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I won't buy a new Apple device until they fix this. At this point, it appears that I will never be buying another Apple product again.

If you don't feel a company is meeting your requirements, this is the correct response -- rather than calling a bottom-feeding lawyer. No one is forcing you to use an Apple iPhone, or any Apple product. Apple has many competitors in every one of their market segments.
 
Oh give us a break.
You are literally up voting EVERY SINGLE post against Apple in the forum. You think it passed unnoticed?...

It seem's you and SirCheese balance out the forum then.;) It's like he's the prosecution and you're the defense. For every perceived negative post, there you are with it's antithesis. I liken it to equalibrium; balance restored so to speak.
 
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It seem's you and SirCheese balance out the forum then.;) It's like he's the prosecution and you're the defense. For every perceived negative post, there you are with it's antithesis. I liken it to equalibrium; balance restored so to speak.
He's just antithesis to everyone. It's rather disturbing. And that he feels the need to lie saying I am voting up every single anti-Apple post is just astoundingly absurd.
 
...but Judge Koh's history with Apple makes her suspect. Her Prior decisions which have been questionable, and even some overruled for overstepping by other judges makes her even more suspect.

For one, Prior to her appointment as a judge, she worked for the law firm, on the team that represented Apple's legal / patent team.
during the Samsung v Apple patent dispute. She had One injunction she imposed against samsung overturned by other courts because "Overstepped her bounds".
During the Samsung V Apple case she regularly allowed evidence from Apple, while rejecting the same evidence from Samsung
She also gave incorrect instructions to the Jury of the same case.

Over and Over again, her name keeps poppping up with these questionable activities as a judge. I'm not saying she's corrupt,...

First, had there been even a hint of evidence that Koh was biased toward one party or the other, the adversely affected party would have immediately appealed and demanded that she recuse herself or the case be transferred to a different district. That didn't happen and hasn't happened. If called upon to make enough decisions in a trial, some of them are going to be appealed (that's an actual strategy by some).

Second, having in-trial decisions or a portion of jury instructions overturned happens all the time and means nothing other than an appeals court disagreed with that particular decision in whole or in part. It's corrected and you move on.

Third, once evidence is allowed, it doesn't have to be allowed again just because it is submitted by the other party. A crime scene photo is still the same photo no matter who submits it. "Allowed into evidence" means it can be used by either litigant to support their case or refute the other. Judges tend to admit evidentiary materials narrowly focused to the actual case on trial. Especially at the federal level, where the backlog of cases makes judges kranky and time sensitive.

As the appeals courts have regularly upheld the findings of the Samsung trial and not remanded back, your premise as to Koh's bias or competence is flawed. And I'm not sure that I see a significant enough constitutional question (re design patents) to have the Supremes actually hear the case. It's over for Samsung. Get out the checkbook and start your new life.
 
I'm done going, ignored that person. They accused me of trolling.
I'm not a moderator, so I can't say if you can or you can't, but for what my opinion counts YES, you are trolling the forum on a systematic way.
Don't get me wrong: do it if it please you, whatever your agenda is.
It's Christmas, and we all feel good-hearted :D
 
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Yeah, but we're talking about Americans. They are inherently lazy and if you tell them to disable that they just reply with "ain't nobody got time for that".

Oh, it doesn't work properly even though it was my fault I didn't flip a switch? Your ass is getting sued!

Lol, ok, but note that I'm American. We're not lazy, though def not sue happy.
 
It seem's you and SirCheese balance out the forum then.;) It's like he's the prosecution and you're the defense. For every perceived negative post, there you are with it's antithesis. I liken it to equalibrium; balance restored so to speak.

Eh, I actually don't like Apple the company. I just really like their products. Some things (like still having a 16GB device really irk me about them). With that said, they don't deserve baseless lawsuits.
 
It's funny, back then I was switching between an iPhone and an android device and never had an issue turning iMessage off before popping the sim out. Hell I still don't have an issue and never once have I had to use the website to deregister my number.
 
I usually despise class action lawsuits. But iMessages are still being gobbled up by Apple and not being sent as SMSs to my Android device. It is infuriating, and Apple is of no help. I used their web tool, and no improvement.

I won't buy a new Apple device until they fix this. At this point, it appears that I will never be buying another Apple product again. I have missed several very important messages, and had a few peeved friends and family members think I was ignoring them.
That's why there are phones; or you need a new circle. Ones that understand these communications are not reliable.
 
Well, I always get duplicate messages from people with Droids, so when people switch to Droids and don't get messages, I call that a wash. We're done here.
 
It is obvious now that Apple is paying off judges in this country. This lawsuit was one of the few lawsuits that wasn't frivolous.
 
Just takes a search of MR or any search engine, to realise this was a quite big issue. So how come the judge saw it as a non issue ? Seems weird to me based on the data available.
Who said the judge "saw it as a non-issue"? Perhaps it simply didn't meet legal standards.

Many Americans need to realize that most people don't try to solve all of life's issues with lawsuits.
 
It’s user error. You’re supposed to disable iMessages before leaving the iOS device. Follow that simple step and you’d never of missed a message. Later they realized that people weren’t doing that so they setup a website to allow people to unregister. Doesn’t warrant a lawsuit.

For those that are still missing messages, talk to your sender who's sending it to your email ID instead of phone number.

It may be user error, but Apple should make it easier for the non-tech savvy users, which make a large proportion of their user base, to be informed that they need to do so, or make the whole process easier for them. Even if you disable it before leaving, many users have still reported issues.
 
It is obvious now that Apple is paying off judges in this country. This lawsuit was one of the few lawsuits that wasn't frivolous.

It's obvious to me that people continue to abuse the courts in this country by trying to make a buck off of one frivolous lawsuit after another. And if this isn't frivolous, as you claim, then they would've had a lot more than three plaintiffs.
 
It is obvious now that Apple is paying off judges in this country. This lawsuit was one of the few lawsuits that wasn't frivolous.
Nope. Research Koh's decisions involving Apple. Rulings have gone for and against. Same with other judges. The lawsuit may not have been frivolous, but the plaintiff's were ill prepared for a legal battle. Proper planning prevents piss poor performance. Their ducks weren't in a row and the got hammered.
 
If you don't feel a company is meeting your requirements, this is the correct response -- rather than calling a bottom-feeding lawyer. No one is forcing you to use an Apple iPhone, or any Apple product. Apple has many competitors in every one of their market segments.

seriously what is the point of sentences like the one bolded above?

and even more confusing (especially considering the bolded part) is that this happens to people that are moving from an apple product so they literally are forced.

Good because Apple should not be forced to help people switch to a competitor.

not helping and standing in the way are two totally different things.

It's obvious to me that people continue to abuse the courts in this country by trying to make a buck off of one frivolous lawsuit after another. And if this isn't frivolous, as you claim, then they would've had a lot more than three plaintiffs.

what is frivolous about it?
 
The fact that Apple had trouble getting a service working reliably does not mean that they broke the law.

The assertion in this case implied that Apple deliberately singled out some Andriod switchers to break their messages. The judge saw through this.

Perhaps searching the Internet is not an accurate gage for how serious a problem really is. In the end only three persons brought this claim against Apple - all from the same family!

And I'm sure it had more to do with greedy lawyers than anything else. The vast majority of class action lawsuits are baseless and 100% of them include blood sucking lawyers' attempts to cash in.
 
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But when it's her name that pops up. I have doubts about the motivation of the decision and would prefer it go to someone else.

Out of curiosity, what is your basis for this belief? Not judging (no pun intended) your right to have an opinion, but just wondering if there's any sort of evidence to support this. From my experience, people who believe that a judge rules in favor of Apple for any reason other than the merits of their case are people who are generally irrational Apple haters.
 
This judge is an idiot, considering this problem still isn't fixed. I forgot to turn off iMessage when I switched from my 6S to my new Nexus 6P and wasn't receiving any messages. The only reason I remembered to disable it after a few days was that all my iMessages were still going to my MacBook.

It’s user error. You’re supposed to disable iMessages before leaving the iOS device. Follow that simple step and you’d never of missed a message. Later they realized that people weren’t doing that so they setup a website to allow people to unregister. Doesn’t warrant a lawsuit.
This wasn't common knowledge before it became a big issue.
 
Three people having issues migrating over to Android is basis enough for a lawsuit, in your opinion? Come on, dude.

are you dismissing because of the number of plaintiffs because your wording makes it seem as its their fault and not a problem/bug with imessage
 
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