KGI: Next Year's iPhone Models to Have Upgraded Intel and Qualcomm Modems Enabling Faster LTE Speeds

[Freida]

I just wanna cry when I see bigger and bigger phones. FFS, not everyone has huge arms and wants huge phone. Even the current X has crazy big screen. Give me size of 8 screen in smaller form and I'll be super happy. Let the rest have plus sizes etc.

Not everyone wants phablet ffs!

 

[jayducharme]

You mean the 5.8" phone? It's the same size as the 4.7" iPhone 8, which is already a small phone.

Not in my opinion. The X is bigger than the 8, and I think the 8 is too big. If they removed the forehead and chin from the 8, that IMO would be a perfect size.

 

[thadoggfather]

Intel AND Qualcomm for radios a third time? Wow

 

[A7ibaba]

Soo much rumours about next years model offering significant increase in performance and design. I decided to skip this gen !

 

[mrkkbb]

Right, the most interesting / curious thing about this article isn't the point about updated LTE, but the "forecast" of a 6.1", EtT, FaceID phone with LCD.



The current X, i.e., the 5.8" OLED model is a terrific size.

That will be my next phone upgrade from 6, so looking forward to it.

 

[geoff5093]

It may be the sweet spot for some users, including me.
I have an 8+ now, I'd like a phone wide as the 8+ but tall like X and although the OLED display is amazing I could live with an LCD since I really like true tone on my 8+.
If it comes at the usual price point as iPhone 8 it can be a good alternative to the premium X models.

I just don’t see how Apple can convince people lcd is better than oled or vise versa. Seems pointless to have two screen technologies in otherwise identical phones

 

[thadoggfather]

Soo much rumours about next years model offering significant increase in performance and design. I decided to skip this gen !

That’s literally always the case tho

People didn’t want 6ss cause 10th anniversary hype around the bend

They got it
And some prefer 6sss to wait for the 10th anniversary+1 (2nd gen)

Some think the third gen is a grand slam

I doubt gigabit LTE will come anywhere near that with congested networks any time soon

Plus dear lord, how fast of internet do you need for web browsing Facebook and Instagram?

Are you running a business’ server off
Your iPhone now or something?

 

[geoff5093]

Not in my opinion. The X is bigger than the 8, and I think the 8 is too big. If they removed the forehead and chin from the 8, that IMO would be a perfect size.

That’s what the X is, same size as the 8 but all display

 

[kdarling]

I just don’t see how Apple can convince people lcd is better than oled or vise versa. Seems pointless to have two screen technologies in otherwise identical phones

The LCD model will be cheaper. That alone makes it "better" for many people.

For others, say an Uber driver who uses their phone as a GPS and wants to avoid burn-in, LCD might also be attractive.

 

[smorrissey]

It these are gonna be next year iphones why must i spent my hard earn money on an iphone 8 now? Apparently they are gonna remove touch button from all their devices...better not...

 

[Mr. Mad Vibes]

Will be a big upgrade from my current 6splus

 

[Princejb134]

The 6.1" LCD model makes zero sense to have.


You mean the 5.8" phone? It's the same size as the 4.7" iPhone 8, which is already a small phone.

Small for you, perfect for me. I have pretty big hands but prefer smaller phones cause their more comfortable in my hands and pockets

 

[D.T.]

The LCD model will be cheaper. That alone makes it "better" for many people.

For others, say an Uber driver who uses their phone as a GPS and wants to avoid burn-in, LCD might also be attractive.

Yeah, thinking this through ...

If the larger OLED phone, the "X+", winds up being ~$300 more than the smaller X at $999 - and the current Plus option is $799, there might be a $1299 vs. $899 price difference (bumping the LCD model a $100 for the display and FID changes). Whatever the math, I'd assume a sub-$1K price point for the non-OLED, and at least a $300 difference.

Then any potential concerns over the tech itself doesn't have to be part of the marketing narrative (i.e., LCD is "lower entry cost", not OLED has burn in concerns )

 

[Rochy Bay]

Basically they are just going to use all the hardware on the Samsung galaxy S8. LOL.....snapdragons, dual SIM cards. You can tell how Apple in Cupertino is dominated by the asian culture copying everything already been made somewhere else.

Apple's next-generation iPhone models released in 2018 will feature Intel's XMM 7560 and Qualcomm's Snapdragon X20 modems, enabling faster LTE transmission speeds, according to KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

Image: KGI Securities​

Kuo highlighted that both new chips support 4x4 MIMO technology, compared to only 2x2 MIMO in the latest iPhone models, which leads him to believe LTE transmission speeds will increase significantly in 2018 iPhones.

In his latest research note, obtained by MacRumors, Kuo predicted Intel supply Apple with 70 to 80 percent or more of the baseband chips.Kuo also predicted that next year's iPhone models will support dual-SIM dual standby (DSDS), with support for LTE+LTE connections, which allows two SIM cards to be active simultaneously using only one set of chips.It's not entirely clear if the new iPhones would have a dual SIM card slot or if one of the SIM cards would be embedded into the device.

Article Link: KGI: Next Year's iPhone Models to Have Upgraded Intel and Qualcomm Modems Enabling Faster LTE Speeds

 

[fourthtunz]

They're all huge. Is it too much to ask for a normal HAND held sized phone?

What about the X ? Its smaller than the 8+.
I upgraded to the 8+ from the 6 and Im surprised at how little its huge size bothers me.
Yeah I end up using two hands more but its not as bad as I thought it would be.
That said, I think I may still upgrade to one of next years X models.
Damn that 6.5 model is gigantic ;(

 

[linkmaster02]

That’s what the X is, same size as the 8 but all display

That's not what the X is. The X's screen size is bigger than the 8, which causes problems trying to reach the top of the screen.

 

[tmiw]

Yeah, I'm thinking Apple's going to have one of the SIMs be eSIM--if they actually release a "dual SIM" phone. There's no way they're going to add even a half mm in thickness for any reason.

 

[Ramchi]

Basically they are just going to use all the hardware on the Samsung galaxy S8. LOL.....snapdragons, dual SIM cards. You can tell how Apple in Cupertino is dominated by the asian culture copying everything already been made somewhere else.

What it has to do with Asian culture? Number of law suits between American companies clearly gives the impression that no one is clean!

 

[prospervic]

Sarcasm because of planned obsolescence.. And people expect Apple NOT to improve with next year's iPhones? You know the charade and pattern already. Will look the same but internal improvements. Tick-tock.

Stage 1: Buy new iPhone
Stage 2: Say you love it and call it best ever
Stage 3: Boredom
Stage 4: Sell it, trade-in, or give it away
Stage 5: Buy latest iPhone

^ Repeat every step to fulfill that iPhone fix you have.

We live in the ADHD era anyway. People may ask you about your newest iPhone and completely forget about it a minute later. We forget like over 90% of what we will see visually within the next minute. Most of us won't even remember what we had for breakfast by time someone may ask us by dinner time. Unless you have super memory like Marilu Henner. I wouldn't want that. I want to be like Jim Carrey in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Ignorance is bliss.

It takes two years to get any significant innovation in iPhones, that’s why I mainly bought the S models.
Apple doesn’t really expect regular people to buy a new phone every year, that’s for the tech-obsessed and newness-addicted, for whom the iPhone Upgrade Program was created.

 

[D.T.]

Damn that 6.5 model is gigantic ;(

Interestingly, I've done the math to scale the point widths, resolutions and rough physical dimensions using the Plus (414 @ 3x) width and X ratios as a starting point.

Results? A roughly 6.5" display, at the same A/R as the X, fits on a Plus chassis

 

[Scottsoapbox]

The 6.1" LCD model makes zero sense to have.

If they actually add a 6.5" and 6.1" screen to all the others it's basically a screw you to developers.

Remember when an advantage of iOS was devs only had a few sizes to consider instead of many on the Android side.
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Interestingly, I've done the math to scale the point widths, resolutions and rough physical dimensions using the Plus (414 @ 3x) width and X ratios as a starting point.

Results? A roughly 6.5" display, at the same A/R as the X, fits on a Plus chassis

That's because the 6.5" prediction simply did those calculations in the opposite direction.

 

[D.T.]

That's because the 6.5" prediction simply did those calculations in the opposite direction.

Of course! Now we know the 375 point target for the X, we can _assume_ a 414 for the X+, use a 3x scale, calculate the height (based on A/R), and even guestimate the physical size (which funny enough, it about the same as the existing Plus models ...)

 

[Swampthing]

Whether it is next year's iPhone or the following, I do believe Apple will work to get rid of the infamous notch. So I think those mockups are off. Why? Apple's always been about hiding the real technology. Making it seem "magic." And Ive has always said a smooth uninterrupted pane on glass on a phone is "incredibly beautiful."

It's not important whether you like the notch or not, it's more important to Apple that technology be invisible to the casual eye. Right now the notch glares right at you as a necessary piece for the tech to work so they'll get rid of it soon.

 

[creediddy]

The 6.5" will be my phone next year. That is why I am okay returning my X for now. People that bought their phones on device payment will need to come up with the $499 or $575 to pay off their device as a trade in or continue to start a new agreement by trading the device back in with no trade in. My 7 Plus will still be worth about $500 next year.

 

[predation]

I got two phones....


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