„Just some beta bashing“

[HouseLannister]

I don't know why you and others bother to come into macrumors, or buy apple products, when you seem to have nothing but negativity towards them, and the company that makes them.

Because we want them to do better. If you are happy, why come to this forum to just get all this negativity? Go outside. Touch some grass. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[Madonepro]

Ignorance is bliss.

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tis folly to be wise​

 

[Parowdy]

You don't get it do you? It's not that I'm not listening to those that don't like it, because those on here, who state a dislike, have admitted, in the main, that they are not developers. As far as I am concerned, their opinions are not worth listening to, Yet!

You don’t get it either, do you? My main complaint is that this design seems good enough for Apple to showcase to the world, despite it having obvious drawbacks that were even present in their own keynote.
How long do you think Apple worked on this?
How reluctant do you think they are going to be to pedal back or dramatically change some, if not most, of those design decisions within the next 3 (or 2) months.
The past has shown that Apple is willing to listen to some feedback, but they haven’t been criticized about this many things in a long time. They took a whole year to slightly revert their controversial Photos changes. They had all the time and resources they needed to learn from their mistakes AND deliver on first try.
Admittedly, a complete redesign is a massive undertaking that is bound to create at least some pushback. But even Apple is probably surprised how much there is.
They shouldn’t need to wait for third party developer feedback on their system UI, it should be a mostly done deal right out of the gate so said developers can work out how their apps look, not the systems they run on…
Also, devs are only devs, doesn’t matter if they are first of third party. How usable a system or an app is only really becomes obvious when the public gets their hands on it.
If it was up to you, Apple would spent a month listening to devs that apparently are supposed to do the work their own devs should have done, before starting to listen to the public who is the actual important demographic.
Where does any of this make sense?

 

[turbineseaplane]

This is so awful

 

[fisherking]

This is so awful

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i dunno, i think i've seen worse wallpapers 🤔

 

[tomtattoo]

You don’t get it either, do you? My main complaint is that this design seems good enough for Apple to showcase to the world, despite it having obvious drawbacks that were even present in their own keynote.
How long do you think Apple worked on this?
How reluctant do you think they are going to be to pedal back or dramatically change some, if not most, of those design decisions within the next 3 (or 2) months.
The past has shown that Apple is willing to listen to some feedback, but they haven’t been criticized about this many things in a long time. They took a whole year to slightly revert their controversial Photos changes. They had all the time and resources they needed to learn from their mistakes AND deliver on first try.
Admittedly, a complete redesign is a massive undertaking that is bound to create at least some pushback. But even Apple is probably surprised how much there is.
They shouldn’t need to wait for third party developer feedback on their system UI, it should be a mostly done deal right out of the gate so said developers can work out how their apps look, not the systems they run on…
Also, devs are only devs, doesn’t matter if they are first of third party. How usable a system or an app is only really becomes obvious when the public gets their hands on it.
If it was up to you, Apple would spent a month listening to devs that apparently are supposed to do the work their own devs should have done, before starting to listen to the public who is the actual important demographic.
Where does any of this make sense?

Well said! Bravo!