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„Just some beta bashing“

Rogifan said:
I’m on the iOS 18 public beta and if I go to settings right now it offers me the iOS 26 developer beta. How could Apple not be aware that this was being offered?

They need to make it not so easy to install the developer beta. Way too many - who have no business doing so - are installing it. I don’t care if some of these are tech savvy who know the risks blah blah blah. Threads is full of posts dunking on a dev 1 beta as if it’s what’s going to ship in September. Apple needs to make it harder to get the dev betas.
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People will have opinions they want to share on new things even if they themselves can’t access those things.
Yes, there would be less screenshots floating around, but the main problem really is that people don’t like what they see, be it on their or on someone else’s device.
If your biggest new feature is a redesign, you have to make sure that the first screenshots available convey the good, not the bad, about that redesign.
As pointed out before, it appears Apple intends to change the style until September, but why didn’t they do it before allowing people outside of Apple to get their hands on the unfinished design and have negative first impressions on something that won’t even ship?
That’s the main problem, not some randos running a developer beta. No body complains about the underlying technology.
 
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Parowdy said:
I wanted to share my opinion. I didn’t expect the thread to go this far. Like any other thread you have the choice to read, engage, or ignore. Didn’t mean to stir the pot.
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Stir away. Sick of people saying we are not allowed to have dissenting opinions or shouldn't be allowed to be beta testers if we don't love all things Apple does. If you are unhappy, say so. No sense in shaming you.
 
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CopyChief said:
If I recall, even when it was more difficult to install developer betas with profiles and such, people still found a way, and so many people who had "no businesses doing so" installed unstable betas and then came to forums or Twitter to dunk on Apple's "lack of attention to detail." Making it harder won't deter a lot of people.

That said the percentage of people running the beta compared to the install base is negligible. The unsatisfied voices are so loud here, as with any issue projected online.
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At least don’t offer it as an OTA update directly from settings.
 
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Parowdy said:
People will have opinions they want to share on new things even if they themselves can’t access those things.
Yes, there would be less screenshots floating around, but the main problem really is that people don’t like what they see, be it on their or on someone else’s device.
If your biggest new feature is a redesign, you have to make sure that the first screenshots available convey the good, not the bad, about that redesign.
As pointed out before, it appears Apple intends to change the style until September, but why didn’t they do it before allowing people outside of Apple to get their hands on the unfinished design and have negative first impressions on something that won’t even ship?
That’s the main problem, not some randos running a developer beta. No body complains about the underlying technology.
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Maybe because there was a deadline and something had to ship?
 
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Parowdy said:
I wanted to share my opinion. I didn’t expect the thread to go this far. Like any other thread you have the choice to read, engage, or ignore. Didn’t mean to stir the pot.
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Great. Share your opinion with Apple. Become an actual beta tester who reports issues, opinions and bugs, so you can make a difference in the end product. Installing a Dev 1 beta and then just complaining about it in an online forum as being an "abomination" is self-serving and nothing more.
 
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Jumpthesnark said:
Great. Share your opinion with Apple. Become an actual beta tester who reports issues, opinions and bugs, so you can make a difference in the end product. Installing a Dev 1 beta and then just complaining about it in an online forum as being an "abomination" is self-serving and nothing more.
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I have filed hundreds of feedback reports for 3 platforms. Admittedly, none for this beta. I think Apple gets the message, even if it doesn’t come from me.
 
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Rogifan said:
At least don’t offer it as an OTA update directly from settings.
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It‘s only offered if you managed to sign up for a free Apple developer account. This flags you automatically as having an IQ of 70+, which is the internal threshold for installing developer betas at Apple.

Public betas sit at an average IQ classification of 60+, it‘s why they come later and with delays to new dev beta releases (seeing as you need an IQ of 68+ to follow downgrade guides, they better make sure that dev betas don‘t have game breaking bugs that can accidentally leak to the simpletons on the public betas).

What else can they realistically do to weed out the borderline low-IQ folk? I think it‘s a sound method of releasing preview builds.

//edit: you can already post on here with an IQ of 55, it‘s why we get topics like I downgrade to 18 a lot.
 
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Rogifan said:
You shouldn’t need to mess with accessibility settings because of a redesign. When people say turn on reduced transparency what they’re really saying is Apple needs to fix the clear glass look. Hopefully we will see improvements in future betas.
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People who need accessibility have to do stuff like this ALL. THE. TIME. Stop acting like going into a menu is burdensome. I do agree they should make it more legible but it’ll get there.
 
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Devyn89 said:
People who need accessibility have to do stuff like this ALL. THE. TIME. Stop acting like going into a menu is burdensome. I do agree they should make it more legible but it’ll get there.
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Sure but I don’t currently have to do anything with accessibility settings. Updating to a new OS shouldn’t make me have to. I don’t believe Apple intended for it to ship like this. My question is how did this even make it to the first beta? Were they that behind/in a rush to meet the beta 1 deadline?
 
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Rogifan said:
Sure but I don’t currently have to do anything with accessibility settings. Updating to a new OS shouldn’t make me have to. I don’t believe Apple intended for it to ship like this. My question is how did this even make it to the first beta? Were they that behind/in a rush to meet the beta 1 deadline?
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what you believe and what is fact are likely very different. apple has the option to hold back a release if it's not ready. they obviously thought it was... and i agree.

a few days in, and am happy with ios 26; i like the aesthetic, and all my apps work. sure, there are quirks, but it's DP beta 1; considering that fact, it's pretty great.
 
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hasanahmad said:
you can see it in this video after 6 minute mark: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/219

develop focused video giving developers overview of final design

Missing in Dev Beta 1
-lower refraction of text
- button legibility on variable backgrounds
- No Color Bleeding in final design
- Button label changes color based on background
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thanks very much for posting that link.
watched and enjoyed every second of it.
 
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fisherking said:
what you believe and what is fact are likely very different. apple has the option to hold back a release if it's not ready. they obviously thought it was... and i agree.

a few days in, and am happy with ios 26; i like the aesthetic, and all my apps work. sure, there are quirks, but it's DP beta 1; considering that fact, it's pretty great.
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I think they have a couple hard deadlines: WWDC and when the iPhone ships. Just imagine what the chatter would be if there was no dev beta because it wasn’t ready.
 
Rogifan said:
I think they have a couple hard deadlines: WWDC and when the iPhone ships. Just imagine what the chatter would be if there was no dev beta because it wasn’t ready.
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sure, but there's no evidence that they weren't ready; this thread if full of guesses, speculation, assumptions (to be fair, i'm doing that as well 🤣)
 
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For many folks there is a difference between disliking a beta and disliking the final release. All we know about the final release is what Apple showed us. I can see people getting excited by that. For many it’s a yearly event. Being upset over the first beta seems like shooting fish in a barrel. I wouldn’t judge the final release based on your initial impressions.
 
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it's logical to expect tweaks, fixes, minor changes. but this is the 'vibe' apple has created for ios 26. my observation: we'll adapt, life will go on. then, at some point, apple will change it all up again, and the ppl who were upset right now will be angry to see change... again. ad infinitum 🤣
 
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Rogifan said:
I’m on the iOS 18 public beta and if I go to settings right now it offers me the iOS 26 developer beta. How could Apple not be aware that this was being offered?

They need to make it not so easy to install the developer beta. Way too many - who have no business doing so - are installing it. I don’t care if some of these are tech savvy who know the risks blah blah blah. Threads is full of posts dunking on a dev 1 beta as if it’s what’s going to ship in September. Apple needs to make it harder to get the dev betas.
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I have registered online, for the beta program, and I’d always assumed, that it would only be for public betas, but developer builds become available.
I will download a RC, because I have some IT smarts, and often am used by friends, family, and peers for advice.
I am your ‘very’ average user, and will often download a MacOS a month or so out, just to familiarise, and test the OS for my use case.
 
I just hope on iPad they implement a way to open safari and stuff while in a game (like the slide over use to allow me to look things up) while staying in game, now it’s … messy
 
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Rayansb said:
It really is hideous. I hope they give us the option to opt out of this ugliness.
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I’m still wondering how battery life will be on older iPhones, like the 11 series. And how the energy impact will be in low power mode.
I have a shortcut for an „ultra low power mode“ and I’m looking forward to a shortcut action that disables the liquid glass entirely.
There is an option for a smart low power mode, but I don’t know if it’s available for all models.
 
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