. Display features are NOT locked. Is there software installed on a mini-display port to VGA adaptor? No. True dongles unlock SOFTWARE features, like license protection does. Physical dongles let people use highly regulated software without having to get use authorization over the internet. But I erased what I said before because there is too much confusion about things. It WOULD be nice if people distinguished between the two so other people knew what they were talking about.
Dongles also almost always just plug into the computer and they don't pass a signal through or have a second thing physically attached to them. But it's confusing because bluetooth adapters are usually called "dongles" because they just plug in and nothing physically attaches to them to transfer a signal but they ARE transferring a signal wirelessly. They aren't unlocking a service because the bluetooth services isn't locked to begin with. So, really, it's a bluetooth adapter, not dongle.
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HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
That's a good one but the one I was after was "There's plenty of letters in the alphabet."
Can anyone foresee USB-D arriving just about the time we all have duplicated all of our cables, dongles and adapters for "C"?
You know we can count on it.
