It's not just switching, they have to demonstrate under exact conditions this affects 100% of users, the exact use case/user journey .
For people who switched it only effected those that did not turn off thier iMessage etc..
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Judge Dismisses Android-Switching iMessage Lawsuit Against Apple
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It's not just switching, they have to demonstrate under exact conditions this affects 100% of users, the exact use case/user journey .
For people who switched it only effected those that did not turn off thier iMessage etc..
I do because I see the same crap over and over again. I live in America, dude...the frivolous lawsuit capital of the world. So you'll forgive me if I don't sympathize with three ******s who didn't press an onscreen button and now want to get paid for it.
I'm far from an Apple hater. I think majority of the products are fantastic. I own some. I buy them for others and recommend them.
I just think that quite a few of their corporate practices are questionable and are ethically wrong.
I hold them to no different standards than anyone else in the industry.
As for my questioning Judge Koh's ability to judge without bias there have been a couple instances:
as I said before: One, she used to be employed by the law firm that represents Apple, and was on the team that defended Apple's patent laws. To me, this shows potential of her prior history having affect on her current bias due to her own pre-concieved expertise in Apple's point of view.
two: during the Samsung trial, there were a couple questionable judgements she made, that at least to me, leaned one way only.
One example of such was an Injunction she imposed against Samsung devices, which had to be overturned by a different judge. This judge went on record to saying that Koh "abused its discretion in enjoining the sales of the Galaxy Nexus". (http://betanews.com/2012/10/11/appeals-court-ruling-is-big-trouble-for-apple-and-judge-lucy-koh/)
Further evidence of her bias also creeped along with admission of evidence by Apple while rejecting similar from Samsung in their own defence. For example, Apple claimed Samsung's F700 copied the iPhone in design, and submitted evidence by way of photo showing the similarities. But when Samsung went to file evidence outlying how that design came to be (prior to 2006), Koh rejected the evidence as immaterial and as "too late in the process"
Further, Her instructions to the Jury at deliberation time has been seen as questionable, and not accurate and was overwhelmingly contradictory and large (109pages).
I don't think there is any intended malice or corruption. I just think her past experiences working for indirectly for Apple in the very type of case she was presiding means she should have not been the judge to oversee the case. It by minimum, raises potential biases towards one of the parties, which, even remotely, puts the fairness of trial in jeopardy. The purpose of courts are to be an fair, and unbiased judgement between two parties. Any doubt that such can occur should be remedied by removing the potential biased party from the process.
i dont know what "you" you are referring to but i have never said anything of that sort ie apple should pay huge fines for whatever just because they are apple and i seriously doubt you could link to a single post saying that.
lets say didnt get a job or didnt receive the winning lottery numbers would you seriously change your tune?
to me its part of a much bigger issue which is how little you actually get for your money.
in this case its frivolous (your word) lawsuits because apple is ignoring people. this lawsuit mentality is created by the corporations.
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I am switching from DirecTV to Dish next week but im only replacing two of my four receivers. I can still get the Dish signal on my old DirecTV receivers right? If not I am going to sue.
He said I up-vote EVERY anti-Apple post. And of course, he's wrong but that's his problem, not mine.
Are you kidding!? She should consider herself lucky to being allowed to have a phone.
Hmm, well tell that to the judge who dismissed the case.Ha! So for the two years before Apple issued a "fix", that single set of footprints in the sand belonged to Apple.
Hand held. Tehe.
You seem to forget the "manage iMessages" wasn't even widely known by Apple's employees. The general public was even less aware. The fact is, porting a phone number shouldn't be an ordeal. For all of Apple's lip service about simplicity and ease of use, this wasn't.
This issue came to light after people already switched !
That's right.... The warning and instructions must have been lost in people inboxes ! Wrong, people were never aware of it , and it seems to this day our Judges still dont believe it's an issue .
Nothing at all to do with tech savvy ! First phone device ever that messed up people's ability to sms each other ! Apple messed up ! One should never have to change settings before whiping a device! God forbid a scenario where your phone is damaged or stolen.... Think it through .... Even Apple support could not fix it..... Geez!
Do you actually believe this exists ?! Wow!!
That's a lot to ask of certain people when it comes to the defense of Apple.Think it through ....
The dismissal was issued because the plaintiff's were ill prepared to actually sue. That can't be confused with subject of the lawsuit lacking merit. They are not the same thing. I'm generally against lawsuits like this, but it did accomplish one goal. It got Apple to finally acknowledge the issue (2 years later) and issue a fix. The efficacy of that fix is still in debate btw. There's anecdotal evidence that the issue still persists today. Anecdotal, as always, YMMV.Hmm, well tell that to the judge who dismissed the case.
I have to disagree. But I do see the point you are trying to make.
The reason I disagree is based on personal experience. The friend I was talking about in my post is an executive at the company I work at. He makes a ton of money and has multiple, multiple kids. He only switched from an IPhone after having had many iphones between his own phones, his wifes, and his oldest kid. He just wanted to try something new. No ill will.
But once he was ignored by Apple and had all the issues based on a problem that Apple wasn't working hard to fix, he switched his wife and oldest kit to a Samsung, bought 2 more tablets (Samsung), and plans for his other kids had gone from Iphones to anything BUT iphones. He has since upgraded his first Samsung to the new one and that trend will continue with his wife and all of his kids since he usually tries to have the newest technology. So the kids are now going to be non-Apple centric and be exposed to only non-apple products. So guess what they will most likely buy throughout their lives?????? Non-apple I would guess.
Many people on here have valid opinions be it attacking or defending apple, though in this instance to have a dig at people's tech "savvyness" when even apple support were unable to rectify the problem is showing the compete opposite of what is tech savvy.....
And you clearly have evidences for that accusation?
Says who ? You ?
iMessage is a service provided by Apple, for free. You use it. You have to turn it OFF if you want to leave. Easy and straight.
I did, on one of my two SIMs, and it worked as supposed to work.
If you don't want to "handle" it, just don't use iMessage and you'll be ok.
Don't forget: because they didn't turn it off before wiping the phone.
Hindsight makes everything obvious. Your posts have conveniently ignored the fact Apple's own people didn't know what you now consider common sense. Also, 2 years to offer a fix that reportedly doesn't work in every instance? Yeah, that's not one I'd hang my hat on in defense of Apple.
Sounds like you should tell your friends you moved to a phone that is incompatible with their more useful devices and to change thier contact for you to text. If find text messages to be far less reliable through att especially when you have a weak signal. I message is an apple App just like using messenger. If you no longer use he app and neglect to tell your friends that on you. You had the option of sending everything text at all times if you thought that was a better system. I personally don't like texting droid people because long text end up coming as multiples and let's not talk about large files.