Just got 2.3 GHz 15 rmbp Haswell

[Sym0]

Starting off with GeekBench 3.

2.3 Ghz Haswell rMBP =>

Single-Core = 3077
Multi-Core = 11566

2.3 Ghz Ivy Bridge rMBP

Single-Core = 2824
Multi-Core = 10707


Haswell is (1 - 2824/3077) * 100 => 8.22 % faster single core
and
Haswell (1 - 10707/11566) * 100 => 7.43 % faster multi-core

So basically your new shiny 2.3 Ghz Haswell rMBP is less than 9% faster cpu wise than the 1+ year old 2.3 Ghz Ivy Bridge base rMBP.

SO how does this compare to the 2.7GHz 2013 Ivy Bridge?

 

[boykisslove]

I picked one up today, and it seems to have more battery life then advertised. I usually see it estimate about 7-8 hours on my old retina 15", this new 15" retina is estimating 10 hours right now.

What makes ur battery life on old retina 15" lasts 7-8 hours, i wonder how many apps u used to have ?? any designing software,...??

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SO how does this compare to the 2.7GHz 2013 Ivy Bridge?

the same question since u and me have the same rMBP
Anyway, hope to get more information from this comparison to make a decision, but i think replacing rMBP early 2013 by rMBP late 2013 is not needed, at least till now

 

[laurihoefs]

SO how does this compare to the 2.7GHz 2013 Ivy Bridge?

The OPs Cinebench result screenshots also feature what I think is the 2.6GHz Ivy Bridge, so that might give give us some clue:https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18211258/

 

[gigatexel]

Samsung or LG screen?

Ran the standard ioreg query on my new 2.3GHz/16G/512G/750m (Week 42, October):

ioreg -lw0 | grep "EDID" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

Got this:

Color LCD
LSN154YL01-A01
DLM339500STFF0QAH

Looks like its a Samsung panel.

 

[TranceMessiah]

Thanks for the detailed information OP!

I have a question about the lag. Does it lag when you resize windows? Could you please try resizing the App Store for example? Is it smooth like 60fps ?

On the previous gen rMBP there's so much lag...

 

[BASTI51]

Gaming with Iris pro
1) Drivers are bad nvidia cooperates with most of the publishers to increase the driver performance.
2) no real dedicated RAM 1gb shared DDR3 + 128mb shared edram against GDDR 5 RAM in the nvidia
3) lower overall chip performance
4) you can't overclock it. I can squeez +15-20% performance Out of my 650m
5) low bandwith between GPU and crystalwell

Overall the Iris pro is in most games 30% slower. Only in Metro its just 5% slower. But if you bump the resolution the Iris pro gets more and more lost. Overall the Iris pro is no bad graphicscard but its always slower than the 650m

Check this review out:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested/7

Totally wrong. With Intels Extreme Tuning Utility you can optimize the CPU for games to get 10-25% more performance. As shown in the video, he just reduced the CPU-Multiplier and voltages, disable turbo etc. without overclocking..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUfvDIP6XWw

So huge potential for non CPU-intensiv games.

 

[nill1234]

Maybe wrong in point overclocking thats it, the performance gap is still there. And im not sure if this will work in Bootcamp

 

[ianj1972]

just geekbenched mine....

Benchmark Summary
Integer Score 3458 15018
Floating Point Score 3497 16092
Memory Score 2888 3184

Geekbench Score 3359 13080

System Information
Operating System Mac OS X 10.9 (Build 13A3017)
Model MacBookPro11,3
Model ID MacBookPro11,3
Motherboard Apple Inc. Mac-2BD1B31983FE1663 MacBookPro11,3
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4850HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz @ 2.30 GHz
1 Processor, 4 Cores, 8 Threads
Processor ID GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 70 Stepping 1
L1 Instruction Cache 32.0 KB x 4
L1 Data Cache 32.0 KB x 4
L2 Cache 256 KB x 4
L3 Cache 6.00 MB
Memory 16.0 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
BIOS Apple Inc. MBP112.88Z.0138.B00.1310031144
Compiler Clang 5.0 (clang-500.2.75)

Integer Performance
AES
single-core 5584 |||||||||||
multi-core 10002 |||||||||||||||||||
Twofish
single-core 3119 ||||||
multi-core 17341 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
SHA1
single-core 3549 ||||||
multi-core 13739 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
SHA2
single-core 4029 |||||||
multi-core 14076 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
BZip2 Compress
single-core 2671 |||||
multi-core 13640 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
BZip2 Decompress
single-core 2750 |||||
multi-core 14645 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
JPEG Compress
single-core 3280 ||||||
multi-core 16331 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
JPEG Decompress
single-core 4663 |||||||||
multi-core 19429 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PNG Compress
single-core 2891 |||||
multi-core 16529 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PNG Decompress
single-core 3396 ||||||
multi-core 16702 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sobel
single-core 3822 |||||||
multi-core 16373 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lua
single-core 3932 |||||||
multi-core 14892 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dijkstra
single-core 2450 ||||
multi-core 13819 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Floating Point Performance
BlackScholes
single-core 4053 |||||||
multi-core 20298 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Mandelbrot
single-core 2918 |||||
multi-core 19193 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sharpen Filter
single-core 2950 |||||
multi-core 13698 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Blur Filter
single-core 2299 ||||
multi-core 12045 |||||||||||||||||||||||
SGEMM
single-core 4228 ||||||||
multi-core 16597 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
DGEMM
single-core 3704 |||||||
multi-core 16912 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
SFFT
single-core 3105 ||||||
multi-core 13011 |||||||||||||||||||||||||
DFFT
single-core 3185 ||||||
multi-core 13914 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
N-Body
single-core 4919 |||||||||
multi-core 20071 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ray Trace
single-core 4477 ||||||||
multi-core 17767 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Memory Performance
Stream Copy
single-core 3629 |||||||
multi-core 3813 |||||||
Stream Scale
single-core 2995 |||||
multi-core 3000 |||||
Stream Add
single-core 2508 ||||
multi-core 2959 |||||
Stream Triad
single-core 2555 |||||
multi-core 3040 |||||

 

[prestong]

What makes ur battery life on old retina 15" lasts 7-8 hours, i wonder how many apps u used to have ?? any designing software,...??

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the same question since u and me have the same rMBP
Anyway, hope to get more information from this comparison to make a decision, but i think replacing rMBP early 2013 by rMBP late 2013 is not needed, at least till now

Definitely not using any design software to get that battery life. Like i said programming/skype/web/terminal/editors is all i mostly have open. Right now it says I have 10 hours 22 minutes left, been using it for about 30 minutes since I pulled it off the charger. Very pleased so far, here is screenshot..

 

[ppone]

Updated Cinebench with just Iris Pro

Cpu does better, but the OpenGL is disappointment, not even on par with the 2.3 Ivy Bridge.

 

[ppone]

Have the same exact panel. If that is the Samsung, that is what I have also.

Ran the standard ioreg query on my new 2.3GHz/16G/512G/750m (Week 42, October):

ioreg -lw0 | grep "EDID" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

Got this:

Color LCD
LSN154YL01-A01
DLM339500STFF0QAH

Looks like its a Samsung panel.

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64-bit? I did mine on 32-bit.

just geekbenched mine....

Benchmark Summary
Integer Score 3458 15018
Floating Point Score 3497 16092
Memory Score 2888 3184

Geekbench Score 3359 13080

System Information
Operating System Mac OS X 10.9 (Build 13A3017)
Model MacBookPro11,3
Model ID MacBookPro11,3
Motherboard Apple Inc. Mac-2BD1B31983FE1663 MacBookPro11,3
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4850HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz @ 2.30 GHz
1 Processor, 4 Cores, 8 Threads
Processor ID GenuineIntel Family 6 Model 70 Stepping 1
L1 Instruction Cache 32.0 KB x 4
L1 Data Cache 32.0 KB x 4
L2 Cache 256 KB x 4
L3 Cache 6.00 MB
Memory 16.0 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
BIOS Apple Inc. MBP112.88Z.0138.B00.1310031144
Compiler Clang 5.0 (clang-500.2.75)

Integer Performance
AES
single-core 5584 |||||||||||
multi-core 10002 |||||||||||||||||||
Twofish
single-core 3119 ||||||
multi-core 17341 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
SHA1
single-core 3549 ||||||
multi-core 13739 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
SHA2
single-core 4029 |||||||
multi-core 14076 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
BZip2 Compress
single-core 2671 |||||
multi-core 13640 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
BZip2 Decompress
single-core 2750 |||||
multi-core 14645 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
JPEG Compress
single-core 3280 ||||||
multi-core 16331 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
JPEG Decompress
single-core 4663 |||||||||
multi-core 19429 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PNG Compress
single-core 2891 |||||
multi-core 16529 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
PNG Decompress
single-core 3396 ||||||
multi-core 16702 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sobel
single-core 3822 |||||||
multi-core 16373 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lua
single-core 3932 |||||||
multi-core 14892 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dijkstra
single-core 2450 ||||
multi-core 13819 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Floating Point Performance
BlackScholes
single-core 4053 |||||||
multi-core 20298 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Mandelbrot
single-core 2918 |||||
multi-core 19193 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Sharpen Filter
single-core 2950 |||||
multi-core 13698 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Blur Filter
single-core 2299 ||||
multi-core 12045 |||||||||||||||||||||||
SGEMM
single-core 4228 ||||||||
multi-core 16597 ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
DGEMM
single-core 3704 |||||||
multi-core 16912 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
SFFT
single-core 3105 ||||||
multi-core 13011 |||||||||||||||||||||||||
DFFT
single-core 3185 ||||||
multi-core 13914 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
N-Body
single-core 4919 |||||||||
multi-core 20071 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ray Trace
single-core 4477 ||||||||
multi-core 17767 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Memory Performance
Stream Copy
single-core 3629 |||||||
multi-core 3813 |||||||
Stream Scale
single-core 2995 |||||
multi-core 3000 |||||
Stream Add
single-core 2508 ||||
multi-core 2959 |||||
Stream Triad
single-core 2555 |||||
multi-core 3040 |||||

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According to LuxMark

The 750m is clocked at 925 MHz with 2GB global memory

and

Iris Pro is at 1200 MHz with 1 GB global memory

 

[chrizel]

Updated Cinebench with just Iris Pro

Cpu does better, but the OpenGL is disappointment, not even on par with the 2.3 Ivy Bridge.

Thank you for your work, but I think you attached the wrong Cinebench screenshot, because this is identical to the 750m results.

 

[ppone]

Corrected, Thanks

Thank you for your work, but I think you attached the wrong Cinebench screenshot, because this is identical to the 750m results.

 

[salmankhan]

Ran the standard ioreg query on my new 2.3GHz/16G/512G/750m (Week 42, October):

ioreg -lw0 | grep "EDID" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

Got this:

Color LCD
LSN154YL01-A01
DLM339500STFF0QAH

Looks like its a Samsung panel.

Yup samsung it is.

 

[Larrabee213]

So how does the Iris Pro fare? Will it do well with some Adobe Premiere editing and encoding?

 

[ppone]

OpenCL LuxMark v2.1beta2, scene: Sala (medium benchmark)

This is where Iris Pro shines. It kills the Intel HD 4000, 650m, 750m.

The 650m and 750m has the basically the same performance with the 750m slightly better.

There is a vast difference in OpenCL between HD 4000 and Iris Pro. Also Iris Pro is much better at OpenGL than HD 4000.

 

[Larrabee213]

Interesting, I think Adobe is optimizing Premiere for the OpenCL

 

[ppone]

I gotta go again, but I think.

Haswell rMBP is not for me. I wait to return it, I will till next week to do so.

Gaming wise it slightly better.

For OpenCL it is majorly better.

Everyday use should be on par.

So if your looking for a new laptop and don't have the Ivy Bridge rMBP I would.

1.) If your not into games at all, or apps that heavily use OpenGL, get the base Haswell (with a memory upgrade)

2.) If your into gaming and need tons of OpenGL performance, based on your budget I would get either a refurbished Ivy Bridge or if you can afford it, Haswell 2.3 rMBP. Choosing between Ivy bridge and Haswell is about performance/price, I think Ivy Bridge beats Haswell there, but if money is no object go for the Haswell.


If you already own a rMBP, you don't need to have envy. It seems Apple Laptops have 3 year cycles before you truly need to upgrade.

The only case I would get Haswell rMBP if already have a Ivy Bridge rmbp is if you truly depend on OpenCL.

Alright guys, feel free to post your own reviews. I look forward to reading others. I might update this thread next week, if my opinions change.

Notes: Please upgrade to Mavericks if you have a Ivy Bridge rMBP, it fixes most of the lag issues.

 

[aixki]

Thank you ppone for your review, it's highly appreciated.

I plan to buy the high-end rMBP 15" for coding, surfing and photoshop/lightoom. I never play games neither 3D editing. Do you think I should go for the base model upgraded to 16 GB + 512 SSD + faster i7 ?

By the way, I plan to connect my rMBP on my 27" extenal monitor, so maybe a dedicated gpu is highly recommended in that case...

Thanks in advance for your answer

 

[jomirrivera]

I gotta go again, but I think.

Haswell rMBP is not for me. I wait to return it, I will till next week to do so.

Gaming wise it slightly better.

For OpenCL it is majorly better.

Everyday use should be on par.

So if your looking for a new laptop and don't have the Ivy Bridge rMBP I would.

1.) If your not into games at all, or apps that heavily use OpenGL, get the base Haswell (with a memory upgrade)

2.) If your into gaming and need tons of OpenGL performance, based on your budget I would get either a refurbished Ivy Bridge or if you can afford it, Haswell 2.3 rMBP. Choosing between Ivy bridge and Haswell is about performance/price, I think Ivy Bridge beats Haswell there, but if money is no object go for the Haswell.


If you already own a rMBP, you don't need to have envy. It seems Apple Laptops have 3 year cycles before you truly need to upgrade.

The only case I would get rMBP if you truly depend on OpenCL.

Alright guys, feel free to post your own reviews. I look forward to reading others. I might update this thread next week, if my opinions change.

Notes: Please upgrade to Mavericks if you have a Ivy Bridge rMBP, it fixes most of the lag issues.

Which apps are openGL heavy?

Can you give me some examples?

 

[ano0oj]

Is there a notable difference between the 2.0 and 2.3 i7?

 

[Larrabee213]

How was the heat while under stress? the 2012 rMPB was SUPER HOT under it and chugged when I did video compression.

 

[JD92]

Ran the standard ioreg query on my new 2.3GHz/16G/512G/750m (Week 42, October):

ioreg -lw0 | grep "EDID" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

Got this:

Color LCD
LSN154YL01-A01
DLM339500STFF0QAH

Looks like its a Samsung panel.

Thanks for that - it looks like they may be using a revised Samsung panel. In my 2012 Retina MacBook Pro the screen model is LSN154YL01001, although the only difference is the final 001 is replaced with A01 which perhaps wouldn't suggest a large change.

My 2.3GHz model is arriving today, I'll post first impressions when I get it!

 

[Gunlance]

Thank you ppone for your review, it's highly appreciated.

I plan to buy the high-end rMBP 15" for coding, surfing and photoshop/lightoom. I never play games neither 3D editing. Do you think I should go for the base model upgraded to 16 GB + 512 SSD + faster i7 ?

By the way, I plan to connect my rMBP on my 27" extenal monitor, so maybe a dedicated gpu is highly recommended in that case...

Thanks in advance for your answer

The price of this configuration is 100 bucks short of getting the high end(at least int he US). At that point you might as well just get the high end model.

 

[aixki]

The price of this configuration is 100 bucks short of getting the high end(at least int he US). At that point you might as well just get the high end model.

The thing is that I might get annoyed by the heat/noise/power consumption created by dedicated gpu. If I could keep me from these drawbacks, I would not hesitate, especially for a 2500$ laptops !