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And who is Apple's target audience anyway? Android users? What would attract them to the 5c?

Not the 4 inch screen. Not the high price....
 
Just touched a 5C. This should have been the more expensive model imho.

And who is Apple's target audience anyway? Android users? What would attract them to the 5c?

Not the 4 inch screen. Not the high price....


The color. We can have a powerful Android that'll be amazing. Yet, in the seas of dull hue phones, this one can catch eyes. I'm a Note III user and I'm also happily with my 5c too.

It was just enough to make me try my first iPhone. I like it for what I use it for.
 
Of course, the 5c should be the flagship. It not only looks better, but it feels vastly superior to the lightweight, junky-feeling 5s.

Want the 5s to feel like a premium phone? Add another ounce to it doesn't feel like it just came out of the bottom of a cereal box.
 
that's only due to it being smaller so it's harder to flex and because there is no battery, sim, and/or micro sd cover.

From the manufacturing video, I'd say it's the metal frame/antenna array and metal backplate placed into the plastic that gives it that rigidity.
 
Glass scratches, cracks and can become discolored. No matter the material, it'll still be obvious if it's abused right?

Plastic scratches easier than glass.

Plastic will overtime discolor, plastic not so much.

I could send you to windows, one made of plastic and the other glass.

Both are the same age, however the plastic one looks much much worse than the glass one.

Need more evidence? Look at headlight lenses on automobiles .... compare a 15 year old glass lens to a plastic lens. ;)
 
Plastic scratches easier than glass.

Plastic will overtime discolor, plastic not so much.

I could send you to windows, one made of plastic and the other glass.

Both are the same age, however the plastic one looks much much worse than the glass one.

Need more evidence? Look at headlight lenses on automobiles .... compare a 15 year old glass lens to a plastic lens. ;)

What I meant was that no matter the material, it can show wear. It may take longer to show but it will show eventually.

That being said, I do agree that the 5c will possibly need more protection. I am content with the quality though.
 
Plastic scratches easier than glass.

Plastic will overtime discolor, plastic not so much.

I could send you to windows, one made of plastic and the other glass.

Both are the same age, however the plastic one looks much much worse than the glass one.

Need more evidence? Look at headlight lenses on automobiles .... compare a 15 year old glass lens to a plastic lens. ;)

I think nobody is going to disagree with you that glass retains its look way better than any other material and looks more premium. Until someone can make glass durable in terms of breakage, light weight and can be molded to any shape, I think plastic is still the best alternative.
 
Tried the 5c in the store, don't like it. The 5S is a superior phone in every single way. Buying a 5c for $549 instead of a 5s for $649 is about as brainless as buying an iPad 2 for $399 instead of an iPad Air for $499. Except the iPad example is even worse, the 5c is using year old tech, the iPad 2 is using much older tech.
 
Tried the 5c in the store, don't like it. The 5S is a superior phone in every single way. Buying a 5c for $549 instead of a 5s for $649 is about as brainless as buying an iPad 2 for $399 instead of an iPad Air for $499. Except the iPad example is even worse, the 5c is using year old tech, the iPad 2 is using much older tech.

Yeah? So people who buy vehicles that have older but dependable power train combinations would be considered "Brainless" too? If that's the logic then why even bother giving people choices?

That's right. That's why I never used to like Apple products. Variety is the spice of life. The term "Superior" is easily an overused term that tries to kill that variety.

If me choosing to pick a slightly older iPhone in favor of color appears idiotic, so be it. I mod the latest Android phones for fun. I most certainly didn't need a gimmicky ancient finger print scanner, a 64-bit processor that no apps make use of, and a slight camera improvement. I just enjoy smiling at that pretty blue color each time I see it.

And I don't go into the 5s threads to bash their choice either. So live and let live. In the Android world there is a ton of variety and everyone has their own reason for their choices. I think that accepting frame of mind should be applied here. Right?
 
Yeah? So people who buy vehicles that have older but dependable power train combinations would be considered "Brainless" too? If that's the logic then why even bother giving people choices?

That's right. That's why I never used to like Apple products. Variety is the spice of life. The term "Superior" is easily an overused term that tries to kill that variety.

If me choosing to pick a slightly older iPhone in favor of color appears idiotic, so be it. I mod the latest Android phones for fun. I most certainly didn't need a gimmicky ancient finger print scanner, a 64-bit processor that no apps make use of, and a slight camera improvement. I just enjoy smiling at that pretty blue color each time I see it.

And I don't go into the 5s threads to bash their choice either. So live and let live. In the Android world there is a ton of variety and everyone has their own reason for their choices. I think that accepting frame of mind should be applied here. Right?
I wouldn't bash it if this thread didn't claim the 5C should be more expensive, when clearly it's the cheaper phone. You can call the fingerprint scanner "ancient" and "gimmicky", but it's actually an incredible security feature that I guarantee you a majority of 5S customers use, therefore not a gimmick. You can call 64bit useless, but it's future proofing the phone. Guess which phone will be supported longer? Definitely not the 5C, because it has the same exact technology as an iPhone 5 repackaged into a cheap plastic case. To answer your original question, no. It wouldn't be stupid to buy the car with the older but reliable power train, as long as the price difference between that car and a new car is significant. If it costs $100 less, then yeah you just made a really stupid choice. I'm all for choice, but it should be priced accordingly.
 
I wouldn't bash it if this thread didn't claim the 5C should be more expensive, when clearly it's the cheaper phone. You can call the fingerprint scanner "ancient" and "gimmicky", but it's actually an incredible security feature that I guarantee you a majority of 5S customers use, therefore not a gimmick. You can call 64bit useless, but it's future proofing the phone. Guess which phone will be supported longer? Definitely not the 5C, because it has the same exact technology as an iPhone 5 repackaged into a cheap plastic case. To answer your original question, no. It wouldn't be stupid to buy the car with the older but reliable power train, as long as the price difference between that car and a new car is significant. If it costs $100 less, then yeah you just made a really stupid choice. I'm all for choice, but it should be priced accordingly.

You're not going to get a phone with technology comparable to the iPhone 5s for the price of an iPhone 4s. No.

The iPhone 5c is priced just right.

The A6 processor is still the standard. People are calling the A6 old tech when apps haven't even been optimized for it yet.
 
You're not going to get a phone with technology comparable to the iPhone 5s for the price of an iPhone 4s. No.

The iPhone 5c is priced just right.

The difference in technology between the 5c and 5s is worth more than $100. As for the 4S, Apple should be ashamed to even still be selling it, never mind the price they're charging for it. It's completely outdated. I feel the same way about the iPad 2. Anyone who chooses to buy very expensive outdated products is making a poor decision IMHO, that's why I don't do that. If you chose to do it, fine for you, but don't get defensive about it and expect the macrumors forums to help justify your poor choice.

You know, I can understand if iPhones were generally cheaper devices and the 5C cost $350 and the 5S cost $450, I can see that difference being a big deal to some people. But the more expensive the product gets, the less $100 difference matters. There is not much difference between $549 and $649 compared to how much more you get for the money.

For the record, I have an iPhone 5 and I'm not biased at all. I'm just calling it as I see it.
 
The difference in technology between the 5c and 5s is worth more than $100. As for the 4S, Apple should be ashamed to even still be selling it, never mind the price they're charging for it. It's completely outdated. I feel the same way about the iPad 2. Anyone who chooses to buy very expensive outdated products is making a poor decision IMHO, that's why I don't do that. If you chose to do it, fine for you, but don't get defensive about it and expect the macrumors forums to help justify your poor choice.

You know, I can understand if iPhones were generally cheaper devices and the 5C cost $350 and the 5S cost $450, I can see that difference being a big deal to some people. But the more expensive the product gets, the less $100 difference matters. There is not much difference between $549 and $649 compared to how much more you get for the money.

I have both the 5S and the 5C firstly. Second, I think you should know the 5C carries a high resale value on Craigslist. $500 for a 16GB.

I also think people really go over the top when they talk about the newer phones.

If people are going by what people say on here than they will be disappointed because the A7 is not a noticeable change from the A6.

And also. You don't really get that the 4S is sticking around because it sells. And so many people have one.

Why try to force everyone to get the 5S? Some people didn't want that one.
 
If people are going by what people say on here than they will be disappointed because the A7 is not a noticeable change from the A6.

It will have a longer usage life before becoming "obsolete". For a phone in the $600-$700 range, that's kind of important.
 
It will have a longer usage life before becoming "obsolete". For a phone in the $600-$700 range, that's kind of important.
Apple can make a phone obsolete at any time. iPad 3 and iPhone 5 customers know this.
 
Not really. Apple can make a phone obsolete at any time by discontinuing it. What if they discontinue the iPhone 5s in a couple months?

I wouldn't put Apple past it.

By obsolete I don't mean discontinued, I mean no longer supported by a new OS and new software features. What happens when they do a software update to open up the API's to allow you to replace all passwords on your iPhone with the fingerprint sensor. Guarantee you it's coming in iOS 8 and will make the fingerprint sensor a million times more useful than it is now. Guess what? That 5c isn't going to feel so modern anymore, it's going to feel like an iPhone 5 from 2012. Any way you want to slice it and justify it, that's the reality of it. And all over a measly $100, it's just a terrible choice.

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Apple can make a phone obsolete at any time. iPad 3 and iPhone 5 customers know this.

You mistake the term obsolete with a new version coming out, two very different things. Also, by your definition, how is the iPhone 5 obsolete? It had a full year run before a new version being released, just like the 5S will. When the iPhone 6 comes out, the 5C will only be a year old and two generations out of date.
 
By obsolete I don't mean discontinued, I mean no longer supported by a new OS and new software features. What happens when they do a software update to open up the API's to allow you to replace all passwords on your iPhone with the fingerprint sensor. Guarantee you it's coming in iOS 8 and will make the fingerprint sensor a million times more useful than it is now. Guess what? That 5c isn't going to feel so modern anymore, it's going to feel like an iPhone 5 from 2012. Any way you want to slice it and justify it, that's the reality of it. And all over a measly $100, it's just a terrible choice.

So what. That fingerprint sensor is just another one of those shoehorned technologies that people don't really need.

No one can press your hand to your phone to unlock it if you have the good old fashioned pass code.

And it also does not save time either.
 
After several months with the yellow 5c, people continue to ask me if I have "the new iPhone" and "how does the fingerprint sensor work" while saying "your phone looks really cool" or "you have a cool case on your iPhone."

The phone looks and feels outstanding and performs great. I'm glad I went 5c this round.
 
People are writing to the heavens about the ASAP and Chip, get the phone cannot prove its abilities. The fingerprint sensor is experimental technology. You don't have to use the fingerprint sensor it's a nice gimmick, but nothing beats old-fashioned passcode and that's the truth.

Sure, whatever help you sleep at night. :rolleyes:

And then 5c owners wonder why other people question their poor judgement.
 
After several months with the yellow 5c, people continue to ask me if I have "the new iPhone" and "how does the fingerprint sensor work" while saying "your phone looks really cool" or "you have a cool case on your iPhone."

The phone looks and feels outstanding and performs great. I'm glad I went 5c this round.
You made the right choice. The 5c is notable because, it's excellently designed. No one can take that away.
 
So what. That fingerprint sensor is just another one of those shoehorned technologies that people don't really need.

No one can press your hand to your phone to unlock it if you have the good old fashioned pass code.

And it also does not save time either.
Wow, you see how ignorant this sounds right? You really have no idea what you're talking about. And again, I have nothing to defend because I don't have a 5c nor a 5s so I'm just observing your viewpoint. And it's very narrow.
 
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Wow, you see how ignorant this sounds right?

If people needed it, then Apple would've never released the iPhone 5c without one. Oh, and don't you think people would store really important information on their new iPad Airs?

It's exclusive to the 5s because, like I said, it's experimental technology.

I have the 5S, it has the fingerprint sensor, I like it. With the fingerprint sensor, people can touch your finger to your phone while you're sleeping and unlock it, they can't do that with the regular passcode. I'm guessing that's probably why Apple makes you put in your password after a restart.

And again, I have nothing to defend because I don't have a 5c nor a 5s so I'm just observing your viewpoint. And it's very narrow.

I work as an Account Manager and so can tell you that the fingerprint sensor is not meant to replace your password. You also don't want to make it so ubiquitous that you never have to put in your password because then people, (mostly older people and children) will forget them. We're all susceptible.

But I digress.
 
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If people needed it, then Apple would've never released the iPhone 5c without one.

Again, you see how ignorant this sounds right? When they release the 6 and 6c with one, then is it still experimental technology? They released the 5c without one because it's CHEAPER!!! What about this do you not understand? You can say 64 bit is also experimental technology, that's why they didn't release it on a 5c. Of course, this wouldn't be true. The reason the 5c doesn't have these features is because the 5c is last year's technology. Period.

One last note, your definition of experimental is wrong. If it was experimental, Apple would be debating on whether to continue using it or not and it might not be on the iPhone 6. This is not experimental, it's just first generation.
 
Again, you see how ignorant this sounds right? When they release the 6 and 6c with one, then is it still experimental technology? They released the 5c without one because it's CHEAPER!!! What about this do you not understand? You can say 64 bit is also experimental technology, that's why they didn't release it on a 5c. Of course, this wouldn't be true. The reason the 5c doesn't have these features is because the 5c is last year's technology. Period.

Well, January is right around the corner. In a couple more days both the 5S and the 5C will be last year's technology, as they were both released in 2013, for real.

And it's amazing how fickle people are about the 5C they can't decide if it's cheap or expensive. It's priced just right. The 5S is only about $100 better, if that.

And I would say that it is experimental in the fact that we don't know if the fingerprint sensor will be on the next phone or not. They didn't bring it to the iPad Air you would think they would at least do that.
 
Well, January is right around the corner. In a couple more days both the 5S and the 5C will be last year's technology, as they were both released in 2013, for real.

No, they were released in September 2013. They won't be last year's technology until they're a year old. :confused:

You have some interesting ways of viewing the world around you, I'll tell you that much.
 
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