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These naming schemes are making no sense if true....second gen iPhone X ?????. What does that even mean? Will we also get a second generation iPhone 8? (Of course not)
 
Interesting. I couldn’t love the swipes and new gestures of the iPhone X more. Invoking multi-tasking is so elegant and natural. Frustrates me to have to go back to the slower, less intuitive home button interface of my iPad Pro.

What exactly about iOS do you feel doesn’t work smoothly on iPhone X?

You don't need the home button to invoke multitaskinig or going home on iPad Pro. iPhone X gestures actions are not new, I think people find difficult that gestures are not consistent with other Apple devices .Apple had to implemented like that on iPhone X because form over function.
 
I'm actually glad to hear this because I strongly prefer a suped up iPhone 8s or 9 as the "mid range" option than last year's X.

Nothing about the X line inspires me to shell out >$1000. I actually want nothing to do with this model.
 
I’d venture to guess this has as much or more to do with OLED supply levels when you factor in a Plus Xs or X.1 model. Having three OLED iPhones with a lower price point on one at that would probably be tough for the supply chain to keep up with.
 
No problem with a full screen device with no bezels, I’ll just take one without a notch and the Touch-ID embedded in the screen rather than face-id.
Until cameras, sensors and speakers can be buried under a usable screen, the notch is a physical necessity. Would you rather lose the screen real estate and have bezel all the way across the top? I wouldn’t.

I think people are making way too big a deal about it the notch. Why? Who knows. But I’m guessing there is a lot of cross-over between “notchers” and the people who wanna de-canonize The Last Jedi.
 
EOL after 3/4 year? IMO this makes no sense because investments into production were huge.
My assumption:
- IPhone X stays as it is with additional colors like gold
- IPhone 9 with Face ID and LCD display
- IPhone X Plus with new SOC and this will be the focus on the new product line
 
If you are talking about iPhone X then:

A buttonless - is not buttonless.

full-screen interface - is not full screen or all screen, there are other phones that I would call full screen, but no the notch.

with FaceID is the future of all mobile tech - actually is becoming the past for some companies, the idea of facial recognition was implement years before iPhoneX (Kinect, Windows Hello, even mid-range Android phones had this idea implemented), iPhone X implementation called FaceID is very good, probably the best among mobile phones, however the idea is "old" for companies that are moving on to something else, something more convinient will appear soon, Apple will implement it later and some people will say:

"Those who cling to the home button and TouchID AND FACEID will be the next generation of floppy disk lovers and DVD drive die-hards."
Being overly literal and counting the side buttons just so you could toss out some pointless wordplay, rather than embracing the meaning of what’s actually being discussed (large physical home buttons on the front or back vs. no physical home button) is why it will be impossible to have a reasonable discussion with you.
 
I'm really confused by people saying they don't like their iPhone X. They're certainly entitled to that opinion, but they keep saying they hate it and offer no reason as to why. Going as far as saying it's a scam seems especially ridiculous.

I'm genuinely curious because I'm in love with mine and consider it to be the best iPhone to date by far.

I had a ten for a few days and then went back to my 7plus just because of:

I love to have a home button, will never buy an Iphone anymore when they will remove it from all new ones.
I love to have a fingerprint sensor instead of the smiley cheese camera tiny tool
I love to have a large screen to watch movies
I hate the notch
Specially I hate it since watching movies is just not nice and when you scale down, the screen is muzch smaller
I hate the round corners from the X (why did they not just let a small border with integrated notch???)
 
Until cameras, sensors and speakers can be buried under a usable screen, the notch is a physical necessity. Would you rather lose the screen real estate and have bezel all the way across the top? I wouldn’t.

I think people are making way too big a deal about it the notch. Why? Who knows. But I’m guessing there is a lot of cross-over between “notchers” and the people who wanna de-canonize The Last Jedi.

I was mentioning in another thread earlier, it's those on a tech forum that are complaining about the notch. I can tell you for those do I know that have the iPhone X, Have never even commented or hinted towards the Notch being an intrusion at all. You just have those with extreme disapproval for the notch on a tech forum because it doesn't fit their narrative of what Apple should design for them. The Notch is a non issue, I have no issue with it and most of us are not engineers that understands the design concept behind a notch anyways. That's why Apple has some of the best engineers in the world designing the iPhone, not random complainers on a tech forum.
 
History will not be kind to people who mock, misunderstand, or reject the iPhone X. A buttonless, full-screen interface with FaceID is the future of all mobile tech. Those who cling to the home button and TouchID will be the next generation of floppy disk lovers and DVD drive die-hards.

You just made assumptions. Did you even ask me why I don’t like the iPhone X? Why did you waste my time reading nonsense.
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If anything I think the X sold better than they thought. As John Gruber pointed out on Daring Fireball, the X is positioned to be a lesser-selling premium phone with new, premium tech that’s not necessarily physically available across 200 million new phones. It is supposed to allow Apple to have a niche model that allows them to leverage leading edge tech to stay competitive with lower-selling Android models that steal a lot of headlines with their advanced tech features that the supply chain simply couldn’t provide for the iPhone’s massive numbers. Without a more niche model like the X, the iPhone would be doomed to only use tech that is 2-5 years old because of the demands on the supply chain.

My guess is the fact that the X sold as well as the 8 was a bit of a surprise to them, and that if the new iPhone Xs models in late 2018 begin to actually outsell the new 6.1” iPhone 9 they will of course be happy with the revenue, but will unfortunately be in the same conundrum they were in before, where the gigantic quantities of their top selling phones prevent them from including bleeding edge tech that lesser manufacturers will ironically be able to insert in their phones.

It seems all your responses to my posts are assumptions. Please don’t reply unless you know not think. Thank you.
 
Just don't make me have to get a bigger phone to have the best features.

#1 reason why I didn't buy iPhone X. Feel like there's a large cohort of customers who would appreciate smaller devices with great specs but Apple doesn't seem to agree. Instead we got the X that is heavier, thicker, and larger than the 7 was. My sweet spot right now is the 7, which is lighter and thinner than the 8 but still has 256GB that the SE does not have. Hoping this year they satisfy people like myself with a device that isn't bigger than the 7 but has great tech
 
I think Apple should sell the X at a lower price come September. Still could have good sales. Anyways, if the item is discontinued, there could be private sellers listing them on eBay brand new for like $600-$700, who knows? I see eBay people sell in bulk with brand new warranties from time to time. I saw the 8+ on sale for like $749 or so at one point, which is better than buying SIM free from Apple directly because no tax and a discounted price.

If Apple discontinues the X, then they better have something available as an entry level flagship model or some people are calling it a 'mid-ranger' by Apple standards. The X's form factor is a must with this new LCD model KGI is discussing.
 
In other news, Honda will discontinue 2017 Civic when 2018 Civic is released.

But that's not how it works at Apple is it?.... If it was then they wouldn't still be selling the iPhone SE which was a 2016 model... or the iPhone 6S which was a 2015 model or the iPhone 7 also a 2016 model. So your example is not really a valid one.
 
Hmm well this basically means 1000 set price for the standard iPhone, the model that will have the same features as the a galaxy series which will cost half the price! And then we’ll have the X Plus no doubt starting from 1200 or 1300..

I’ll just get an X on sale when the retailers are clearing out stock. If Apple ditch it.

Apple under Cook and co sure have become incredibly greedy..
 
You don't need the home button to invoke multitaskinig or going home on iPad Pro. iPhone X gestures actions are not new, I think people find difficult that gestures are not consistent with other Apple devices .Apple had to implemented like that on iPhone X because form over function.
Yes, you do need the home button to go home on the iPad Pro. And to open the device or verify purchases. Which is clumsy and feels old.

You also need to use the home button to invoke multi/tasking on iPhone 8’s and all older models, which now feels clunky to me and millions of others who bought iPhone X’s and embraced the new interface, rather than resisting it.

The fact that you can now invoke multi-tasking on an iPad in iOS 11 using a swipe up gesture is evidence that Apple is moving all devices toward a home-button-free future, and further proves my point that home buttons are for suckers ;)

Yes, the gestures are inconsistent with the old way of doing things. They are new. That’s the whole damn point. If all new things had to be consistent with old things, there would never be any new things.
 
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No explanations are needed to be given to all who hate iPhone X. iPhone X is the best iPhone in the iPhone history up to date. That’s it. Many cannot get it due to many reasons, including not having strong purchasing power or not being able to afford it. Jealousy usually triggers the hatred. That is what is happening.

Disgusting comment.

If one can afford a £700 phone but not £1000 phone? What a great logic. I am literally laughing out loud at your silly post. Stop making assumptions.
 
This would make sense given that it seems they’re moving away from numbers on models and letting it become more like iPad, MacBook or iMac. iPhone X (Late 2018).
 
Until cameras, sensors and speakers can be buried under a usable screen, the notch is a physical necessity. Would you rather lose the screen real estate and have bezel all the way across the top? I wouldn’t.

I think people are making way too big a deal about it the notch. Why? Who knows. But I’m guessing there is a lot of cross-over between “notchers” and the people who wanna de-canonize The Last Jedi.

Actually that tech is somewhat available.

Not sure if you've seen the coverage, but Vivo released a phone with synaptics fingerprint scanner underneath the screen and I think Samsung have just got a patent for front facing camera/sensor underneath the screen.
 
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