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Just purchased an Envy to compare
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Wow the HP Envy looks like a rip-off of the macbook pro.....
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Yup and never buy rip offs/copies of anything ... if HP can't innovate on their own by now they're not worth much .... sorry to say it now but go read some real end user reviews on the Envy, it's not great, but hey if you don't like it you can always return it.
Maybe install Windows on your wife's mac she can work in that and at least have the option of playing around with OSX if she wants too.
By the way biggest complaints about the Envy are heat, fan noise, build quality, horrible screen-compared to Mac screens ...
HTH.
Guys, stop it, yeah the Envy looks similar with the MacBook Pro, but isn't that a good thing? I mean, it would be my first choice if i would ever get a PC, It looks nice and sleek and it's pretty powerful, you are basically hating a computer for how it looks, I understand you're saying that because it looks like a MBP but i think It's a nice computer if you want a PC
And before you think i am a Microsoft fanboy trolling around, -I am getting a MBP as soon as the new ones come out
And before you think i am a Microsoft fanboy trolling around, -I am getting a MBP as soon as the new ones come out
Awesome specs, but mac users are used to this by now as our machines are usually lower specced that equally priced PCs. Hopefully we get the Envy specs in the new MBP updates though 
Unfortunately I wouldn't touch that thing for half the price. We had a HP laptop here before and it didn't last 6 months. The build quality was pretty poor, heat wasn't such an issue, but the noise that thing made was ridiculous. Haven't seen an Envy up close yet so maybe things have changed with HP over the past 7 or 8 years which is quite likely.
Unfortunately I wouldn't touch that thing for half the price. We had a HP laptop here before and it didn't last 6 months. The build quality was pretty poor, heat wasn't such an issue, but the noise that thing made was ridiculous. Haven't seen an Envy up close yet so maybe things have changed with HP over the past 7 or 8 years which is quite likely.
hate to burst your bubble, but Voodoo was making "mbp-like" notebooks before Apple ever was, well before HP acquired them, and well before Apple's MBP's were aluminum. So while I prefer the MBP, you should know there actually isn't a whole lot of innovation on Apple's part except their ability to get people to pay what they're paying for increasingly obsolete hardware.
And before you say it...Sony started the chicklet keyboard, not Apple.
You're right. When the unibody MacBook Pro came out it was criticised for looking like a HP.
Yet somehow they are the number one manufacturer of computers...oh in the WORLD. Yeah that is a fact, not a rumor look it up they must be doing some things right to wear that crown. Just because 2 of you had bad experiences with some old Pavillion does not make them the worst company OMG IN THE WORLD EVER! I would buy any HP over a Sony or a Dell any given day if my hands and wallet were tied down from buying an
(thankfully not the case). Now Lenovo I do have to say I respect.Two parting observations:
1) I spent about half an hour on the Envy at our local BB and it indeed feels very cheap and flimsy imho. But damn is it fast.
2) Sony sure makes some nice alarm clock radios!
Funny. I thought HP laptops always had the standard black screen, silver base and black keys since a long time ago. Heck, I even remember how there were a ton of people from these forums complaining about how the MBPs looked so similar to HP notebooks when the Unibody MBPs were first released.
No I'd get a Thinkpad; if you going to get a Windows machine, might as well get a computer that's both more durable and utilitarian than a Mac.
Why go for a compromise?
The ATI 5830 kicks the crap out of the Nvidia 330M though. Not to mention, the Sony Vaio F weighs about 3.1kg, while the Envy is only 2.35kg, slightly lighter than a MBP.
Wow! Good Choice, just imagine yourself going into a Cupertino Starbucks, you pull out your envy and everybody looks at you, after that you turn it on and people throw hot coffee at you and you just have to leave, I vote for the Thinkpad too!
You're right. When the unibody MacBook Pro came out it was criticised for looking like a HP.
LOL
GPU means not much if you're not really gaming on it.
Oh, and I think I can handle the extra 7.5/10th's of a kg.
its really nice to see pc makers start making nicely designed laptops: competition is a very good thing.
Man, If you were going to spend that kind of money on a pc, you should have held out for the new Z with backlit keyboard and all.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/sony-vaio-z-series-vpcz114gx-s-review/
with backlit keyboard and all.http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/sony-vaio-z-series-vpcz114gx-s-review/
"If you can't innovate, you imitate. But the imitation is never as good as the original."
-Bertrand Serlet
-Bertrand Serlet
$1799 will get you a MBP with... a 2.53GHz C2D, 4GB/250GB 5.4k and a crappy 9400M. $2199 will get you an Envy with... a Intel Core i7 720qm, 4GB/500GB 7.2k and a (quite powerful) ATI Radeon 5830.
Also are you saying that video editing is Mac only?
Good luck playing Crysis on that 9400M on your 1799 MBP...
So you're right. it is a no-brainer. I'd (and most others) would take the Envy... unless you're saying you'd take the Pro? ooooh fanboyism to the max
Don't have to worry, the Mac fanboy Patrol will be here in a second.
Nice computer here though with nice specs. I'd like it if it was a bit cheaper though if you ask me.
$1799 will get you a MBP with... a 2.53GHz C2D, 4GB/250GB 5.4k and a crappy 9400M. $2199 will get you an Envy with... a Intel Core i7 720qm, 4GB/500GB 7.2k and a (quite powerful) ATI Radeon 5830.
Also are you saying that video editing is Mac only?
Good luck playing Crysis on that 9400M on your 1799 MBP...
So you're right. it is a no-brainer. I'd (and most others) would take the Envy... unless you're saying you'd take the Pro? ooooh fanboyism to the max
actually, I was meaning the current 2.8 Core 2 with the 9600GT 512 DDR3.
It's 1999 in the refurb store right now, but it's bound to go down quite a bit once the new models are released. Sure I could get an HP Envy for the same price (they are a lot more expensive in canada, far more expensive when compared to American/ Canadian pricing on the MBP)
Of course I would buy the 2.8 with the 9600Gt over a 15" Envy that retails for about 2000...
I won't be able to play crysis as good, but most other games will run mostly the the same. PLUS, if I want to sell it in a year or 2 I will likely get around 1000-1300, where as the Envy would be lucky to fetch $700!
sure maybe my decisions are a bit based on fanboyism, but it's mostly because i want to use OSX as my main OS, plus have the assurance that my computer will live up to it's battery life estimates... and have real resale value.