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Steve Jobs Era

MacIntosh - significant
iMac - significant
iPod - significant
iPhone - significant
iPad - significant


Bozo Era

Apple Watch - irrelevant
Home Pod - irrelevant
Non existing charging mat - irrelevant
Watch bands - irrelevant

Speak for yourself. Apple Watch and Airpods are revolutionary. iPhone has also made leaps and bounds improvements under "bozo era." iPad has made respectable improvements... but Mac let's not speak about.
 
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I would say its way more than that. It really is becoming a mature health device in the sense of what it has to offer. The EKG, fall detection, heart readings, ect. If first started As a communication/notification device, its far more than that and it still evolving.

I agree, but now we’re going to be reading articles about all the false positives and visits by the “worried well” to the ER. The tech is interesting and will be a game changer for a small group of people. For the rest, it’s unnecessary and will likely only appeal to hypochondriacs.
 
You are both right and wrong. Wrist measurements for pulse (which is what they were likely referring to) use an optical sensor which has variable accuracy depending on quite a few different factors. The ECG uses electrodes to measure your heart's electrical impulses, the limitation comes not so much from the location, but rather from the quantity of leads.

Hopefully though the detection of potential afib will lead you seek out a doctor instead of trying to make sense of the raw readout of a 1 lead ECG, which by the way good luck if you do since a doc will only take a cursory glance before recommending a proper ECG.
Exactly, which is why you don't really rely on it, unless you're just relying on it to take a guess that something might be wrong.

Again, it's better than nothing, but the decision is whether it's worth buying the Apple Watch for this or some other wearable.
 
Steve Jobs Era

MacIntosh - significant
iMac - significant
iPod - significant
iPhone - significant
iPad - significant


Bozo Era

Apple Watch - irrelevant
Home Pod - irrelevant
Non existing charging mat - irrelevant
Watch bands - irrelevant
$800B in shareholder value - significant.
 
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Of course there is. Do You really think, that science can not prove, that cars are more important than fake vomit?

Absolutely untrue. Try to be in a room full of young kids. You’ll see that fake vomit will help your sanity distracting the kids much more than a parked Ferrari. (Unless you want to play real life “Carmageddon: Kindergarten”, but then you’ll have different issues)
 
I absolutely agree. I am so sick of these presentations filled with phrases in which only the product name is replaced.

"Most ... ever" / "amazing".... I finished my ******** bingo in the first five minutes of the presentation. :D

Indeed this marketing-gibberish is just so annoying... The same lame phrases over and over again. They overstress it massively, so any credibility is lost. Totally lost. The Apple execs sound like puppets merely memorising phrases as taught by their marketing coaches

In fact, the "new"watch is just an iteration, featuring no exciting new features to speak of (minus the ECG for someone with heart conditions, perhaps)

First and foremost:

- Its still ugly and looks like a cheapo fashion watch. And its still rectangular (yuck)
- Its still isn't as programmable as I'd like it to be
- Way too expensive for what it is
 
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So the watch has reduced his dependancy on his phone? Much like my phone has reduced my dependancy on my TV? And thousands of people have written to Apple to say how a product they bought from them has saved their lives? Perhaps that many has, if they were hoping for a freebie or some publicity.

The hyperbolic spiel that comes out of Cupertino these days makes me feel nauseous. It's headed in the right direction, leave it at that. Perhaps let the product and it's benefits do the talking for a change.
It's NOT just Ive or Apple that is saying that about the Apple Watch. It's a large portion of the press!

https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+watch+saved+my+life&oq=apple+watch+saved+
 
IMO, most people who complain about the watch are only looking at it from the perspective of being a watch. I've worn mine daily now since the first iteration, and aside from the abysmal battery life of AW1, it has been fantastic. From navigation to reminders, to silent notifications of phone calls, etc., to being able to monitor heart rate during workouts, to tracking running distance with Runkeeper, etc., the watch is remarkable. Beyond that, what has really been great for me is the fact that the silicon watch band is unbelievably comfortable. I hate jewelry and didn't wear a watch since middle school until my wife bought me an Apple Watch. I truly forget I have it on.

Yes, it's a whole lot more expensive than a Timex, but it does so much more. I'm looking forward to the larger face and enhanced abilities. Think of all the people who spend SO much more for something that is ONLY a watch. I'm very critical of Cook's leadership, but I do believe the AW is a great product.
 
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Well at this rate the Apple Watch will be the same price as the iPhone 11 or 12. Unless those phones will be 1,200 to 1,500 and the watches 999. Hopefully by then the watches will be completely independent of the iPhones. ‍♂️‍♂️‍♂️
The LTE ones are now, aren't they?
 
I think it's about time old Jony stopped stuffing cakes in his mouth, started to wear the watch he keep promoting and uses the dam thing to get some exercise done to shift all the fat he's now carrying.........

Hardly an example for the product is he?

From this:

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To this.........


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With the help of "his" Apple watch in just a few years.
 
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You are both right and wrong. Wrist measurements for pulse (which is what they were likely referring to) use an optical sensor which has variable accuracy depending on quite a few different factors. The ECG uses electrodes to measure your heart's electrical impulses, the limitation comes not so much from the location, but rather from the quantity of leads.

Hopefully though the detection of potential afib will lead you seek out a doctor instead of trying to make sense of the raw readout of a 1 lead ECG, which by the way good luck if you do since a doc will only take a cursory glance before recommending a proper ECG.
I’m wodering/hoping whether some clever researcher can develop other algorithms for the electrical signal sensors to detect othermedical conditions?
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You could have done a better job minimizing its impact, because it really is not just a watch.
Exactly, the time keeping aspect is marginal compared with all the other things it can and will do.
 
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