I don't think that will ever happen or at least not any time soon.
Apple emphasized this is the iPhone TEN. The numbering scheme is alive in order to encourage annual upgrades.
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KGI: Apple to Discontinue iPhone X Rather Than Sell at Lower Price When Second-Generation Model Launches
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I don't think that will ever happen or at least not any time soon.
Apple emphasized this is the iPhone TEN. The numbering scheme is alive in order to encourage annual upgrades.
While I don’t doubt that jealousy is playing a role in the hate being directed at Apple and the iPhone X, it is to some extent overpriced. Anyone who denies that is just being foolish. Apple knows that a lower priced X would just be seen by many as a much better value than a X successor that basically looks the same with only internal upgrades that don’t make much of a difference. iPhone Xs/10s sales would probably be lower than current X sales which are already much lower than greedy Tim & company were expecting. This is just strategic repositioning by Apple to prevent further erosion. Expect more strategic moves by Apple to address this to come. Possibilities include lowering the X prices before September, removing the notch sooner than expected, more reasonable pricing for future iPhones, etc.
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You know, I love that too with my iPhoneX - I drop it into its wireless charger while I listening over bluetooth ... and what is revolutionary? ... I am not stuck sitting beside an AC outlet or worrying about wires while doing so.
You nailed it: it doesn’t fit their narrative. People become invested in the story they make up in their heads, rather than the reality of the world as it exists. And so they lash out.
So glad Apple doesn’t do focus groups with groups of random complainers on tech forums.
It's unlikely Tim Cook is going anywhere. Besides who would they get to replace him except another lousy CEO. There probably aren't that many good ones out there. I hope you're not expecting another Steve Jobs to replace Tim Cook. That's not gonna happen. I think Apple is messed up much deeper than just Tim Cook.
How does such a big company keep getting it so wrong?! Just look at what products are successful and make evolutionary revisions. Why all this junk like touch bars, and notch phones?!
Good move getting rid of the X though, that's just one big fail that's best forgotten about.
Good move getting rid of the X though, that's just one big fail that's best forgotten about.
Amazingly Apple continues to drop the ball like they are Samsung. The awful notch iPhone X has been a disaster since launch. Fragmentation is the next issue they will experience with the power management debacle.
What makes it a fail? I haven't seen any actual sales numbers. There has been a lot of guessing going on. I think we'd have to wait for the quarterly financial report to determine that iPhone X sales were poor.
Actually, one of the advantages that I have seen with the notch is that I can quickly tell which way is up with the phone. With a bezel-less screen and no physical button, it is much more difficult to tell which way the phone is oriented.
Depends on the market. $699 USD can still get you a phone w/ many of the modern iPhone amenities (processor, TrueTone display, quick charging, wireless charging, IP67 water resistance, etc). If you want the best of the best, $1000 seems to be that sweet spot. Meanwhile Samsung could undercut Apple with its aggressive promos and still struggle with Apple. Some people pay for the software and logo rather than go for the most cost effective solution since the solution may not be the ideal solution.
I dunno, while I do understand the use of numbers and encouraging upgrades, I do think they're going to move away from it. I can't see where they're going to go with it. iPhone 11, 12, 13? Or are they going to be roman numerals? The naming honestly starts to sound a bit stupid like that.
This is just my preference, but I'd love to see a cleaner lineup:
iPhone X
iPhone
iPhone SE
And maybe a Plus variation for the X and iPhone. There's enough there to spread and hit many price points.
I can't wait to see their financials Feb 1st. In Q4 of 2017 only 20% of US iPhone sales were of the iPhone X, that's pretty dismal if you ask me.
The numbering system is not just alive to encourage upgrades, the numbering scheme exists to degrade the older models to demonstrate the hierarchy of new iPhones being introduced. It's more of a scale aApple uses from oldest to newest. (Now more than ever given the expanded iPhone line up).
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
Then I could have back all that info that was previously visible with a quick glance, without pulling down the notifications.
Well we already know sales numbers are much lower than expected as they've lowered production sharply. Look at sold items on eBay - lots of people getting rid of the X's and the prices they're fetching are a big saving on new which is unusual for a recently released product.
If they'd released a phone in the 8/8S chassis with a bigger screen (say up to 5" and 6" or something) along with the usual CPU/memory updates then they'd sell like hot cakes.
My goodness, aren’t we touchy? Lighten up. I think you might be reading things into my responses that weren’t there.
As far as you not liking the iPhone X, what crazy assumptions did I make? Is there something other than the notch, the lack of a home button or lack of TouchID that you don’t like? Are you not a fan of the fantastic screen size-to-footprint ratio? Do you not like the awesome camera or blazing speed? Seriously, what are the mysteries of your discontent that I’m missing? I’m genuinely curious.
And my statement didn’t say you weren’t entitled to your own opinion. Of course you are. I was just postulating that all this resistance to the newness of the iPhone X may someday appear to be the same kind of pearl clutching we’ve seen when Apple has made big changes before. Time will of course tell, but I’d put money on my theory winning out.
Regarding your post about iPhone X sales and prices, please explain how you believe my response to was an assumption. What exactly did I assume? The reality is that I actually “liked” your post and then replied, thoughtfully, that I believed the reality of the X sales situation might, ironically, be different than your proposed hypothetical.
If you are threatened or offended by thoughtful, well-reasoned replies based on your posts, I can’t help you.
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Honda will not longer manufacture 2017 Accords when the 2018 is released. Apple will no longer manufacture iPhone X when the next generation is released. What is the difference?
Do you really believe that because dealers still have inventory of older models of cars that manufacturers continue to produce them into the next model year?
oth, the iPhone X is not going to be abandoned - Apple will still support it regardless just like they still support 6Ses, but the core technology will be based on the advancements in the iPhone X.
Apple will discontinue the first-generation iPhone X when the second-generation model launches later this year, rather than bump the device down its smartphone lineup for lower than $999, according to KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who clarified his earlier prediction with a follow-up research note today.
Kuo said that Apple keeping the current iPhone X in its smartphone lineup for a reduced price, such as $899, would likely cannibalize sales of the mid-range 6.1-inch iPhone with Face ID and a LCD display that he expects to launch in the second half of 2018 for between $650 and $750 in the United States.
An excerpt from Kuo's research note obtained by MacRumors on Monday:If accurate, Apple's smartphone lineup later in 2018 would consist of the second-generation 5.8-inch iPhone X, which will likely remain $999, a larger 6.5-inch version dubbed iPhone X Plus, and the mid-range 6.1-inch iPhone. Below that would likely be iPhone 8, iPhone 7, and iPhone SE models.
Here's how Apple's new iPhone lineup could look:
o iPhone SE: $349
o iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus: $449 and $569
o iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus: $549 and $669
o 6.1-inch iPhone with Face ID: $649 or $749
o 5.8-inch second-generation iPhone X: $999
o 6.5-inch second-generation iPhone X Plus: $1,099
Article Link: KGI: Apple to Discontinue iPhone X Rather Than Sell at Lower Price When Second-Generation Model Launches
So happy about this. This is why there are different pricing tiers. Glad they are not going to give in. If you want it bad enough you will pay for it. Not apples produce if you don’t like the price.
I like how they assume it is a purchasing power situation. Maybe some people want to spend their $ on more important things like investing.
The idea of spending an extra 300 euros or GBPs might not sit right. Phones, although used so frequently, are a depreciating purchase. The moment you open the box, the value drops. You can take care of a device and have it in pristine condition a year later and the value decreases a lot. If I spent $1000 on the X, I would make sure to use it until it is no longer usable (2-3 years, hardware gives out and it cannot be repaired at a reasonable rate).
Have you looked very closely at the iPhone X? Do you realize that it is the size of the iPhone 8 with a screen the size of a Plus?
Apple has done a poor job of pointing this out - I have shown it to numerous people and they are always surprised to see that the Plus sized screen fits into a normal sized chassis.
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I gave up "my ability of easily plugging in headphones and power" by getting a phone that I don't have to plug in at all.
Perhaps it was a tad bit harsh, but that is all. You’re making yet another assumption, which is quite ironic if you ask me...
Glad you feel that way. For me all these phones just stink for use without a case. They are all horribly designed to look pretty and not actual use... form over function is the smart phone way.
Give me a thicker phone, plastic sides that grip, etc. These pretty phones are just waiting to fall out of people's hands and break (and always do)
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Depends on the person. To me the Plus vs X isn't a HUGE price difference, now versus the 8 the X at $300 more reaches the "a significant cost difference."
In other news, Honda will no longer sell the previous year's model alongside the current model as it has done for the last ten years.
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You do realise the that 2018 iPhone X, iPhone X+ and iPhone '9+' will still have the notch?