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I wonder where he gets his time stamps. I can say Samsung's Iris scanner gives it a infinite year lead over Apple especially since Apple will never use it. He really should not talk.

Did he call psychic reader Cleo???? RIP

It’s not even close to the same thing. Samsung’s iris scanner is another half assed attempt that gets fooled by something as simple as picture.
 
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Usability of Iris scanner is inferior to Face ID.
And you have used face ID??? Hmmm..
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It’s not even close to the same thing. Samsung’s iris scanner is another half assed attempt that gets fooled by something as simple as picture.

Works flawlessly for me.
 
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The Note 8 can scan the iris of it's users and use that for recognition...

What exactly does Samsung need to take from Face ID? Maybe Kuo is talking about exact copies of Face ID (facial scanning using IR) but iris scanning is a real thing that works great on the Note 8

Iris scanning is ok, but you have to look directly at phone at an acceptable angle. Also, there are several scary warnings about possible eye damage during setup. FaceID works at many more angles and is far more reliable and impossible to fool--if it works the way Apple claims.

There are several good features of the Note 8 that Samsung has over the iPhone X (screen quality, brightness and higher PPI, S Pen, etc) but facial recognition isn't one of them. I'm a Note 8 owner by the way. Depending upon the reviews of the iPhone X, I may switch.
 
true, if Apple was able to implement the sensor under the screen, FaceID doesn't exist. They'll scrap FaceID once they get it working.

False. Craig Federighi stated they experimented with Touch ID under the display as a Plan B option, but abandoned the project once Face ID was working as intended. The idea that Face ID was rushed due to Touch ID under the Display was not true. Touch ID is not coming back. Face ID is Apples future.

https://daringfireball.net/2017/09/iphone_x_event_thoughts_and_observations
 
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IMHO most won't even bother 'copying' FaceID. Samsung has a sure thing with its Iris scanning, most other Android manufacturers will likely go with developing TouchID that is embedded in the screen. FaceID is also very likely a stopgap for Apple until they figure out screen-embedded Touch ID as the others are.
Why do people still keep bringing this up? Even Apple said that Touch ID under the screen was investigated as a plan B Incase Face ID wouldn’t work. Face ID is undoubtedly the future.
 
IMHO most won't even bother 'copying' FaceID. Samsung has a sure thing with its Iris scanning, most other Android manufacturers will likely go with developing TouchID that is embedded in the screen. FaceID is also very likely a stopgap for Apple until they figure out screen-embedded Touch ID as the others are.

Sorry, but you're wrong. Forget about Touch ID and move on, Face ID is the future. It's not about embedding Touch ID under the screen, this can already be done. The problem Apple faces is trying to do that on top of the 3D Touch stack on the same display, something rivals don't have to contend with. So we may see rival displays with fingerprint recognition built-in, but it's easier for them to do with less complex displays.

There is no stop-gap when it comes to Face ID and Apple will not be abandoning it by including Touch ID in the display. Touch ID is on the way out and Face ID is here to stay and will likely replace Touch ID on all devices in the coming years. I don't know why people persist in moaning on about Touch ID coming in next years iPhone and Face ID being dropped, not going to happen.
 
Apple is setting the stage for the next decade of what people expect from smartphones.

Much like the original iPhone launch, it took android years to catch up and make truly competitive products.

Same with Touch ID.

No surprise it is happening again.

FaceID/Truedepth camera isn't even remotely close to anything near as revolutionary as the original iPhone though.
 
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Sorry, but you're wrong. Forget about Touch ID and move on, Face ID is the future. It's not about embedding Touch ID under the screen, this can already be done. The problem Apple faces is trying to do that on top of the 3D Touch stack on the same display, something rivals don't have to contend with. So we may see rival displays with fingerprint recognition built-in, but it's easier for them to do with less complex displays.

There is no stop-gap when it comes to Face ID and Apple will not be abandoning it by including Touch ID in the display. Touch ID is on the way out and Face ID is here to stay and will likely replace Touch ID on all devices in the coming years. I don't know why people persist in moaning on about Touch ID coming in next years iPhone and Face ID being dropped, not going to happen.

You state a lot of opinions, but I'd really like to hear some facts as to why Face ID is the future and Touch ID is on the way out?
 
Touch ID all over again. It took Apple many years and billions to develop this, but "development and manufacturing hurdles" are easier to overcome when you have a blueprint to copy. So 2 years sounds about right, though I'm sure we'll see rushed versions of face ID next year from various manufacturers.
 
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I don't think most people are going to get enthused about the facial recognition system. As long as they can quickly unlock their devices it isn't going to matter if it is through facial recognition, touch ID on the front, or even touch ID on the back.

Making 3D models using the camera would be nice in some applications, but more people would get use out of it on the back rather than the front. This will be especially true in augmented reality where people are using their phones as the viewing mechanism and need to see the external environment displayed on screen.

This is an extension of work done for the Kinect camera for the Xbox 360. By all accounts the Kinect has been a massive failure in implementation as people simply don't care for gesture based inputs. I don't see it being any different in a front-facing environment on the iPhone. Apple needs to come up with a use case scenario outside of Animojis in order for this to be a design defining feature. Rear-facing 3D camera = tremendous possibilities for CGI in home movies as well as scanning items into CAD systems without the need for expensive equipment. Front-facing 3D camera = meh.
 
Apple will never have most people’s “perfect phone.” They will, however, have one of the best phones.
 
In the interim I expect Hamstrung and Fandroid to do their best to copy with half-baked solutions. And their fans will fall for it...again.

Do you (and others) not realize you lose all credibility when you talk like that?

And FWIW, Samsung has nothing to really copy here. Will Apple's solution work better than Samsung's? Sure. But (at least for the next year) Samsung owners have multiple ways to unlock their S8/Note 8's. Owners of the iPhone X will only have two, and neither of them are as convenient as current options, which is what 99% of the general public cares about.
 
What exactly is the difference between TrueDepth camera and Intel RealSense, used in Windows 10?

So far, the biggest difference seems to be dimensions, the RealSense cameras are HUGE. 11cm width and 4mm depth!
 
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