Well now I feel this validates all my b*tching about the keyboard. They knew it wasn't a good keyboard, loud as hell, unsatisfying to use, prone to malfunction. Many of us stuck with a piss poor design, thanks Apple.
2 USB-c ports.
Yes, you can dongle your way out of that limitation.
The cheaper “pro” has 2 ports, the Touchbar has 4. This is a smaller amount than its brother. This is a limitation.
In reality, you really need only one dongle (with a custom selection of ports geared towards your specific use case).
Then at your desk, use one usb c port for a monitor dock and another for the external GPU. Seems this is really what Apple’s vision of modularity entails. You have a thin and light laptop for productivity on the move outside, yet still be able to turn it into a desktop replacement at home with the right accessories.
Why is Apple refusing to concede its mistake with the removing of the Mag-Safe port? It is their own invention, and literally the most convenient feature on an expensive portable.
Could anyone tell me if I can upgrade the RAM and/or SDD of a 15inch macbook pro AFTER being purchased? like, in an official Apple way (?)
If the non-official (user based) upgrade is possible I would like to know too.
Anybody? Please = )
Why is Apple refusing to concede its mistake with the removing of the Mag-Safe port? It is their own invention, and literally the most convenient feature on an expensive portable.
So the whole excuse of not being able to do more than 16GB when the 2016 MBP came out due to battery issues was simply solved by adding 10% battery capacity? What a load of bs.
This update is making PCs look better and better to replace my 2013 15 inch MBP. The Touch Bar is simply something I do not want.
Why is Apple refusing to concede its mistake with the removing of the Mag-Safe port? It is their own invention, and literally the most convenient feature on an expensive portable.
they again released annoyingly limited overpriced laptop with nothing else than a regular specs bump and people shoud be screaming in joy? They screwed the great laptop in 2016 and it is not getting any better. They are even ashamed to call it new which is totally understandable.It's funny how a lot of individuals are complaining about the newly released MBP... guess the complaining will never stop - just like their debts.
Whether you accept it or not, while Mag-Safe was the best implementation of its kind … it only did one thing.
Word for the day boys and girls is:It's not like those of us complaining about price lack the basic understanding of how a business works...
Not every complaint about price is some expectation that the precious Apple give us **** for free. It's pretty simple. The old 13" MBP used to start around $1300, now it starts at $1800 for a current model. The old 15" started at $2000 (mine cost that in 2015). An equivalent model costs $2400. There's been a huge markup on these models compared to Apple's own pricing of the past for what many view as less functionality and usability.
Kill it. Probably will have 1 new 13 inch MBA type update. Don’t want us to have option without touch bar.The 13" laptop still starts at $1,300, they just didn't update that one today (which I assume means they have other plans for the entry level 13" laptop).
Mistake? You see it as mistake, I don't and Apple obviously doesn't. So why would they "concede" anything?
The ability to charge from any USB outlet, even a 5W iPhone brick if you have the time (like overnight) or an external battery, and to plug the charging cable in on either side or any of the 4 ports, adds great convenience and flexibility that certainly outweighs the advantages of MagSafe.
If you had one of these devices, you'd know that the power cable slips out very easy if you pull on it (which already saved my MBP twice just like MagSafe would've done), while any other cable or dongle sits firmly of course.
And if that's not enough, there's even a MagSafe-like adapter for USB-C so you can still have "MagSafe" if you want to. The same adapter is available for Lightning, so with that you can even use the same charging cable for Mac and iOS devices.
Basically your complaining comes down to not knowing what you're talking about... Remember, Apple usually knows better than the customer, they do things for a reason.
Two things:
1. The lack of a refresh on the non-touchbar model of 13" MacBook Pro (when there's most definitely an 8th Gen Intel Core i series part that would otherwise be appropriate for it) is definitely telling. I would imagine that probably means that Apple is going to do something else to merge this machine and the current MacBook Air into something else that otherwise serves the same target market audience rather than continuing this model as the true successor to the MacBook Air as they had heavily implied they would during the October 2016 keynote where the body redesign was first unveiled.
Can I just say that USB-C only ports are STILL a huge pain in the arse even in 2018. That was and still is a terrible idea. Still waiting for the rest of the world to catch up Apple? Oh wait, no one wants to. They are all smarter, and gradually added it ALONG with the ports people actually use today.
This may come as a shock, but not all technology and efficiencies just exist off-the-shelf in order to match your expectations.
Does anyone remember when the 15” MacBook Pro started at $1400? What the hell happened...
It's not like people are complaining the new model isn't thin enough or that the battery life with the 32GB RAM version is too crappy. A lot of the complaints here people have been making all along...I think Apple's responded to those that it is willing to respond to (for example, the 32GB RAM issue) and ignored those it's decided it's moved past (magsafe, legacy ports, etc.).
I think the upgrade is a good compromise but would have been more competitive a few months ago (pricewise)...
Dell's XPS 15 offers what I assume is the same i9, with 32GB of RAM and a 1 TB SSD (better graphics and screen) at 2899 vs Apple at 3899. That's quite a premium...I tend to agree that Apple has better build quality, but that's questionable if the keyboard is not adequately addressed (hopefully, it is). Dell was pushing 3000 for that build when it came out, but it's gone down since. I imagine Apple will knock a couple of hundred off the price in several months when the refurbs are available. I know the Dell has a thermal issue, but I'm more confident I could address that via repasting and adding thermal pads per user guides online than the same issue, if it's present, in the MBP.
I think this refresh is clarifying...like I said above, it's made it crystal clear what Apple is willing to compromise on and not...I think it offers a better picture to some whether or not to stick in the Apple camp.
Personally, I'm going to wait a few months and see how the keyboard does in the wild...Maybe wait till next early next year and see what the next gen line of PC gaming laptops looks like...MSI, Dell, Gigabyte, and ASUS have all made some interesting machines at reasonable prices. Apple's refresh is right on the cusp for me...which I guess is good news, considering that I was pretty sure I was jumping ship based on what I presumed the new update to be.