KGI: Next Year's iPhone Models to Have Upgraded Intel and Qualcomm Modems Enabling Faster LTE Speeds

[MhaelK]

Don’t worry a small number of people are going to be disappointed when they see Apple make a smaller version of the iPhone X next year and not a larger one. I keep telling people on the forums here the iPhone X is a direct replacement for the plus sized models. The plus iPhones screen is marginally bigger and has no lasting benifit. The user base for a phone with a screen size much larger than the iPhone X is so small, it’s not worth it for Apple to make it.

I’ll take that bet against you

IPX is basically an exteded IP8 - somewhat similar to the IP4 and IP5. If you are using your phone for comsumption, there is a big difference in the screen estate on the IPhone X and 8+. Not saying that a smaller phone ala SE mark 2 couldn’t find its way to the marked - I hope so, SE is the perfect phone for running and sports. But it would be crazy for apple to ditch the plus size market.

Also if you look at the design language of the OS and the IP and IP+ You Will see that apple has spent time differentiating and perfecting ios to suit the larger screen of the IP+ - i.e. rows and colums in apps. The OS in IPX is taken from the IP and not the IP+. All signs that IPX is considered the new IP formfactor.

Of course, nobody but apple knows. But I know which side of this bet my money is.

 

[6803390]

More notches. Great. Now, I may have to wait years before they announce a bezel free phone and call it revolutionary or the best ever lol

 

[makitango]

Gotta say, these phones look top notch!

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

whats the point of faster LTE if data cap is always limited?

To get to the cap FASTER, so key partners can ding us for more money sooner.

 

[B4U]

They're all huge. Is it too much to ask for a normal HAND held sized phone?

[serious]Still waiting for the SE/5s sized full screen iPhone.[/serious]
[jokingly]Apple would definitely not call it SE-X edition, right?[/jokingly]

 

[ValO]

Not in my opinion. The X is bigger than the 8, and I think the 8 is too big. If they removed the forehead and chin from the 8, that IMO would be a perfect size.

With the 4.7 iphones, everyone said :give me a 4 inch with the latest specs, dual cams, OIS, etc. Now people are saying give a smaller 4.7 inch iphone in a smaller footprint, etc, and so it continues.....

But people dreaming about apple releasing a new 16:10/16:9 aspect ratio and with an oled.

Sorry , won’ t happen.
They all will be the new aspect ratio, it won’ t have a headphone jack, etc.

The only exception of points above could be a new SE, but it will probably get at least a 4.7 inch but in the longer and new aspect ratio, to fit in about the same footprint as the current se. Or a 5.28 inch screen, as there were some rumors about that screen size.
It won’ t get dual cams, but perhaps ois, since it is the entry level iphone.
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More notches. Great. Now, I may have to wait years before they announce a bezel free phone and call it revolutionary or the best ever lol

No, you’ ll probably have a short wait for a bezeless phone, apple just paved the way for samsung to release a s9 next year, that won’ t get advanced faceid or facetracking, but just a regular frontcamera and speaker built in a very small ridge between housing and display, you’ ll hardly see it, and it will have a fingerprint scanner on the back, no lower bezels, curved edge screen, etc.

And after that a note 8, with the same front camera and speaker setup, edgeless design with an inscreen fingerprint reader.

It is the samsung way.
People are complaining about the notch, samsung gets rid of the notch. And they defend the fact that it has just a fingerprint reader, by saying that it just works, showing people holding iphone x’ es in the most complicated stances to unlock their phones, etc.

Everyone expects samsung to copy apple with advanced faceid with their next release. I predict they won’ t , and focus on an anti-notch campagne, and draw attention awat from the fact that it won’ t include a headphone jack also.

 

[ke-iron]

guess you werent around for the whole year where 4 or so guys kept saying "THERE WILL BE NO 5.5 iphone"

No, because there was a want for bigger screens and we got it. Apple acknowledged that people wanted bigger screens but not a bigger phone. The made a bigger phone with a bigger screen then and now they made a bigger screen in a slightly bigger phone. This is what the majority wants. Not some unwieldy object in their hands.
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I'm waiting for the integrated, display based TouchID rumor. FaceID is a step back IMO.
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The reason why you have to "keep telling people" is because what you're saying doesn't make any sense and no one is listening (rightfully so)

One thing is for sure, you aren't basing this "theory" on sales figures, which begs the question... What are you basing it on? Your own opinion?

This is based on what people want, bigger screen not bigger phones. We have the bigger screen now in a phone that’s not much bigger than an iPhone 8. How much people do you know that has a plus and would upgrade to something of the same size or bigger just to have a bigger screen?

 

[Technarchy]

The 6.1" LCD model makes zero sense to have.


You mean the 5.8" phone? It's the same size as the 4.7" iPhone 8, which is already a small phone.

Apple needs a cost stepping stone product to justify massive price hikes for the X-Plus.

 

[patent10021]

Maybe they can spend some of the quadrillion$ on getting rid of the botch notch.

 

[ke-iron]

I’ll take that bet against you

IPX is basically an exteded IP8 - somewhat similar to the IP4 and IP5. If you are using your phone for comsumption, there is a big difference in the screen estate on the IPhone X and 8+. Not saying that a smaller phone ala SE mark 2 couldn’t find its way to the marked - I hope so, SE is the perfect phone for running and sports. But it would be crazy for apple to ditch the plus size market.

Also if you look at the design language of the OS and the IP and IP+ You Will see that apple has spent time differentiating and perfecting ios to suit the larger screen of the IP+ - i.e. rows and colums in apps. The OS in IPX is taken from the IP and not the IP+. All signs that IPX is considered the new IP formfactor.

Of course, nobody but apple knows. But I know which side of this bet my money is.

I guess we’ll be betting differently.

I have the iPhone X and I’ve had all previous plus iPhones. I feel this is a direct replacement for the plus phones, even if it is a tad bit thinner. When used in landscape mode, videos and other content is still much enjoyable as before. I honestly don’t find anything to complain about and if you don’t continuously think about it like the notch it disappears and all that is left is bliss.

However this phone is bigger than the standard iPhone, both phone and screen size, so it is not a replacement for the standard iPhone. The size of the iPhone X screen is next to the plus iPhone screen by a narrow margin. Even the standard iPhone was still considered too big for many people. Apple iPhone line up will not be comprised of big and bigger “all screen iPhones” and no small version.

 

[jouster]

BREAKING NEWS: The next model will have improvements from the current model. Maybe.

But that isn't what it says. The predictions are very specific.

 

[rjohnstone]

The current Qualcomm modem (X16) in the 8 and X already support 256 QAM and 4x4 MIMO.
Apple chose to disable those capabilities as the current Intel modem doesn't support it.
Basically they had to hobble it to maintain performance parity among the different modles.

 

[krizalidzero]

If there's any truth to this, they won't look like the pics.
The next iPhones will and must have smaller bezels (the current iPhone 10 still has the same huge bezels, basically, just without the chin and forehead).

Plus, I believe LCD cannot be shaped (like AMOLED can, hence the notch and rounded edges). So if Apple releases a good 6" "bezel-less" phone, that'd be good, and also very possible with a decent device size.

 

[2IS]

No, because there was a want for bigger screens and we got it. Apple acknowledged that people wanted bigger screens but not a bigger phone. The made a bigger phone with a bigger screen then and now they made a bigger screen in a slightly bigger phone. This is what the majority wants. Not some unwieldy object in their hands.
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This is based on what people want, bigger screen not bigger phones. We have the bigger screen now in a phone that’s not much bigger than an iPhone 8. How much people do you know that has a plus and would upgrade to something of the same size or bigger just to have a bigger screen?

Except the screen area is significantly smaller than the 8 Plus, 7 Plus, 6S Plus, 6 Plus screens, beyond that, the aspect ratio combined with the notch makes things like watching videos a worse experience than even the non plus models

 

[Wanted797]

They're all huge. Is it too much to ask for a normal HAND held sized phone?

iPhone mini coming in Fall 2019

 

[redgreenski]

Why is the notch still there? Im going to buy two iPhones 8 Plus next year in August and hopefully ride out this stupid notch fever.

 

[ke-iron]

Except the screen area is significantly smaller than the 8 Plus, 7 Plus, 6S Plus, 6 Plus screens, beyond that, the aspect ratio combined with the notch makes things like watching videos a worse experience than even the non plus models

See that right there is inaccurate. The screen on the iPhone X is not significantly smaller than the plus sized iPhones. The plus iPhones screen size is exactly 2.6% larger as calculated by reputable source, phone arena.

Aside from the math that proves the screen size is not a significant difference. I have had all plus iPhones in the past and I can say from first hand experience watching videos in landscape is not a “worse experience”. Even if the iPhone X was a bit wider you would still have black bars at the top and bottom because of the length of the phone, and videos with different aspect ratio.

 

[Rique]

I'm waiting for the integrated, display based TouchID rumor. FaceID is a step back IMO.

How is it that FaceID is a step back? Have you used it?

 

[2IS]

See that right there is inaccurate. The screen on the iPhone X is not significantly smaller than the plus sized iPhones. The plus iPhones screen size is exactly 2.6% larger as calculated by reputable source, phone arena.

Aside from the math that proves the screen size is not a significant difference. I have had all plus iPhones in the past and I can say from first hand experience watching videos in landscape is not a “worse experience”. Even if the iPhone X was a bit wider you would still have black bars at the top and bottom because of the length of the phone, and videos with different aspect ratio.

I own both phones as well, if you believe the difference is 2.6% then good on you. Continue believing what agrees with your pre-conceived notions and biases. It absolutely is a worse experience to watch videos. To say it isn't only proves you're lying to yourself and everyone else. I can tell you exactly why it's a worse experience. The video is narrower and you get black bars on the left and right (not top and bottom like you're suggesting). Please tell me how a narrower video with black bars on both sides is NOT a worse experience than full screen viewing, on a larger screen no less? I'd love to hear what BS you'll come up with explaining that.​

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How is it that FaceID is a step back? Have you used it?

I own an iPhone X, so yes, I've tried it, maybe about 100 times a day. If i'm holding the phone directly in front of me its fine. If I'm out to lunch the phone typically sits flat on the table and unlocking it with FaceID is a pain compared to touch ID since I have to over right over it vs touching the home button.

 

[ke-iron]

I own both phones as well, if you believe the difference is 2.6% then good on you. Continue believing what agrees with your pre-conceived notions and biases. It absolutely is a worse experience to watch videos. To say it isn't only proves you're lying to yourself and everyone else. I can tell you exactly why it's a worse experience. The video is narrower and you get black bars on the left and right (not top and bottom like you're suggesting). Please tell me how a narrower video with black bars on both sides is NOT a worse experience than full screen viewing, on a larger screen no less? I'd love to hear what BS you'll come up with explaining that.​

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I own an iPhone X, so yes, I've tried it, maybe about 100 times a day. If i'm holding the phone directly in front of me its fine. If I'm out to lunch the phone typically sits flat on the table and unlocking it with FaceID is a pain compared to touch ID since I have to over right over it vs touching the home button.

When I said top and bottom I was referring to the top and bottom of the phone. I will be sure to be more specific next time, I thought you would have understood. The video is slightly smaller when viewed landscape, it isn’t s big deal. It doesn’t bother me and most people who own the phone.

Having a slightly smaller screen for video does not qualifies in making it a worse experience. That’s like me saying the huge size of the note 8 is a worse experience because it’s too big. It isn’t a worse experience, I just don’t like phones that big. Do not forget the quality of the video is many times better, the sound is the most detailed in any iPhone.

The 2.6% difference in screen size is fact proven like I said, so don’t sound so salty as if I made that number up. I told you the reputable source phone arena has calculated it and concluded the difference in screen size is 2.6%. Like it or not, it is what it is. It is people like you who like to ignore facts and claim others are lying. You’d be one of those people who would say the note 8 or pixel phones have a better quality display than the iPhone X. You look at data from professionals and ignore it, then insert your own opinion or some other opinion by a non professional and say it is fact.

You complain about having your phone on a table and being able to unlock it with your finger before, and now you can’t? Unlocking Face ID is a pain? Really? It’s not a big deal. Millions of people have had to adjust. We just deal with it and adjust our behavior accordingly. You continue to blow things out of proportion.

I get that you don’t like the dimensions of the iPhone X, but the fact is the difference in screen size is so minimal and videos don’t look bad on it. Most people would agree. If you can’t deal with it get a phone you like and move on.

 

[2IS]

When I said top and bottom I was referring to the top and bottom of the phone. I will be sure to be more specific next time, I thought you would have understood. The video is slightly smaller when viewed landscape, it isn’t s big deal. It doesn’t bother me and most people who own the phone.

Having a slightly smaller screen for video qualifies in making it a worse experience. That’s like me saying the huge size of the note 8 is a worse experience because it’s too big. Do not forget the quality of the video is many times better, the sound is the most detailed in any iPhone.

The 2.6% difference in screen size is fact proven like I said, so don’t sound so salty as if I made that number up. I told you the reputable source phone arena has calculated it and concluded the difference in screen size is 2.6%. Like it or not, it is what it is. It is people like you who like to ignore facts and claim others are lying. You’d be one of those people who would say the note 8 or pixel phones have a better quality display than the iPhone X. You look at data from professionals and ignore it, then insert your own opinion or some other opinion by a non professional and say it is fact.

I get that you don’t like the dimensions of the iPhone X, but the fact is the difference in screen size is so minimal and videos don’t look bad on it. Most people would agree. If you can’t deal with it get a phone you like and move on.

Why would you talk about black bars on top and bottom in portrait mode when watching videos? When you mount your TV to your wall, is it in portrait mode? Why would you watch video on the phone in portrait? Most normal people are going to watch a video in landscape, on the iPhone X that video is significantly smaller than it is on any Plus sized phone before it. Not only is the screen size itself smaller, but the aspect ratio makes the video even smaller still. That equates to a worse experience and your last post proved just as much, you just tired your best to downplay the degraded experience.

I like the phone just fine, but I'm not brainwashed enough to not acknowledge it's shortcomings and where it can be improved. You wouldn't understand.

 

[mashinhead]

It may be the sweet spot for some users, including me.
I have an 8+ now, I'd like a phone wide as the 8+ but tall like X and although the OLED display is amazing I could live with an LCD since I really like true tone on my 8+.
If it comes at the usual price point as iPhone 8 it can be a good alternative to the premium X models.

I agree with this. When I look at this chart it looks like the 6.1" will be the sweet spot. The 6.5" I think will actually be too big I think. And I am a plus user. I think that size, all screen will be unusable for most. I don't have big hands, but. I can use a plus 1 handed no problem. But the screen doesn't go all the way to the edge of the phone.

 

[ke-iron]

Why would you talk about black bars on top and bottom in portrait mode when watching videos? When you mount your TV to your wall, is it in portrait mode? Why would you watch video on the phone in portrait? Most normal people are going to watch a video in landscape, on the iPhone X that video is significantly smaller than it is on any Plus sized phone before it. Not only is the screen size itself smaller, but the aspect ratio makes the video even smaller still. That equates to a worse experience and your last post proved just as much, you just tired your best to downplay the degraded experience.

I like the phone just fine, but I'm not brainwashed enough to not acknowledge it's shortcomings and where it can be improved. You wouldn't understand.

Omg dude. I was talking about watching videos in landscape, I mostly use my phone in portrait orientation. Hence the reason I said top and bottom black bars I was actually referring to the sides because of holding landscape, it was an accident. You still didn’t understand is unbelievable.

“I can say from first hand experience watching videos in landscape is not a “worse experience”. Even if the iPhone X was a bit wider you would still have black bars at the top and bottom because of the length of the phone, and videos with different aspect ratio.”

“When I said top and bottom I was referring to the top and bottom of the phone. I will be sure to be more specific next time, I thought you would have understood.”

You’re not reading to understand. You’re just reading to reply quickly. I’ve also edited my last post and added some more to it. If you paid attention you wouldn’t be posting the nonsense you are now about watching videos and TVs in portrait mode. Pay attention.

 

[2IS]

You complain about having your phone on a table and being able to unlock it with your finger before, and now you can’t? Unlocking Face ID is a pain? Really? It’s not a big deal. Millions of people have had to adjust. We just deal with it and adjust our behavior accordingly. You continue to blow things out of proportion.

Heck, even Apple recognizes the benefit of TouchID which is why they tried to integrate it into the display. And by the way, the screen area is >10% difference, the only time you get the numbers you're quoting is if you include the completely useless area where the notch is. And that's before we even calculate how much area you're losing when watching a video due to it's aspect ratio.

 

[ke-iron]

You're a bigger sheep than I thought. You acknowledge all the short falls with screen size and TouchID and your solution is to take it up the ass and adjust instead of talking about it. You can continue bending over Apple and providing a virtual reach around. I'll continue voicing my displeasure, I get that it bothers you, I just don't care.

Heck, even Apple recognizes the benefit of TouchID which is why they tried to integrate it into the display. And by the way, the screen area is >10% difference, the only time you get the numbers you're quoting is if you include the completely useless area where the notch is. And that's before we even calculate how much area you're losing when watching a video due to it's aspect ratio.

I didn’t acknowledged any “short falls” because I never considered these changes to negatively impact the user experience. So I said simply adjust and move on. If i thought of it to be a nuisance, I would’ve said so.

You continue to spread more lies by saying Apple tried to integrate Touch ID into the display when there is absolutely no proof that they did. They themselves said they never attempted to do so. But here you are saying the opposite.

Just because you think the area around the notch is useless doesn’t mean it is. In fact it is useful because it displays information and has user interaction that can be invoked by swiping down. Whether or not you like the area around the notch, it is part of the screen, and the total screen size difference between the iPhone X and any of the plus models is a tiny 2.6%

Keep watching data and continuously give your own opinion as if it were facts.

Where did you get a 10% difference in screen size from?

There are words to describe you, but I need not say it. You know who and what you are.