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What's with all these articles lately and their desperate attempt to make Steve Jobs look like a good guy?
Two words. Michael Fassbender. There's oscar buzz surrounding him in this role. A role that doesn't portray Jobs as some innocent angel. If the oscar buzz is true, the media will ask Fassbender about his role as well as this movie over and over again until the oscars next year.

You're already aware of the importance of positive mind share when it comes to Apple products. Many non-techies think of Jobs when they think of Apple and vise versa. Imagine people hearing that Jobs could be a massive jerk over and over again.

The funny thing is that by many accounts, this movie was very fair to him. And if you want to see a unflattering portrayal of Jobs Pirates of Silicon Valley was much better.
 
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I certainly felt that Tim Cooks letter to Apple employees last week was over highlighting the facts that Steve was a much kinder gentler person.
 
Honestly, I'm starting to get tired of Ive. Buddy, you are not Steve, but your ego sure is about that size...

Besides, that I don't see it that way at all, - who, if not him, could be more excused to have one?
His ego may be big and thats fine, because its foundation is well earned. On the other hand, what gives you the right to judge other people anyways?
 
exactly. its not a charity. its a company. what do people expect? lol
well... these are the people who would definitely go get a new phone if their samsung chip is 2 point lower than their TSMC chip :p
 
If I've learned anything about Steve, is that he loves you when you're useful and tosses you out when you're not..
That's how you get things done. There's no way around it. But far too many companies nowadays keep parasites rather than toss them out :/
 
I still wonder what we would be using today if Jobs was still alive.
Don't be silly. It takes years and years to come out with an entirely new product. There was tons of time of incrementally altered iPods and Macs in the 00s. Sugar coat it all you want, the iPad technically is just a scaled up iPhone.

I hope the watch ends up being great, in an iteration or two. It has potential.
 
There wouldn't be any iPad with a stylus!
He spoke about the iPhone when he ridiculed the stylus. And as chance would have it, there is still no iPhone with Apple Pencil support. Jobs dead didn't change how Apple feels about pointing devices for smartphones. Meanwhile the rest of the world has accepted that physical keyboards on phones are a thing of the past.
 
The funny thing is that by many accounts, this movie was very fair to him.
And yet ends in 1998. Fine you get assistance from people like Woz and Andy Hertzfeld but you get zero input from anyone who worked closely with him from 1998-2011. Do those years and those people's opinions not matter? Bottom line is its way too early to be making movies about Steve Jobs. The ones that have been made so far don't a paint complete picture of the man.
 
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.....Perhaps because the imminent risk of getting fired? sued? running the business into the ground? getting one's behind kicked?.....
I disagree. More businesses are run into the ground by entitled and sub-par performing lackeys feeling secure in their jobs while only delivering mediocrity in exchange for that steady paycheck.

Firing an underperforming employee, and running the risk of perhaps having to pay a settlement is probably the better choice in the long run for most companies trying to compete in todays demanding business environment.

There is a reason most successful businesses run 'a tight ship'..... there's no room for slackers in today's competitive world economy. Keep up, or run the risk of going under.
 
Yeah... Coz nothing succeeded under Jobs.
Right like video on the iPod which Jobs pooh-poohed until he released one. And how web apps were the future until the App Store was a thing and then it was native FTW. How nobody read books and then we get the iBooks store. Jobs would have released a bigger phone and would've made everyone believe bigger is better.
 
If we had proper tech media, they'd be grilling Jony Ive about some of the more questionable decisions he approved as part of iOS 7, and his competency as a GUI designer. Instead we get an Apple press conference/marketing material passed off as an interview.

Look, the guy has done some great designwork, and some shoddy designwork. To give him the chief design job is to ignore the second part of my previous statement.
 
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The lack of Jobs is only becoming more and more apparent as the years fly-by.

The Key Apple people (CEO T. Cook, a manager, a clark, CDO J. Ive, a designer, and only after - a few places down the ladder - come technicians for software and hardware) are reflected in the company priorities (revenues, look & feel, technology proper is little by little put down the road).

Apple needs some tecnological breakthrough, and soon. An example, IMHO, is MS with its docking liitle box for the new Lumia phones. Today, smart phones are actually powerful computers, and I'd love to see some iPhone 7 connected to a monitor, keyboard and mouse, just like my Mac mini. But with the full desktop OS, like OS X, to run Fcpx or similar programs. IOS is nice and useful, but not on the level for professional work.

Etc.
 
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Apple needs some tecnological breakthrough, and soon. An example, IMHO, is MS with its docking liitle box for the new Lumia phones. Today, smart phones are actually powerful computers, and I'd love to see some iPhone 7 connected to a monitor, keyboard and mouse, just like my Mac mini. But with the full desktop OS, like OS X, to run Fcpx or similar programs. IOS is nice and useful, but not on the level for professional work.

Etc.

How about we get breakthroughs not centered around the desktop? AI, AR/VR are much more interesting to me than connecting my phone to a monitor and it becoming a desktop PC. Apple does have patents in this area so I hope this is stuff they're working on.

Also if my windows phone is a PC that can be connected to a monitor and keyboard why do I need a Surface Pro or Surface Book? I'll just use the phone when I'm on the go and connect it when I'm at home or in the office.
 
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Ive also commented on his new role as Chief Design Officer, saying that he "should have done this years ago"

I wish he had....maybe OS X wouldn't look like a kindergartner got hold of it. :D

allows him to be more hands-off with day-to-day operations

Thank God!

in addition to focusing on new ideas and future initiatives.

No no no. No "new ideas" on the GUI please. Go back to hardware where you belong!

Ive's day-to-day management of the design team has been turned over to Alan Dye, vice president of user interface design, and Richard Howarth, vice president of industrial design.

I hope Alan Dye isn't a kindergartner art fan too.... :confused:
 
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If I've learned anything about Steve, is that he loves you when you're useful and tosses you out when you're not. Since Jony has been kicking ass since day 1, I doubt he ever had to witness the negative side of Steve.

I had a boss like that once. It was brilliant. Best boss i ever had. Other people hated him and he eventually moved on. I was in and out of the inner circle a few times as others sometimes became more useful to him. While you had his ear though, he was the best person in the world to work for as he promote you quickly and just leave you to get on with things and would trust you and act on what you said. Then, when you found yourself out of the circle you worked damn hard to get back in cos it was such a nice place to be! LOL.... Utter genius management style! :) It was a roller coaster ride all the way, but I miss my old boss; i've never said that statement about any other boss i've had despite them all being nice people.
 
Ive still rocking those Wallabees! <3

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edit: seems to be his thing though
 
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