Jony Ive on Apple Watch Series 4: 'Every Bone in My Body Tells Me This is Very Significant'

[Justanotherfanboy]

It is called "History".

Lol, thank you “oh great keeper of history” for deciding for all of us lessers what is relevant & what is not! Thank you for sharing your infinite wisdom w/ regards to how devices designed to get people to stand up more often, encourage them to exercise, prompt them to do deep breathing, and now- alert the appropriate people in case of a serious fall, & warn them of impending heart issues is “irrelevant”... unlike brightly colored music players of yesteryear. We all stand in awe of your magnificence & eagerly await another bathing in your illuminating decrees!

Lol... obviously I’m being sarcastic- but please, remember to preface your OPINIONS with “I think”... “to me it seems like...” & the ilk, and you won’t come off as trying to force them on others w/ the arrogance that they are “fact”, when they are indeed, merely opinions; no more or less relevant than any of the rest of ours!!! =)

 

[aaronhead14]

Every bone in his body also removed the headphone jack from iPhone and designed that awful trashcan Mac Pro, so...

 

[laz232]

That’s Your opinion. If it’s too expensive for you, no problem, don’t buy it.

Don't conflate "over-priced" with "can't afford". I can, for example buy any iPhone I want (heck I could buy quite a few models of cars in cash if I felt the need for it), yet I refuse to buy the new X series because they are way over-priced for the marginal functionality increase over even an iPhone 7 for me. (I will consider going from my SE to a 7 next year).

Even this new watch, given my age and family heart health issues would be intriguing (though functionality is not available in my country), but to be honest I think I'm better off for my overall health to ignore this appeal to "better-safe-than-sorry" worry-gadget and invest in a yoga retreat instead.

Yes the device is interesting in terms of technology, but appealing to counter-factuals ("I wouldn't be alive today without my Apple Watch") is great for the small number of ppl it helps -but does not take into account the increasing worry-burden that such technology brings with it.

PS I used to work on medical ultrasound imaging equipment for amongst other things atherosclerosis so I'm not against technology per-se...

 

[yaxomoxay]

It is called "History".

Nope. There is nothing intrinsically useful/useless, good/bad in any object.
It’s up to the situation and the user.

 

[ob81]

People don’t want to admit this because they want it to fail. They want everything under Tim Cook to fail.

I don't agree with this. People simply want great products. Great Apple products. I think the issue with Tim is that he is more of a numbers guy than a true visionary. He was the perfect selection for shareholders. I bet he walked into his screening interview with a portfolio full of ways he could increase profits.

 

[laz232]

Every bone in his body also removed the headphone jack from iPhone and designed that awful trashcan Mac Pro and removed, so...

Not to mention the aesthetics (I don't care who copies it - it's ugly) of the notch in the X, the rather boring iPhone 6,7,8 designs.

I mean the iPhone 5 is just beautiful, the original Macbook Pro unibody as well, but some of his later choices have been very questionable.

 

[Atreyu25]

To some of us, it is more than just a watch. Being one of the people who have health issues the watch can help monitor and maintain, it's become more important to me than my phone, my laptop, or even having a car.

Being able to get a heads up before y have a syncopic episode has saved me from potential live ending events (fainting in a car while driving 65 on the interstate would be catastrophic).

And I just have the first gen watch. I use it to feed data to an app that monitors my heart rate at a set rate and gives me an alarm when the rate rises or drops below thresholds. Now that the Series 4 does a lot of that build in, and I don't necessarily have to be tethered to my phone, it will become even more invaluable.

As for Jony's pretentiousness, well, the man does design Apple products. You kind of want someone who's really really in love with your company and product to design for you. Can't fault him for that.

Would you mind sharing the name of the app, that you feed the data into?
Thank you!

 

[Mr. Dee]

Folks, stop saying bad things about him, he reads the forums.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Don't conflate "over-priced" with "can't afford". I can, for example buy any iPhone I want (heck I could buy quite a few models of cars in cash if I felt the need for it), yet I refuse to buy the new X series because they are way over-priced for the marginal functionality increase over even an iPhone 7 for me. (I will consider going from my SE to a 7 next year).

Even this new watch, given my age and family heart health issues would be intriguing (though functionality is not available in my country), but to be honest I think I'm better off for my overall health to ignore this appeal to "better-safe-than-sorry" worry-gadget and invest in a yoga retreat instead.

Yes the device is interesting in terms of technology, but appealing to counter-factuals ("I wouldn't be alive today without my Apple Watch") is great for the small number of ppl it helps -but does not take into account the increasing worry-burden that such technology brings with it.

PS I used to work on medical ultrasound imaging equipment for amongst other things atherosclerosis so I'm not against technology per-se...

A yoga retreat and a Watch are not mutually exclusive...

 

[L-Viz]

Lol, thank you “oh great keeper of history” for deciding for all of us lessers what is relevant & what is not! Thank you for sharing your infinite wisdom w/ regards to how devices designed to get people to stand up more often, encourage them to exercise, prompt them to do deep breathing, and now- alert the appropriate people in case of a serious fall, & warn them of impending heart issues is “irrelevant”... unlike brightly colored music players of yesteryear. We all stand in awe of your magnificence & eagerly await another bathing in your illuminating decrees!

Lol... obviously I’m being sarcastic- but please, remember to preface your OPINIONS with “I think”... “to me it seems like...” & the ilk, and you won’t come off as trying to force them on others w/ the arrogance that they are “fact”, when they are indeed, merely opinions; no more or less relevant than any of the rest of ours!!! =)

I am sorry. You are right. There is always another opinion.

"Justanotherfanboy" can absolutely think, that the watch or all its bands are as relevant as the iPhone or the Mac. It can be his opinion.

Or that non existing charging mat. Or that stylus, that connects to the lightning port of the device, that you wanna use with your stylus, what you can't , while charging ...

Have Your opinion, I will stick to the scientific method....

 

[Nozuka]

For me personally it did not make a big step forward, except maybe for the bigger screens.
But that's not going to change what i do with it. Don't have enough complications i actually use to make the space useful.
And i'm not going to consume any content on it..

But still some nice additions for when i actually upgrade my S3 to the S5 or S6

 

[SBlue1]

It's just a watch.

My grandpa has one of those emergency beepers so when he slips in the shower or falls for whatever reason he can call help with the press of one button. He will be getting the new Apple watch. With the fall sensor and automatic call this thing can save lives!

 

[StyxMaker]

like no offense, but he sounds so pretentious. it's just a watch.

Like the iPhone has never been just a phone, the Apple Watch has never been just a watch.

 

[Michael Goff]

I am sorry. You are right. There is always another opinion.

"Justanotherfanboy" can absolutely think, that the watch or all its bands are as relevant as the iPhone or the Mac. It can be his opinion.

Or that non existing charging mat. Or that stylus, that connects to the lightning port of the device, that you wanna use with your stylus, what you can't , while charging ...

Have Your opinion, I will stick to the scientific method....

There is no scientific method to deciding whether a product is good or not. Don't pretend otherwise. You simply stated things you want, nothing more.

 

[L-Viz]

Nope. There is nothing intrinsically useful/useless, good/bad in any object.
It’s up to the situation and the user.

What about radioactive waste? Or Crotch Crickets?

I think, Tim Cooks "innovations" fall under that category.

And I am afraid, that millions of panicking but healthy people will flood the ERs of hospitals because of their watch alarms them ... 99,99% will walk out these hospitals having nothing, while that 0,01% will be presented to us by Cook in his next Keynote... and how the "Apple Watch saved one life" ...

It is not the watch that saves that life, but the doctors, and Jony's bones can't tell, if the watch will lead to a true statistically significant benefit of public health. Only double-blinded studies over decades can prove that.

But that red ECG-line and lots of hand clapping?advertising will work to fool enough people into believing it...

 

[tridley68]

You dropped the ball on this one Jony where is the ceramic version i don't want some cheap aluminum where is the good stuff.

 

[loveandhavefun]

Are his bones made of aluminium, find out after the break

 

[L-Viz]

There is no scientific method to deciding whether a product is good or not. Don't pretend otherwise. You simply stated things you want, nothing more.

Of course there is. Do You really think, that science can not prove, that cars are more important than fake vomit?

 

[Rogifan]

I don't agree with this. People simply want great products. Great Apple products. I think the issue with Tim is that he is more of a numbers guy than a true visionary. He was the perfect selection for shareholders. I bet he walked into his screening interview with a portfolio full of ways he could increase profits.

Don’t agree. One could argue the Apple Watch is more important/meaningful than the iPod ever was. The iPhone X in my pocket is better in every way than any iPhone released under Steve Jobs. The products I use on a daily basis - iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch - are great products. Sure they’re not for everybody but neither were products under Steve Jobs.

 

[Michael Goff]

Of course there is. Do You really think, that science can not prove, that cars are more important than fake vomit?

That's not even remotely similar to this and you know it. These are judging one car versus another, not cars and fake vomit.

 

[StyxMaker]

A phone with a smaller screen would also help with the imperative of being in touch, without the tendency to get sucked into social media as much.

#SE4Lyfe.

If you are ‘sucked into social media’ more than you like, the problem is with you, not your devices. Just like, if I eat too much, the problem is with me not with the fast food businesses that sell hamburgers.

 

[Jimmy James]

I’ll bet there’s one bone that highlights this sentiment more than all the others.

 

[sw1tcher]

Steve Jobs Era

MacIntosh - significant
iMac - significant
iPod - significant
iPhone - significant
iPad - significant


Bozo Era

Apple Watch - irrelevant
Home Pod - irrelevant
Non existing charging mat - irrelevant
Watch bands - irrelevant

Bozo Era

Courage - significant

 

[0958400]

Ive's superpower is hyperbole.

I absolutely agree. I am so sick of these presentations filled with phrases in which only the product name is replaced.

"Most ... ever" / "amazing".... I finished my ******** bingo in the first five minutes of the presentation.

The difference between Steve saying it, was that he truly believed it (or made it appear so). Today it seems only empty.
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Oh God, he's at it again

On a serious note, I think the Apple Watch update was more significant than the iPhone this year.

Sometimes I wonder if all he does is to narrate the videos in which he sounds like he's intimate with the product. X)

 

[OVERTASK]

Careful relying too much on the EKG. Yes it's FDA approved, but cardiologists tell me wrist measurements are often inaccurate.

You are both right and wrong. Wrist measurements for pulse (which is what they were likely referring to) use an optical sensor which has variable accuracy depending on quite a few different factors. The ECG uses electrodes to measure your heart's electrical impulses, the limitation comes not so much from the location, but rather from the quantity of leads.

Hopefully though the detection of potential afib will lead you seek out a doctor instead of trying to make sense of the raw readout of a 1 lead ECG, which by the way good luck if you do since a doc will only take a cursory glance before recommending a proper ECG.