Again, the demo units do not run as well as the production units do. Not to say there aren't any bugs, but the demo software is not coded well at all.
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Again, the demo units do not run as well as the production units do. Not to say there aren't any bugs, but the demo software is not coded well at all.
I'm still debating whether to pick one up or no.
Compared to iOS, there was lag and delay. I was (still am?) seriously considering buying one, but worry that it will become a discarded toy in 1 month's time
Keep in Mind that the Demo units that are in the retail stores are running some sort of Demo package. This package has basically crippled these devices. Lots of owners have made it clear that their personal devices run night and day better then the display models that are out there.
Don't know what HP did to the Demo devices, but my personal experience has been zero lag at all and an awesome experience so far.
-Gromet
so seriously you're past the normal 48 hour buyer remorse stage...how is it? does the lack of apps really come into play? and does it have any sort of backlight bleed that other non-iPad tablets have been reporting lately?
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Bingo. I'll add one more, integration. Specifically Airport Express and accessories (car dock) for me.
Also, after using iOS 5 for a few days I do think iCloud is going to put iOS even further ahead. Keeping the device in sync with all my other Apple devices has become effortless. I take a picture and it's on every device. I plug my device in and lock the screen and it syncs. I do nothing to make either happen. Love it.
No freaking kidding! In the 3 years I've had an iPhone there have been a few times that I truly needed flash on the device and every. single. time. it was a video. A video that would've taken less resources to play if served in HTML5.
To the OP, I played with it at Best Buy yesterday and am glad to hear that the lagginess is form the demo software. I really like WebOS's look and feel but wasn't hot on how the browser handled multiple web pages as grouped cards. The gestures were very nice though and miles ahead of HoneyComb (which I also played with and definitely do not like). The size and weight are issues though as it's noticeably thicker and heavier than an iPad. My favorite part had to be quick access to wifi, etc from the status bar. I really wish iOS had better access.
Seriously, I am loving the Touchpad. The lack of apps really hasn't affected me all that much yet. The One App they were supposed to have ready on Launch that didn't make it was the Kindle App. The app is on the main page but it's just a placeholder that sais that an update will be coming soon. So the Kindle App does not work, they are supposed to have an update out very soon that will enable the app. Thats the only app I really miss right now.
I use my touchpad to browse the web, get emails, schedule calendar entries, check facebook, read up on my RSS feeds, check stocks, watch a video on ocassion, check the weather, play a game from time to time, HBO GO & Zinio Magazines (No App but the Websites works fine). I can do all of these things right now on my touchpad.
There are things I was able to do on the iPad2 that I cannot on the Touchpad yet. Read Kindle Books (App Update Coming Soon), Netflix (App should be coming soon acording to what info we have. the only other thing are some games that are not available for the Touchpad but I very rarely ever played a gome on my iPad so no big loss there anyway.
-Gromet
Not really sure what the OP was expecting to get when raving about an HP tablet on a mac forum.......
That's like me going to a vegetarian forum and posting
"Hey guy's, I recently ate a whole pig and it was delicious! Veggies are so 90's!!!"
That's like me going to a vegetarian forum and posting
"Hey guy's, I recently ate a whole pig and it was delicious! Veggies are so 90's!!!"
thanks for the reply, kindle and netflix are indeed necessities of life for any mobile device, not a big game player so not a deal breaker there, how is the ease of transfers of movie files and such?
Sorry, no "widgets" in WebOS. Maybe if you were more knowledgeable in things before you spoke of them you could maybe come across better instead of coming across like a stuck up, little brained, sheep of a person. Go follow you flock...
-Gromet
I tested one out at Best Buy yesterday and I didn't walk away too impressed with the "multitasking" features. No doubt, it is a step up from what iOS offers but I didn't think it was the giant's leap that it is often said to be. It still isn't true multitasking like we've seen with Windows 8's amazing "snap" feature. Instead, it feels like a really good app switcher, although most of its functionality can be replicated by jailbreaking.
Very Simple. There are Apps for syncing your music, videos, pics etc... Very simple, or even easier, when you plug the Touchpad into your PC, it can be a Mass Storage Drive. So all you have to do is drag and drop them into whatever folder you want (Videos, Music, Ringtones, Etc...) Couldn't be easier.
-Gromet
Sounds like a broken mess of a tablet. If Apple ever shipped something like that everyone would be laughing their assess off. I feel so bad for you having to defend such a crappy purchase.
It's funny, because you didn't describe doing anything on that heavy piece of plastic that you can't do on anything else, except for use Flash, which is the equivalent of giving yourself Herpes. You're just using a second-rate OS on a second-rate tablet to do tasks in a poorer and less efficient manner than using iOS.
Don't hold back, why don't you tell us how you truly feel?
Haha, but you know it's true. If Apple ever shipped anything that was even remotely sub-par as these craplets it'd be the big story on every website and news channel. People review these tablets on a curve. They ignore a crappy, laggy-as-hell OS and incomplete implementations and crap hardware (heavy, thick, plastic garbage), where as if Apple released the same thing it'd be "Oh my god Apple is failing!!!!"
Your funny radiogoober. You are just showing how uninformed you are. Keep drinking the "Apple Koolaid" if you want...
There is nothing "less efficient" about WebOS, as a matter of fact the OS itself is built to be the more efficitent OS when compared to iOS. The Notifications, phone integration, Flash enabled browsing & multi-tasking are leaps and bound above iOS. Making it more efficient from the get go.
-Gromet
Wow. You just said that Flash-enabled browsing is "efficient."
That's ****ing hilarious.
LOL,
ef·fi·cient/iˈfiSHənt/Adjective1. (esp. of a system or machine) Achieving maximum productivity with minimum wasted effort or expense.
So you think more efficient is browsing the web, getting to a website that you can't view, having to leave the browser, go scan the App store to see if there is an app the will make up for this, buy and download the app (if it exists) then launching said app, or not launching the app if it does not exist and just having to deal with the fact that iOS's browser is lacking???
-Gromet
Great To hear that you are enjoying webOS. I am a great fan of the operating system and did cast curious eyes on the hp touch pad last week but what held me back was lack of apps, so I am postponing my first webs product until I have seen how things will pan out with developers and apps.
I really liked the video about webOs. Seems very polished and responsive, but then the bad reviews came up and I kinda forgot it...
I think you two are talking about different definitions. He's most likely referring to how inefficient Flash is regarding cpu cycles and battery life.
HP is DEAD LAST for reliability
SquareTrade, a third-party warranty seller, did some interesting statistics on laptops. They studied the failure rates of 30,000 portables. Guess who had the highest malfunction rate of them all?
Source:
http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_laptop_reliability_1109.pdf
My own experience:
I had a first-gen MacBook Pro. It was aluminum. It was awesome. It lasted 2.5 years. I sold it on Ebay and the next guy who got it actually sent me an email that he was so happy about the condition. After two and a half years of portable use, the thing only got one tiny scratch on the bottom.
I replaced the MacBook Pro with an HP HDX18T laptop because it was cheaper. Big mistake. You know what? It certainly IS cheaper. Everything is worse. Everything feels cheap.
The illuminated keyboard actually makes things harder to see; how did they pull that off? The entire body is warping anywhere there are hot spots. The bass/treble controls failed on day 4. The volume control failed right after the warranty expired.
They used the wrong trackpad part, so that the artwork didn't match (I have an 18" model and they used the 15" model's trackpad, which is the same size, but has different artwork on it). The trackpad is so smooth it's actually very high friction and grabby if your finger's skin has even the slightest moisture. Multi-finger gestures don't work for a damn. Oh, and Windows fails to recognize the fingerprint reader about 10% of the time on bootup.
When I went to add a second hard drive, I found out you have to buy an adapter. HP doesn't even accept standard 2.5" drives natively, you need to first mount the drive to a tray, then stick the tray in the laptop. And the tray is missing. And you can't buy it from HP; customer support says it's only included if I had bought two hard drives to begin with. So I had to find a tray on Ebay from some guy in Hong Kong who probably stole the parts from an HP factory and then sends it to me on the slow boat from China.
It came loaded with tons of crapware, bloatware, adware, and frankly a lot of stuff that is borderline malware. The HP updater, which is supposed to find updated drivers and software for my laptop, keeps insisting everything is up to date...yet when I go to the driver websites I find updated drivers.
It didn't come with the OS disks. That's right, HP saved 10 damn cents by not including the OS disks, which means I had to spend an hour burning the OS to DVD-Rs and label them with a sharpie. Oh, and the OS included with it? Vista. Do I need to say anything more?
Everything on the MacBook Pro worked, worked better, felt better, lasted the entire time I've had it, and apparently the next owner loves it too. It held an incredible amount of its value. I bought it for around a $1000 and sold it for around $650. My HP laptop is probably worthless, if I can even morally sell it, considering it has so many problems.
I will never, ever, buy another HP portable. Printer maybe, portable no.
SquareTrade, a third-party warranty seller, did some interesting statistics on laptops. They studied the failure rates of 30,000 portables. Guess who had the highest malfunction rate of them all?
Source:
http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_laptop_reliability_1109.pdf
My own experience:
I had a first-gen MacBook Pro. It was aluminum. It was awesome. It lasted 2.5 years. I sold it on Ebay and the next guy who got it actually sent me an email that he was so happy about the condition. After two and a half years of portable use, the thing only got one tiny scratch on the bottom.
I replaced the MacBook Pro with an HP HDX18T laptop because it was cheaper. Big mistake. You know what? It certainly IS cheaper. Everything is worse. Everything feels cheap.
The illuminated keyboard actually makes things harder to see; how did they pull that off? The entire body is warping anywhere there are hot spots. The bass/treble controls failed on day 4. The volume control failed right after the warranty expired.
They used the wrong trackpad part, so that the artwork didn't match (I have an 18" model and they used the 15" model's trackpad, which is the same size, but has different artwork on it). The trackpad is so smooth it's actually very high friction and grabby if your finger's skin has even the slightest moisture. Multi-finger gestures don't work for a damn. Oh, and Windows fails to recognize the fingerprint reader about 10% of the time on bootup.
When I went to add a second hard drive, I found out you have to buy an adapter. HP doesn't even accept standard 2.5" drives natively, you need to first mount the drive to a tray, then stick the tray in the laptop. And the tray is missing. And you can't buy it from HP; customer support says it's only included if I had bought two hard drives to begin with. So I had to find a tray on Ebay from some guy in Hong Kong who probably stole the parts from an HP factory and then sends it to me on the slow boat from China.
It came loaded with tons of crapware, bloatware, adware, and frankly a lot of stuff that is borderline malware. The HP updater, which is supposed to find updated drivers and software for my laptop, keeps insisting everything is up to date...yet when I go to the driver websites I find updated drivers.
It didn't come with the OS disks. That's right, HP saved 10 damn cents by not including the OS disks, which means I had to spend an hour burning the OS to DVD-Rs and label them with a sharpie. Oh, and the OS included with it? Vista. Do I need to say anything more?
Everything on the MacBook Pro worked, worked better, felt better, lasted the entire time I've had it, and apparently the next owner loves it too. It held an incredible amount of its value. I bought it for around a $1000 and sold it for around $650. My HP laptop is probably worthless, if I can even morally sell it, considering it has so many problems.
I will never, ever, buy another HP portable. Printer maybe, portable no.
So much hate..
I have a Windows 7 Phone, and I would never get an iPhone after using it. I have a feeling WebOS is the same. There's been so many advances since the iPad came out last year, and the iPhone in '06 (was it?), you guys need to wake up and smell the roses.
ActionableMango, does your rant about your HP laptop have anything to do with the HP Tablet at all? Seriously, if it broke after 4 days why did you keep it?
I have a Windows 7 Phone, and I would never get an iPhone after using it. I have a feeling WebOS is the same. There's been so many advances since the iPad came out last year, and the iPhone in '06 (was it?), you guys need to wake up and smell the roses.
ActionableMango, does your rant about your HP laptop have anything to do with the HP Tablet at all? Seriously, if it broke after 4 days why did you keep it?
lol Windows 7 phone. How can you possibly talk about advances and buy a windows phone?
Thanks for the mini review, I'll have to check it out. Don't feel bad about being flamed, some prefer to stick their heads in the sand instead of seeing what else is out there in the world. I think it's awesome when we get differing hardware and differing perspectives on our tech gadgets.