KGI Shares Latest on 6.1-Inch iPhone, Next iPhone X and iPhone X Plus to Have 4GB of RAM and Two-Cell Batteries

[NapoleonIV]

This report seems rather confused to me. I think that it is unlikely that there will be an iPhone X plus released this year. Rather what these rumours allude to is that the current iPhone 8 and 8+ will be upgraded with "edgeless" displays and Face ID. The iPhone X shall only see a spec upgrade, unless apple decided to use the front facing camera for Face ID. Finally, the iPhone SE may or may not be updated.

From this perspective, the idea that Apple would release a new device of any kind which does not include 3D Touch is ludicrous, especially if we are taking about this year’s versions of the iPhone line.

 

[BootsWalking]

Long press in ios trigger the ability to erase or move the icons

Actions they could move into a long-press popup menu if they decide to use it in place of 3D Touch.

 

[Bacillus]

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/01/26/is-apple-throwing-in-the-towel-on-3d-touch.aspx

We will see a new Apple Pencil with 3D Touch capabilities for the larger phone and iPad X

Apple haven't even used the multiple pressure sensitivity (e.g. in a drawing a thicker line) as of yet.
(which is incongruent/incompatible with Apple Pencil has that functionality in the Pencil itself)

 

[newellj]

What if I want dual lense but not a bigger screen? What if I have no need for a overpriced OLED screen but still would like to have 3D Touch?

Ah those times when the only difference was the screen size

Right now if you want the dual lens camera you have to buy the Plus (bigger screen) - unless you buy the X. This is not a change.
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I actually think it makes sense. If the LCD 6.1 retains a lower price point, it could eliminate 3D Touch for price point reasons for lower tier pricing. While the more expensive 5.8/6.5 OLED model retains 3D Touch.

I agree. I wonder how many people use 3D Touch. (I wonder whether Apple's diagnostics collection gives them any information on use of 3D Touch?)

 

[44267547]

We will see a new Apple Pencil with 3D Touch capabilities for the larger phone and iPad X

We will? So are you saying the next iPad is going to include 3D Touch?

 

[newellj]

My iPhone X is the first phone with 3D Touch and I forget it’s even there.

So I guess it’s safe to say it’s somethig I can live without.

See, that's my point. I very seldom use it and probably get tripped up by it almost as much as I use it properly.

 

[zombierunner]

Are all phones going to be in 18:9 aspect ratio because in that case the screen sizes are not reflective of true size.

 

[newellj]

The battery improvements could be big. Not only are they planning on putting in an 8% larger battery, but the new CPU and iOS power management improvements could increase the battery life significanty (10%+?).

The 4GB of RAM is welcome, but what improvements are being made to iOS to warrant it? I hope they’re substantial; Siri, for instance, is falling way behind the competition.

It may be that the real usefulness of 4GB of RAM is legs for the future. I think that's an important reason that the iPhone 6 really underperforms today, even with a fresh battery. 1GB of RAM is very limiting.

 

[Roadstar]

I'd really like to see an iPhone that can double as a computer. Hook it up to a monitor, wireless keyboard and mouse. You have one device. Oh that'd be lovely.

This is exactly what Samsung does with their DeX station. However, I'm not holding my breath on Apple implementing a similar thing.

 

[newellj]

Bottom line:
If I was Apple, I wouldn't be releasing in 2018 iOS devices with A-cpu still tainted by these privacy threats (SEP xerub hack + Meltdown & Spectre) and which cannot be efficiently eliminated via software-only patches.
By radically refreshing the A-cpu in its entire 2018 iOS line, Apple would be renewing and boosting its marketing message of "THE privacy-wise" company.
This is also the reason, i.m.o., why Apple may leave no 2017 iPhone model still for sale by the end of 2018.

I hadn't seen that point made before. That makes a lot of sense, if it actually pans out that way.

 

[Wiesenlooser]

im not going back to LCD

 

[newellj]

You guys need to give up on this idea that the notch is going away. It's the new design language of the entire iPhone lineup, not some rash decision they made in a design meeting just because they couldn't come up with anything better.

The last time they changed the design, they stuck with it for four years, so I'd prepare for the notch to exist until at least September 2021. I bet y'alls iPhone 8s will be feeling pretty ancient by then.

I don't know whether it's a design choice or not. It seems like an enforced hardware choice. I guess the design choice is: notch or bezel at the top - so in that sense, yes. But it's not going to disappear under the display any time soon.

 

[EssModelsRule]

I want a smaller X with premium camera features and can spend X money on it to replace my 6s. Such a device would still give me 4.7”+ of screen size while being physically smaller. I don’t want a budget X that’s as big or bigger than the real thing. Holding out hope the SE2 delivers at least some of what I want.

 

[Glockworkorange]

Lack of 3D Touch? These "analysts" are taking a shot in the dark. There is no way Apple does this.

no 3D Touch on a less costly product? Sure they would---look at the SE.

I have yet to see any app or function that absolutely requires 3D Touch to work well.

 

[44267547]

You can still buy a 6S with 3D Touch though.

I was mainly saying that 3D Touch might be eliminated from the 6.1 LCD model just to retain the lower price point. I use 3D Touch regularly, but it seems there are many that don't utilize or forget that this technology exists. It has its core functionality in the iPhone, but it seems like a lot of third party applications do not support 3D Touch. Apple doesn't seem to place any emphasis on 3D Touch like they used to when the iPhone 6s launched. Similarly to how Live photos really hasn't been mentioned much.

 

[Glockworkorange]

Again with the lame notch design? How many more iterations of the iPhone will it take before I will be able to purchase new device? Still not buying one as long as they’re “settling” on aesthetics with that ridiculous notch.
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Apple is discontinuing 3D Touch. As it was an under-used, under-developed, and mostly unwanted feature, like most things they release these days.

3D Touch is great to move the cursor around.

 

[1369281]

Two design bits that will always be looked back upon as sloppy engineering:

1. Notch
2. Protruding camera lens

 

[chipb]

2 words....too big....

 

[44267547]

I agree. I wonder how many people use 3D Touch. (I wonder whether Apple's diagnostics collection gives them any information on use of 3D Touch?)

Good question. I use 3D Touch all the time and I find it useful for peak and Pop features for glancing at messages, emails and is just much easier to navigate certain parts of the application by using 3D Touch versus opening the whole application to find one thing you were looking for.

Example: If I want to open up a Weather application, I can use 3D Touch and just select a certain feature I want to view versus having to navigate through daily forecast, hourly, ten-day, ect.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I was mainly saying that 3D Touch might be eliminated from the 6.1 LCD model just to retain the lower price point. I use 3D Touch regularly, but it seems there are many that don't utilize or forget that this technology exists. It has its core functionality in the iPhone, but it seems like a lot of third party applications do not support 3D Touch.

I use it constantly and every time I open my iPhone. Not having it is not an option and seeing as I am not going to buy a £1k smartphone, I guess my attention needs to go towards the iPhone 8 for my next upgrade. That really does put the 6.1” iPhone at a severe disadvantage.

 

[44267547]

I use it constantly and every time I open my iPhone. Not having it is not an option and seeing as I am not going to buy a £1k smartphone, I guess my attention needs to go towards the iPhone 8 for my next upgrade. That really does put the 6.1” iPhone at a severe disadvantage.

I agree. 3D Touch has its advantages for me, I feel most seem to discredit 3D Touch by saying that they don't use it. But for those who do appreciate it, thst could be something that might prohibit them otherwise from wanting to upgrade to the 6.1 LCD and if the iPhone X did not interest them either for other reasons.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I agree. 3D Touch has its advantages for me, I feel most seem to discredit 3D Touch by saying that they don't use it. But for those who do appreciate it, thst could be something that might prohibit them otherwise from wanting to upgrade to the 6.1 LCD and if the iPhone X did not interest them either for other reasons.

I just think it’s sad that new iPhones used to be something we looked forward to and appreciate for their innovation and direction. Lately for me it’s compromises and trade offs. I just wish Android was up to scratch for what I need and I didn’t have to rely on iOS. I’d be gone by now.

The lack of 3D Touch makes the decision for me so at least it eliminates one iPhone from the equation. If this rumour is true of course.

 

[Niklas_nick]

I'd be surprised if they drop a feature that has been standard since iPhone 6S, especially with an all-screen design without a physical home button. 3D Touch and Taptic engine give the iPhone X UI/UE another dimension and make the product more wholesome and interactive, compensating for the reduction of buttons.

You could probably live without it, but iPads are much more dull in comparison and lack handy functions with just a long touch. They also lack pleasant gimmicks like the 3D touch camera and flashlight buttons on the iPhone X lock screen, possibly one of my favourite features.

 

[unobtainium]

Ok...or you could get used to these things in the future.

If Apple could figure out how to eliminate text ghosting when you scroll on OLED screens, and if there were sufficient eye safety studies for VCSEL biometrics, I would consider jumping aboard.

 

[ValO]

Very true, and we'll all do just that.

HOWEVER, it's still worth pointing out that change-for-the-sake-of-change has always been problematic. Getting rid of the fingerprint reader (a feature that took a long time to win over the masses) in favor of a different biometric does not seem to many consumers a reasonable tradeoff. It's totally fair to voice our opinions. From my perspective, having both for a couple of iterations would have helped those masses make the transition.

I wasn’ t critizing anyone. Next year the iphone 8 will be cheaper and will still have more than enough power.