I think everybody has different appreciations for different things. I don't think Apple is a company in the position where they can please everybody the same. My my viewpoint differs from yours and I find no other smart phone better than the iPhone in today's market. And there are things that I don't like about the iPhone, but I'm willing to accept that in terms of how iOS meets my expectations, the security, and customer support. I can look past Apples imperfections and see other things in value Over just Apple having to 'Innovate' with every iPhone.
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KGI Shares Latest on 6.1-Inch iPhone, Next iPhone X and iPhone X Plus to Have 4GB of RAM and Two-Cell Batteries
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I think everybody has different appreciations for different things. I don't think Apple is a company in the position where they can please everybody the same. My my viewpoint differs from yours and I find no other smart phone better than the iPhone in today's market. And there are things that I don't like about the iPhone, but I'm willing to accept that in terms of how iOS meets my expectations, the security, and customer support. I can look past Apples imperfections and see other things in value Over just Apple having to 'Innovate' with every iPhone.
Apple is probably working on the A13, A14, and so on CPUs and it could be too late to make major re-designs even on those. It takes longer than 6-12 months to design a CPU....
The X is supposed to stay at 19.5:9, along with the new X Plus. It’s the 6.1” that is rumored at 18:9.
Interestingly, the size of 16:9 video would be the same on the two new rumored phones.
Here’s the diagonals of 16:9 video on the current and rumored phones (when non-zoomed, so with new aspect ratios, black bars on left and right):
4.7”—4.7” (16:9) 6/7/8
5.5”—5.5” (16:9) 6 Plus/7 Plus/8 Plus
4.96”–5.8” (19.5:9) iPhone X
5.56”–6.1” (18:9) 2018 LCD
5.56”–6.5” (19.5:9) X Plus
Seriously, what the **** is up with the top notch ****? Is it REALLY important to get that .00002 pixels of extra space wrapped around the sensors instead of having a perfectly normal rectangular display like every other phone in creation? ****ing Apple designers have lost their ****ing minds.
I am confident that the notch was a design sacrifice and mark my words, in a few years they will get rid of it and acknowledgement of this sacrifice will be admitted only then.
As iPhones are rapidly increasing in price I am judging them more harshly because i want to be satisfied with my purchase. The more expensive anything is, the higher the expectation. If they are removing key features and still charging a premium then I can’t look past it and will just seek an older iPhone with less compromises and more sensibly priced.
At $700-800, it’s about the same price as the current 8 and 8 Plus. It will have TrueDepth/FaceID though, and a bigger display.
If the rumor is true, it’s saying Apple thinks people will trade 3D Touch and the dual camera for smaller bezels, a larger display and TrueDepth/FaceID. Seems like a decent compromise but I think it will be priced closer to the 8 Plus ($800) than the 8 ($700) due to BOM cost.
KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who often relays information gathered from sources within Apple's supply chain in Asia, today shared a trio of new research notes that outline both new and existing predictions about the new iPhone X, iPhone X Plus, and lower-priced 6.1-inch iPhone expected later this year.
MacRumors obtained a copy of each research note, and we've rounded up the key points. More details are available in our 2018 iPhones roundup.
All-New 6.1-inch iPhone with LCD
New:o Taiwanese manufacturers Pegatron, Foxconn, and Wistron will be the key assemblers of the 6.1-inch iPhone, with 60 percent, 30 percent, and 10 percent allocation of EMS respectively
o Japan Display will supply around 70 percent of LCD panels for the 6.1-inch iPhone. Rumors suggest Apple will use Japan Display's six-inch Full Active LCDs that only require ultra-slim 0.5mm bezels on all four sides
Reiterated:o Nearly full screen design with no home button and notch for TrueDepth sensors
o 3D sensing for Face ID and Animoji
o Rectangular-shaped, one-cell battery with 2,850-2,950 mAh, up to 8.5 percent larger than current iPhone X. The increased capacity will be the result of a smaller logic board given manufacturing advancements
o Lower price point: starting at between $700 and $800 in the United States
The rumored 6.1-inch iPhone is shaping up to be a lower-priced iPhone X with some design compromises, which Kuo previously said will include an aluminum frame, a lack of 3D Touch, a single rather than dual lens rear camera, and 3GB of RAM, which will be less memory than other new 2018 iPhones have.
Next-Generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus
According to Kuo, the second-generation iPhone X and a larger 6.5-inch version we're calling iPhone X Plus will each have an increased 4GB of RAM. Unsurprisingly, given its larger physical size, the iPhone X Plus is also expected to have up to a 25 percent larger battery capacity of 3,300-3,400 mAh vs. iPhone X.
Kuo adds that Apple has settled on a two-cell, L-shaped design for the second-generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus battery, compared to a single-cell, L-shaped design that could have yielded up to 10 percent additional capacity.
By the sounds of it, the new iPhone X and iPhone X Plus, beyond the latter's larger screen size, won't be significant upgrades. Kuo doesn't expect improvements to be made to the TrueDepth camera system until 2019. Nevertheless, he expects the devices to sell well, especially the lower-priced 6.1-inch iPhone.
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That's your prerogative as a consumer, as you have ability to choose to spend your money on how you so please. And your factoring and judging the iPhone on an annual basis, but I judge the company as a whole (Services, support, security) and what compromises would I be sacrificing if I left for another smart phone platform. I know from my experience, Apple and their Products meets my expectations. As I mentioned before, not everything will be in tune to what Every consumer finds the best value for their money, but I generally don't have any complaints based off my own Experiences. But I don't expect anyone to Share my views either.
I know your previous post mention the word innovation. And I am not necessarily directing this at you, but the term is used all to loosely and I think there are those who truly use this word out of context when understanding the evolution of smart phones.
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Up to $800 for the economy entry point 6.1? Not learning yet are we, Apple?
You're assuming people will actually stay within the ecosystem for that long. I think that the majority of people who wanted an iPhone X already have one, and the rest are lukewarm at best to its questionable design cues.
If the next batch of iPhones is as disappointing as the current generation, then the odds of me staying with an iPhone of some sort are greatly diminished. After 8 years of exclusively using iPhones and 10 years of using iOS, there is a very high probability that my next phone will be made by Samsung.
Let me guess. You don’t use an iPhone X? Seriously everyone I know who has an iPhone X does not even notice the notch after 5 minutes. 3D Touch is very useful for google translate btw
It makes no sense where all the rest of lower priced iPhones, 7 and 8, all have 3D Touch.
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Apple has always aimed for at least 2 year cycle (or longer) upgraders, ie they would target those 7 or 6S users with these 2018 line.
Disagree. Are you factoring the costs of the other components as well on the newly rumored 6.1 iPhone? Because the iPhone 7/8 does not incorporate or include some of the components/technology that would be on the 6.1, and is why it might have a retain a lower price point with the elimination of 3D Touch. Unless you specifically know what it cost to implement 3D Touch as a component break down cost?
From a standpoint of component breakdown, you have to understand the cost all of the components, not just one. I don't think Apple wants the 6.1 LCD iPhone to compete too closely with the 5.8 iPhone X. There has to be a separation.
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No. Haptic feedback and vibration are still needed, and the way Apple does it is via the same motor that generated 3D Touch feedback. So it would seem to be a waste of what they have developed for years (since the 6S).
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The rumored price point of the rumored LCD model is $700, replacing the iPhone 8 as the 2018 regular flagship. Unless it becomes the new SE at $400, I don’t see why Apple would take out 3D Touch.
Apple know consumers would still buy its products at inflated prices.
MacBook Pro 2016 /17 are good examples of that. As is the X.
Considering how many people I’ve seen with the X (more often that I would’ve thought), yes, Apple has learned that they can get extra margin. And every businesses will take advantage of any possible increase in ASP. Heck, look at OnePlus. Their price is now $500, way higher than their initial entry at $300 back with OnePlus One.
For the rest of “us,” there’s always the upcoming “SE” to look forward to.
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There is higher probability of a new iPad mini pro than iPhone supporting the Pencil.
[doublepost=1517179987][/doublepost]The 4GB RAM is really the main draw for me, depending on the actual pricing.
However, I was hoping for a 2nd gen FaceID this year. If Apple is still using the same gen FaceID, I guess I’ll skip again and hold on to my 6S.
Here’s hoping for a surprising 2018 “SE.”
If these rumors are true, then I'm leaning toward only getting an iPhone 8 in the fall.
Reasons (from my perspective):
Reasons (from my perspective):
- A 6.1" screen could present too many usability compromises, especially with one hand. I use my iPhone 7 primarily for quick hits of information, not for consuming movies/TV. I prefer to use other devices for that.
- The X and likely its successor, which improve usability & portability, are still more phone than I need. To be honest, I think the X offerings are primarily about Apple's desire to increase the average handset selling price to $1000 than anything else. The 6.1" will exist primarily to drive consumers to the X, especially when Apple talks installment payments like car sales people do.