KGI: Apple to Launch 6.5-Inch 'iPhone X Plus' and Lower-Priced 6.1-Inch Full-Screen LCD Model Next Year

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Apple will launch a trio of new iPhone models in 2018, including 5.8-inch and 6.5-inch models with OLED displays and a 6.1-inch model with an LCD display, according to respected KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

Kuo believes all three models will be equipped with a full-screen notched design and TrueDepth camera system like the iPhone X.

Kuo expects the 5.8-inch model to have 458 pixels per inch, suggesting the second-generation iPhone X's display will likely continue to have a resolution of 1,125×2,436. He said the 6.5-inch model will have roughly 480 to 500 PPI, while the 6.1-inch model is estimated to have between 320 and 330 PPI.

In his latest research note, obtained by MacRumors, Kuo said the 6.1-inch model will have a lower-resolution LCD display and target the low-end and mid-range markets with an estimated $649 to $749 starting price in the United States.His research note didn't outline any pricing estimates for the next 5.8-inch iPhone X, which currently starts at $999, or the all-new 6.5-inch model.

If accurate, next year's new iPhone lineup would consist of the second-gen iPhone X with the same size screen, a larger 6.5-inch version that we're tentatively calling the iPhone X Plus, and a mid-range 6.1-inch LCD model that adopts an iPhone X form factor and features but with a cheaper price point.

Kuo is upbeat on the shipments momentum of all three new iPhone models, and expects them to launch without any delays in 2018, given Apple's supply chain will be well experienced with iPhone X production by next year.

While he doesn't have an absolutely perfect track record, Kuo often relays accurate information from his sources within Apple's supply chain. Ahead of the iPhone X, he accurately detailed its 5.8-inch display, glass and stainless steel design, lack of Touch ID, 3D sensing, and several other features.

We've also already heard a few rumors about a 6.46-inch iPhone launching next year, so iPhone X Plus rumor season is well underway.

Article Link: KGI: Apple to Launch 6.5-Inch 'iPhone X Plus' and Lower-Priced 6.1-Inch Full-Screen LCD Model Next Year

This rumour makes no sense at all.
Why would the entry level phone be bigger than the X?
Why put an iPhone 4 era PPI on a 6.1 inch phone?
Why offering a phone directly competing with the previous year 8 and 8Plus?
There will be no 6.1 inch LCD/TFT phone.

We will certainly see a second generation X and X Plus next year, the entry levels phones will be this year X, plus the 8 Plus and 8.

 

[ghost187]

I hope the 6.5” iPhone doesn’t have 500 ppi screen. What a huge waste of battery life it would be. Just stretch the same 5.8” resolution and the ppi would still be over 400 which is already an overkill.

 

[apolloa]

I believe you can but it’s incredibly difficult, you can’t remove the pixels like an OLED screen and I doubt it’s cheap to do either.

 

[roeiz]

Its clear
iPhone 5.8” 899$
iPhone 6.5” 999$
iPhone 6.1” 699$

you wish

 

[Mc0]

LCD can’t possibly be as close to the bezel as OLED, right?
Not sure about round corners (maybe just masking?).

I read somewhere that they would use Full Active LCD from Japan Display. The display will have lesser bezel than OLED. But who knows, it is too early to tell...

 

[JPack]

Something like the notch wouldn't be possible with current LCD tech.
The corners on the other hand would be.
Taking away from the outer end is fine, taking away pixels from the inside would kill off the rest of the pixels in the same line.

Sure it is.

I’m not sure why this myth gets perpetuated. Look up the Audi virtual cockpit in current models. It uses a TFT LCD becuase of ambient temperature concerns. And has an even bigger notch than iPhone X.

 

[nviz22]

Well, what would be the supposed resolution on the Plus sized X? 1440p? Considering the iPhone X has a 1125p display with Dolby Vision and HDR10, that's good enough for me.

4.7" of usable space isn't bad.

 

[teknikal90]

would have bought the LCD full screen iphone if it was available this year.
still shocked i spent US$999 for a phone!!!

 

[Mc0]

Interesting. I'd likely stick with the 5.8, unless there is a big disparity between features on both OLED models. Kinda tired of Apple doing this, but I get it considering it pushes some to the higher end.

Perhaps dual camera will be the differentiating factor. Just like what they did with the 8s/7s.

 

[JPack]

I don’t need to, it’s all on this website if you search.
KGI are not he God almighty of prediction experts people make out. And don’t forget they ‘advise’ on things with a view to making money on that ‘advice’.

Ok. So you don’t even bother backing up your claims with even one rebuttal.

Keep up the hand waving arguments.

 

[TallManNY]

Doubt it. I'm thinking folks missed the obvious. Apple will do one more of the old form factor and call it the iPhone 8s. It will be spec bump with a Touch ID button. But it will be more affordably priced. The X will get dropped in favor of a still expensive Xs. The $999 starting price just will not be viable for Apple to continue with good market share. So Apple needs to release a new phone every year at a more affordable price point. The iPhone 9 name is the opening to do this for two more years after this.

 

[ckhris1613]

now this would be a phone I would buy

 

[tgwaste]

would have bought the LCD full screen iphone if it was available this year.
still shocked i spent US$999 for a phone!!!

Well.. I spent $41,000 on my car and I use my phone 1000x more than I drive my car so the price doesn't really bother me that much. Ill be sticking with the 5.8 X though. Costs $1500 (phone, ac+, case). Thats going to be my stopping point,

 

[Macaholic868]

Glad I stuck with the 6S. The S models tend to be worth waiting for. They work out the hardware issues for the most part in the S release. Sure you don’t have the shiny new object first but I’ll take that over buying hardware that might have design issues.

 

[JPack]

Apple wants a LG-made OLED panel as much as Samsung wants a phone engineered by the Note 7 team.

Yet, Apple invested billions in LG. Maybe Tim Cook is wrong and you’re right.

Nah. You’re probably completely wrong.

Apple Investing Billions in LG for OLEDs

 

[saile]

We also want a mini version, we could call iPhone SE X, I like!


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[CedricT]

I'll be all over the 6.1" phone next year if the only difference between it and the AMOLED models is the screen. I've got a feeling something will be crippled in hardware though. Approximately $300 less than the iPhone X with a 0.3" bigger screen is a huge difference. My guess is we'll see a much slower processor, a lower quality camera module, and significantly less storage.

My bet is a previous gen A-chip.

 

[drewyboy]

it is, Apple is giving you the 6.1" LCD option

but seriously, I agree with you, Apple is giving a cheaper option, but who wants that old tech, then the new tech gets a price increase...gotta keep the stock rising

Right, but they're taking away the iPhone 8 and 8+, supposedly. Honestly, it seems like it's starting to become like car dealers where really the only new changes are superficial. At this point, the only thing that they continue to impress me with is their SoC.

 

[ghanwani]

Bye bye to the hopes of a small size SE?

my concern too when i saw this.

 

[skinned66]

Three models of X would certainly add new camera gimping options.

 

[gentleman00]

Thanks for asking. I don't claim to have the answers, but I have these suggestions.

Ultra low profile symmetrical top and bottom chins to house the sensors.
No asymmetry on the display, ever.
Keep the curved corners if necessary.

Alternatively, a complete break from the past would be to go extremely sharp edges front on with square corners, with curves that contain the sensors which fold over and under the top and bottom.

All I know is a notch does not work for iOS11, it doesn't work for developers, and most of all it doesn't work for customers. It's too much of a compromise. The notch design is effectively a bunch of dead pixels at the top of the screen. The status bar is effectively pointless, completely useless and really not intuitive.

On a related note, parts of these lines has me thinking.
https://www.behance.net/gallery/31458797/SVPER-phone-ID-UI-Smartphone-Concept

The selling point of iPhone X is Face ID. Where would you move those elements?

 

[HylianKnight]

I mean, we are in the business of rumors. That said, I expect this to be at least somewhat incorrect.

 

[drewyboy]

I’m sorry but do you really know people that did that? If so they need to put the kool aid down.

I’ve had regular size phones while my wife has has plus size phones. I bought the X and she just got the 8 Plus.

The iPhone X that I have now and the iPhone 7 do not take that drastically different photos. Or my wife’s phones vs mine.

These devices are all so great we are DEFINITELY at the point of diminishing returns. There is just NOT an astronomical difference in what any of them do from one another.

My point is this... stop obsessing over specs on a sheet and all these tech reviews that have to justify their jobs and look a real world differences.

If you adore the regular size get it! Don’t buy a phone you don’t like because of a .03 improvement in camera quality.

It's not that they upgrade every year. It's that when they decide to buy a new one, they feel pushed to the higher end because they see the dual lens system as large benefit. A higher fixed zoom, not digital, and ability to do portrait shots. The later isn't that big of a selling point for me because arguably the Pixel is able to do it just as well via software algorithm.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Sweet, a X made for adult sized hands.
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I get the 6.5" and 5.8", but why not make the LCD one smaller (maybe 5")? Make it more of a budget version, to replace the SE form factor. Guess that just makes too much sense.

Do you not think they research what people want? Most people don’t want a tiny screen anymore.

 

[CedricT]

This rumour makes no sense at all.
Why would the entry level phone be bigger than the X?
Why put an iPhone 4 era PPI on a 6.1 inch phone?
Why offering a phone directly competing with the previous year 8 and 8Plus?
There will be no 6.1 inch LCD/TFT phone.

We will certainly see a second generation X and X Plus next year, the entry levels phones will be this year X, plus the 8 Plus and 8.

The 6.1 inch phone will probably have the same innards as 8 and 8+, so the entry level tier will be all LCD at 4.7, 5.5, and 6.1-inch sizes. While the premium tier will be the 2nd gen X and X+.